Hah! I got you in here didn't I? It seems that one of our "valued members thinks that us seniors all have some sort of catch in our get-a-longs. What do the rest of you members think about these thoughts and views?
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AE:
I replield to this post, and I think it summed it up pretty well. But I left out that comment, as Im not a senior and let you seniors defend yourselves. I personally think the seniors are very helpful, and I feel that we should have a small amount of respect for them (at the Very LEAST) since they spent the time on the board to aquire said status.
my reply can be seen by referencing the same thread.
Guys,
I already said i don't consider myself a senior member. Real seniors are the ones that had enough time here to deserve the status. But i will defend seniors because they showed us to be very helpful and almost never give a wrong answer. They browse the forums to help any member out there without caring if it's a newbie or another senior.
So for the guy that said it... the "anal" thing is crap!!!
Bye,
DKRR
Hey Hey.......
I don't find anyone anal... well .. maybe not everyone is cool but most people are..
Anyways... I just tend to disagree with the whole "Seniors" thing. I suppose by that time.. you're posts prove you've been around long enough to know something.. but for the most part since those are based on number of posts, and not neccessarily knowledge.... I take those titles with a grain of salt.. The people with the large ammounts of anti-points who are also high up in posts are the people i tend to respect more.. as they are obviously helpful to acrue that many antipoints
The only people who find the seniors, or anyone esle anal are those that bring it upon themselves-In the short time I have been a member I have seen at least 3 posts try to con an answer and a few blatantly ask for something illegal OR someone gives info to a problem that can't possibly be correct-those people are given a hard time by the seniors or anyone else who catches the contradictions*myself I try to be meek around the crabby ones* lol
psh?!...ANAL?!!?!?!?
O_M_F_G!!!1! ...who's the mother****er who says we're all ****ing anal the mother****er's gonna die that son of a ****in' bitch whore ass pussy!111!!!1
ARG!!/11!!. I h4te all of j0!!! ****in anal...hah!...you mother****in' wish!
For who ever that said that, i will have you know that, it was seniors members, as: Aeallison, Tedob1, Allenb, Spyder32( Spyder32 wasn't a senior member when i first join, but he was helpful.) and many other that guided me through this site. If it wasn't for them i would be lost, and would had probably gotten banned liek many others did. I really appreciate the senior members, and hope to becoming a member one day. Thanks guys, and keep up the good work, because people like me actaully appreciate it. -Ebo
Titanmike looks at [WebCarnage] in awe and can only say Jaysus!!!!!!
Who ever says seniors are anal must first have his own piles removed
Thats it i think i am going home now
trembling in awe
Mike
I think that thread was just someone being antagonistic about something petty. nothing more.
Just like real life, I see newbies hand out great advice whereas I may see some senior act childish and offer little to next to nothing in the way of help.
You can't let the past justify the present.
so what the hell does that mean? simple.
I take advice from everyone on here at AO, lots of green dots or not, I treat good advice the same no matter the source. After all, I don't know how everyone got their greenies. Alliances?a good flaming of someone posting a dumb question? or being very helpful?...it's all the same to me when it comes to getting my questions answered. I just simply want good advice and/or information.
Point? I don't demand anything from seniors that I wouldn't demand from everyone.
This isn't Animal Farm (If you don't know the reference, I suggest reading the book)
I don't see senior members as "anal" at all. Has anyone everheard of constructive criticism? The people that bring it up DID bring it on themselves. The green dots don't really mean alot, other than the person has posted worthwhile stuff over a period of time. You are right ShaqDevil advice in most any form is great. I am a complete newbie myself so information from anyone is a godsend even if it is short or childish. We're all here to learn/teach why bicker over titles?
Exitrial
Hrm, I'm a new senior so does this apply to me? ;) Trust me man, I don't have any 'anal problems' or anything, and my position here is to help and learn. Nothing more, nothing less. Being that I'm a new Senior Member here, I'll definitely defend them and can say that most (if not all) of the active senior member's here have helped me one way or another. So, to the guy that said that, go piss off.
Well, I really don't think of any of the senior members here as anal. When I first joined, AO was very different (for one, there was more flaming) but one thing that hasn't changed is that the senior members continue to be helpful. I've been around for nearly 2 years now, I consider some of the guys here friends, and almost all of them happen to be seniors. I (kinda) think of myself as a senior too, considering how long I've been around. So whoever said that *bleeeeeeeeeeeeep* to you, you big fat ugly *bleeeeeeeeep*.
Cheers,
cgkanchi
how bout that! a guy ranting about threads and members not being up to his standards and then calling us anal. go figure!
Nosce te ipsum
Oh for god's sake, Y is it that all the Seniors get dumped on by the Other users when we do something they don't like, and then when we don't help them they start getting more pissed off......ugh...it's too early for this.....stay outa my way of get negged :D lol
- Noia
<waves his cane around>
Whah, back in mah day you whippersnappers would've had yer backsides paddled black 'n blue for disrespectin' yer elders...
Anality knows no borders.
This thing is not even worth to reply... damm I did.
I see many people talk about "new" and "old" senior members or "real" senior members and etc... since the ap's kind'a got out of control, AO perhaps needs other rankings? But on the other hand, why should that be necessary? Everyone knows who's been around here for long. It's always difficult to speak about value, contribution and stuff like that.
And speaking of the anal thing, since I'm a senior member this should be considered as some sort of a verbal attack? LOL.
Grow up. Like I said before, this isn't even worth a reply, but I did. That's what describes senior members: they are addicted to this forum. It's a gathering place. And I'm pretty sure most of us are willing to help anyone. At least anyone who's mature enough. This has completly nothing to do with age, it's about how you behave.
edit: corrected some vocabulary mistakes
What do you expect? I'm not a senior member yet, nevertheless I am a bit fed up with people asking questions that are either entirely stupid "How do I hack hotmail" have been asked a million times before "How do I get LILO off my MBR" or invite flame wars "What is the best Linux distro?"
So to be quite honest, I think they're quite reasonably under the circumstances.
Indeed, we are quite reasonably under the circumstances. ;)
thx Slarty to point that out.
I will let you know my opinion on this once/if i become a senior member :D
But i must admit that many seniors have helped me out in the past. And yes, there should be some respect for them too. For someone becoming a senior does not only mean having so many posts made. For someone to have so many posts and still be in AO (meaning that they have not been banned during so many posts) tells me that they know what they are talking about. Maybe some of you should pay alot more attention to what seniors have to say. I have not come across a senior yet that flames without reason, or posts dumb posts. (Although i have to say that i have seen a post or two where Tedob has flamed a newbie really badly :p )
Sorry if i have interfeered on a topic that i should not have (me not being even a member yet).
Cheers.
I personally have never had a problem with a senior member before, theyv always been helpful to me, if someone has a problem with a senior member its usually because they brought in on themselves, you dont become a senior member here without going threw a lot o posts without being banned, obviously if your a senior member you earned it and deserve to be called a senior member because its not easy at all, when iw as a newbie, i didnt ask many questions in threads because most of mine had to do with the site so i just PM a senior member (for example i didnt know how to read what people said in my journal, i asked a senior member and had a responce that said well im not sure but i know that so and so does know because they use there journal more, i asked them and got an answer, i didnt think that i needed a hole thread for something like this so i just PM a senior memer and got my answer) but in my experiance iv gotten along and i enjoy talking to all of them because they are kick ass people, and in my opinion again, they are senior members because others think so to, which is why there still here, if anything they deserve a pat on the back for being so helpful (im not kissin ass im just saying my opinion, and in my opinion they are all helpful nice people)
I have waited for quite a while so I could absorb the views of our few members who responded to this. This thread was not intended for just seniors, (a few people have thought so from what I gather ) nor was it intended for the old d00dz, ( I concider myself in that catagory ) but, was for anyone who wished to respond. From what I see, the general opinions of the contributors of this thread, and the poll, the Seniors are much more patient and forgiving of the nonsensical posts and non-security related threads than some members think---> majority rules.
As for my reasoning to this thread (mostly nonsensical and non-security related ) I believe this thread is where I graduated from just a member with a bunch of Antipoints to a REAL Senior member...(give your opinions in this thread if you have any :D)
I stumbled on the thread where I referenced the anal crack (brits will love this pun - LOL) and almost negged the offender and went on. I composed myself and even logged off for a while to ponder my exhistance. I stepped outside and had a seat on my porch and took a few breaths of some fine Ozarks Mountain air. I later logged back in and noticed that the thread that is in question was still on the main page and that its overall view was extremely positive ( I really expected it to have gone suicidal ) So... I opened it back up and to my further astonishment the offending user had a positive rating as well. So I started this thread as a research project you might see it as, because I really did not like the anal crack (:)) But as -DaRK-RaiDeR- had mentioned I really did not concider myself a Senior yet...I do now.
PS -- I never did neg the little @%&*$
- aeallison
I think the general consensus is that seniors are not anal.
Before I was a senior, I had plenty of help from both seniors and newbies alike.
This "rant" is purly in my opinion... if you don't like it... you know what you can do.
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I try to help out when I can and I'm only "anal" when people keep asking the same ?s that can be found simply by using the AO search feature, not to mention a good search eng. like google.
If it is a newbie, I'll try to get them on the right path with a PM and some friendly advise.
You know... read the FAQ, watch what you post, don't start any flame wars, etc.
Another thing I'm "anal" about is the friggin AP system. Who cares if you got positives or negatives. EVERYONE gets them both. It doesn't matter who you are. You should only care about your AP status if you are being close to banned. You are here to learn and help others, not reach a certain status. How can you learn anything if you are always bitching about APs, and after that, the only thing that you have learned... is people hate it when you bitch about APs.
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So now you know that I feel just like the other 85% of the people on this board/community.
Either play nice, or get lost.
I think that enema idea sounds kinda cool, just think about how much all the senior members avatars and moods would change.... :rolleyes:
On a more serious note, it seems that whenever I have asked senior members directly for help they have always been more than eager to either give me the answer or give me the needed guidance to find the answer. As far as them being superior? well i wouldnt say superior but they do deserve just respect and i think all the member of AO equally give great answers and help all of us out when in need. now what was I blabbing about...oh yeah do the enima thing then we can watch the boards light up with negs cause everyone will be really cranky :p
Thanks for everyones help senior and not, none of us know everything and thats what the point of this is, to share our wealth of knowledge.
Edit: New idea, the enema should be initiation to become a senior member
Unlike aeallison, I probably will never consider myself a Senior Member. It say's that under my name, but my amount's of contribution's to this website pale's in comparison to some of the REAL senior members who have been here for awhile and have contributed loads to this website. However, I can promise you this: I will continue to try to post to help and learn, nothing more or less. I will continue to help people that are desperately in need of it. I will try to help people from being banned, or newbies who make mistakes when they first get here. I will always try to further the spread of information and activity at AntiOnline. Those are only some of my goals, and I will achieve them.
You can be a "senior" member, like in being a contributive helpfull etc. member before you reached the 400 posts. The senior member "title" under your name just points out you're a post whore or you're just being arround here much. That way you can be a senior title member without really being a "senior" to the site and vice versa.
Personally I'm fine they way I am now. An addict. I was addicted to AO, but that's past tence now. I feel absolutely no need to even become a senior member. Maybe I'm worth the "senior" title (maybe not, you choose ;)), but I just don't reach the 400 post border. I don't feel any drift to post something here, altough I might have a few months ago. I reply to posts if I have really something special to say that others didn't say already and what other might not know. That way I will reach that 400, maybe in 2004. I will be a senior member, but maybe I'm past the period being "senior" as a contributing, wise, experienced AO member. Many new people come (and go) and those who saty will eventually all be seniors... eventually. That's about my view.
You're a "senior" in a way people look up or down to you. The titles mean nothing. That way people can't judge you're "senior" or not for everyone decides for himself wether to respect you or not. What can be the requirements to become a senior.
I have to say you don't get to be a senior for nothing here.You guys deserve that status and anyone who tell's you different can go and get stuffed.On this site you either do it right or get out, or get kicked out.If it wasn't for our seniors who guided us where would we be??????????
In that case, I'm a newbie to this site, because no one look's up to me ;) Your more deserving of the title and respect them I am, lol.Quote:
Originally posted here by neel
You can be a "senior" member, like in being a contributive helpfull etc. member before you reached the 400 posts. The senior member "title" under your name just points out you're a post whore or you're just being arround here much. That way you can be a senior title member without really being a "senior" to the site and vice versa.
Personally I'm fine they way I am now. An addict. I was addicted to AO, but that's past tence now. I feel absolutely no need to even become a senior member. Maybe I'm worth the "senior" title (maybe not, you choose ;)), but I just don't reach the 400 post border. I don't feel any drift to post something here, altough I might have a few months ago. I reply to posts if I have really something special to say that others didn't say already and what other might not know. That way I will reach that 400, maybe in 2004. I will be a senior member, but maybe I'm past the period being "senior" as a contributing, wise, experienced AO member. Many new people come (and go) and those who saty will eventually all be seniors... eventually. That's about my view.
You're a "senior" in a way people look up or down to you. The titles mean nothing. That way people can't judge you're "senior" or not for everyone decides for himself wether to respect you or not. What can be the requirements to become a senior.
I'm by no means a "senior" in any deserving sense of the word....just an "old d00d" with a big mouth. And I do get anal...everytime I see "how do I hack ___" (insert email service name) or "how do I do ____" (insert basic computer function here) ....everytime some snot-nosed kid comes in with it's little "fux0r u, 1'm 133t" attitude....I GET ANAL. And anyone here who says they don't in similar circumstances is most likely a liar.
So yeah, I'm an anal senior.....get over it.
btw.....I am NoT aeallison...that would give us 3 personalities and we're perfectly happy with the two we have.