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Hi all,
I was just faffing about with a file search program when I discovered this by accident.
If you create a folder within windows fonts (can be done from dos) and save to it it doesn't appear from within windows and the files in it can't be searched for.
might be handy.
the only problem is this. if you read it properly, you need to boot into true dos. and now days this is hard to come by. you need a boot disk made from 95/98. or otherways. and besides. why would you want to do that. to access the files you need to boot into true dos to read them and boot into true dos to write them. besides, it woud only be of use if the files you place under the folder under fonts, would only work if they worked with dos. cause as you say, you cant access them in windows
you can get there with explorer..
example, on a win9x box...
Start -> Run -> "command"
cd c:\windows\fonts
mkdir test
then in explorer ( [Windowsign] + [E] )
I type in the bar C:\windows\fonts
I see fonts but no test dir.
now in the bar C:\windows\fonts\test
ah, the empty folder where I can stash my ultra l33t secret pr0n ;)
Hey,
Trust not. just because youre grandad is looking at your files doesn't mean you have do be such a pessomist.
If you really are desperate to stop him looking at your files then label your drive and e-mail me what you labeled it.
I will create a small tsr program to stop his XP mapping to this drive or at least hide it unless he boots into true dos.
Hope this cheers you up a bit. !!!
i don't understand why you won't just PGP everything?
Stick all of your files into an Archive (zip, tar) and PGP the archive?
I think this would do just fine, although why is your grandfather snooping around your files anyway, ask him to stop and respect your privacy!
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Originally posted here by mark_boyle2002
Hey,
Trust not. just because youre grandad is looking at your files doesn't mean you have do be such a pessomist.
Well there's also:-
1. Floppy Disks
2. CD's
and you can hide them nicely under the bed...... He'll never think to look there....<s>
PGP rules ;)
Or maybe just hammer your computer.
sorry, just feeling a little weird today.
-inv
Insitronics: PGP only rules if dear old Grandpappy doesn't install a keyboard sniffer.... If he has/does then PGP is just another step to go through to _not_ hide his files..... ;)
I become mcgyver when it's time to hide files, even tho I am the only person who uses my computer anyway, I zip it, PGP it, rename it to 1a3g3p7.dll or some other innocuous system-file-type name and hide it in a folder that has a ton of them. and, on top of that, I used EFS to encrypt it so that if anyone else somehow accesses my system, unless they are under my username, they cannot access it at all. I don't bother specifying a hidden attribute, because, well, without my username password, the pgp passcode, and zip password, I couldn't even access it, and I'M the one who hid it. I was going to write a program, a pr0n viewer, that stores all media and picture files in one encrypted DLL or DAT file, and decrypts and views them directly from that file, in a totally secure manner. but, I realised I didn't need it, and i didn't want to give child pornographers and predators a method of getting away with their crimes, so, i decided not to make it, and even if i did, i wouldn't distribute it.
Acid: It's gotta take you a while to find that phone number then...... :D I mean Jeez, what kind of stuff do you have there that requires that kind of security..... Heck a bit of porn is hardly worth all that...... :o
that's where i keep my bicuit recipes.
Greetings All:
Encrypting important data is a great way to keep it from being viewed by others, but it is a horrible way of HIDING data (IE, you don't want anyone to know you have secret/important data on your box in the first place). There are many forensic tools that can be used to search a drive for encrypted data, reguardless of what you name it or what extension you give it.
So, encrypted data WILL be found by even a novice forensic expert. The question is, what type of encryption are you using, and what is the probability that it will be able to be cracked.
thats true JP....do you think this would work? Cutting the file up into loadsa tiny files, and scatering them around the system?
Oh, btw...isn't there a programe called camuflage or sum thing...it hides files inside other files...kinda nifty...
oh well...must -
- Noia
Greetings:
Hiding files inside if other files is called "steganography", if you'd like to do more research. I can tell you from first hand experience working with other researchers that do things for the government sector, that steganography is one of the large concerns for them now. The fear that users could be leaching classified materials out of a location by hiding it in what appear to be innocuous files.
However, steganography certainly isn't a new science, and has existed in many simpler forms for years (Ever write on a piece of paper with lemon juice as a kid, and hold it up to a hot lamp later when you wanted to read it?).
Stenography is something that I learnt about a year ago, and I found it quite interesting.
I was using a tool called S-Tools4, and basically, as JP said, you can embed any file within a file. For example, I embedded a text file into a .gif file. You can then password protect it and select your password encryption method (DES, 3DES or IDEA). Then you are done.
To the untrained eye, it looks exactly like a GIF image, but you can then extract the text with the S-Tools tool, provided you know the correct password.
about that Stenography SoggyBottom, if someone viewed the gif, could you make it a real one so there is no suspicion?
http://www.antionline.com/showthread...de+data+images
this is an old post about that, aside from file size, there is supposedly no way anyone can tell there is a file hidden within that file unless they had the original file that is hidden and the original file in which it is now hidden. meaning, if you hide a text file in an image, sans the original text file and the original image, there is no way to tell there is a hidden file.
question:
theoretically, if you add several text files to a zip file, then renamed it to a .dll like i said, without encrypting it, would a data recovery expert find it if he were searching for hidden text files?
if they guy knew what he was doing wouldn't he know that the dll was a fake, then figure that it was renamed so as to be hidden.
???
<btw, thanxs for the link>
Acid, I don't think so...I'd guess there are around 5000-6000 Dll's in a system, and with your file being any of them it yould be hard to find.....How-ever...there might be programes that find files with the wrong Extention designed for this purpose, oh well, I wouldn't know.....
- Noia