Have you read the site FAQ??

Hey all,

i was just reading a post about newbies reading the FAQ before they post so they dont make s
stupid posts ect.

now, as i was reading this post, it occured to me whether or not everyone has read it. now surely not everyone has read it thinking that it is the same old FAQ as other sites... you know, see one youve seen them all. anyways, im directing my question at memebers that have been here for sometime, particularly the senior members.

i want to know if you have read the FAQ at all, and if you have was it before you joined, or after you joined and how long after.

i thought i would put it in the cosmos forum cause it really is a physilogical question.

anyways, i will start. i read the FAQ probably anywhere between 2 weeks to a month after i joined. i have seen bits of it before and know the basics, but i have read the FAQ properly a while ago, but still...

anyways,

Cheers

i didn't read the faq first up. i think my biggest misake was posting before reading.
i think most of my AO points weren't even my fault. while i made one or two silly posts but i neva asked to hack hotmail i just pissed the wrong people off.
as you can tell i don't like the AO system very much but i haven't gone bitter ova the bad AO posts i've recieve...sometimes through absolutly NO FAULT OF MY OWN, i don't care about all that.
now i've read the faq back to front (i didn't find it that useful) and i post whateva i'm thinking with no fear of AO points.

Nope....I'v never read it, not because I didn't want too but because I feelt I didn't fully need to, now this isn't aroganse but I spent a long time browsing and reading the posts here before I signed up, and after I signed up, a long time passed before I started to post and make threads (Ok...I couldn't figure out how).
I'v always felt that FAQ's are a last resort....dono why.....it should be called guide lines, but generaly, a little logic and manners makes the FAQ kinda obsolete, oh well, not every one knows how to behave...

- Noia

Me, I just wandered around a lil bit as Guest before joining. i read the FAQ's before joining, so I pretty knew what was going or what not to do.
I think as everyone I made also some stupid posts, just thinki' 'this is a good one' but what turns out to be a damn bad post. No worries there,... therefore I'll stick to my signature.

Greetz,

so me being almost banned is an advantage?
i can worth with that..... so much freedom, i guess.
anyway i'm off to bed.

*must think of useful posts*
*must think of useful posts*
*must think of useful posts*

drew,

you're not even close to being banned, you've a grey dot which means according to 'the FAQs' :

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A grey dot means that the user has the same number of positive and negative AntiPoints, for a total balance of 0.

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Oh well , everybody learns from its mistakes, and everyone does make mistakes.... :p

Take care,

Greetz,

Well, i have reat it a few times actually, just to make sure im doing the right thing. But still i tend to make stupid mistakes, mistakes which could be prevented if i were to remember all the things mention in the faq. Im only human.

:wq
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I never went through the FAQ throughly, but I have seen it when someone posts 'the wrong' question, and a member links to sections of it, etc. Many of the posts I saw in the past showed fairly well what people wanted to read, and there was lots of it. I used the good posts as reference, and have tried to follow them when I make my own. I just haven't been able to give my threads titles that make you want to read it, because I'm too conservative in that area. But I have never gone all through the FAQ, and I probably never will. But that doesn't mean that I'll post 'the wrong' topics, etc., but it just means that I'll be somewhere loosely within it...

BTW, interesting topic, but has anyone noticed how the site sign-up thing has changed over time? I guess I'm lucky I joined before all of these new sign-up options / branches came up. The only reason I've seen those was because I'd try to post, and get the login screen. By pressing tab once, the next link (signup/forgot pass) comes up, and I'm too slow to notice by the time I press enter.


-Tim_axe

Actually according to the pop-up window for drew:

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drew has only a few negative Antipoints

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So thats not entirley precise!

Sorry just being a smart ass!

Oh and btw i didnt read the whole FAQ, just bits and pieces...

Well, I've


Never had the time or patience to read the whole lot.I've read some of it ! !!

Nobody's perfect!!!

:p Dr_Evil

actually, the FAQ does say that if you have a grey dot that you have an even AP score so to speak, but dont read everything you hear, cause from experience, you stay grey from 0 until -50 AP's anything over -50 (inlcusive) and you get a red dot. anything between, is a grey dot and anything over 0 is a green dot.

maybe it got changed after the GAQ was written

well, drew had "some" negative antipoints, say, 2 hours ago.
I had checked myself. Some just means anything more than , say 30-40 or so.

-inv

I haven't read the FQA's myself, I've been picking everything up as I go. Then again I am not really a thread starter, mainly someone who just sits and makes posts off other interesting threads that I either know something about, or have strong feels for or against what is being talked about. Up to this point I've done alright, actually I just got my first neg just the other day for some views I had on MP3 sharing < hehe, thanks to whoever did that >. So far that works for me, and what I need to know I pick up from reading other posts or someone might tell me < thank you techtech! >. But like I said I'm not a thread starter < yet >, so I guess I really don't consider myself really hardcore and in worries of being negged all the time.

The website seems to be setup very logically and straight forward, that might be another reason why I never read the FQA's. (And I really don't care about AP points, as long as I'm not going red or starting to post bad)

just to let you all know i was at -57 and in the grey. i'm getting closer to zero now but it's a whole lotta hard work when paint and photoshop provide me with all the green dots i could need. isn't there more accurate information about these colored dot's? i don't think the FAQ goes into any sort of details at all.

paintshop might provide you with all the dots you want. but no-one on AO can see that and it definately wont mean anything if its just sitting as a file on your comp

what i meant was the color that shows up next to username will not dictate my actions here. i don't care if it's green or grey or a little red as long as i can still post and read posts. i'm here to read and learn and help out when i can.

nope don't think have ever read it - i may have skimmed thro it
i've spent alot of times on these boards and others and i like to think that i don't do anything against what would be in the faq _that_ much ;)

faq's are useful for those people who are new to a community but alot of time its also watching how people interact on the boards to find out whats going to exceptable and what ain't

v_Ln

To be honest.... I read some parts of the faQ....The ones about posting on the forum....And I also read about ANTI-POINTs....After I posted something stupid :(

Maybe AO should make a quiz or something for newbies like me.... They need to read the faq and answer the quiz.... If they fail they can try again in an hour or two...If they pass they gain the ability to....Post or something :)

Do you like my Idea?

I never read the faq. Common sence and a bit of normall behavior is all you need. If I want to know something it's just normal to first search google or the boards before posting. I started with a green dot, went down to 3 red dots. I got those 3 red dots because people didn't agree with my political view, not because I posted bad posts. Now I have 6 green dots and I still didn't read the faq.
What does the faq say anyways ? How not to post and what to post in wich forum ? I don't know, but those things all seem very obvious to me. When I had 3 dots there was a message at the main page about AO as a community didn't like my behaviour and I should read the faq. There was a little guy (jip) next to it sticking up his middle finger at me everytime I looked at the main page. I couldn't care less about that faq. If a website needs other "special" rules then just act normal, I don't need to be at that site. The internet is big enough, there are other sites.
It's cool we have a faq to send newbies who do make wrong posts to. You won't see me help write one, because I think it's useless. If someone doesn't now to behave and can't find out himself a faq will only help in some very rare cases. Most of those people probably won't read the faq and just move on to another site. That's just the way it goes.

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i thought i would put it in the cosmos forum cause it really is a physilogical question.

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You're right TN123, it is indeed a psychological question.

Have you guys heard about Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI)? Psychological type is a theory developed by Carl Jung and added by Isabel Briggs-Myers to explain some of the apparently random differences in people's behavior. MBTI reports your preferences on 4 scales, each consisting of 2 opposite poles. It indicates the differences in people that result from:
- where they prefer to focus their attention (EI scale - Extraversion or Introversion)
- the way they prefer to take information (SN scale - Sensing or iNtuition)
- the way they prefer to make decisions (TF scale - Thinking or Feeling)
- how they orient themselves to the external world (JP scale - Judging or Perceiving)

There are 16 possible combinations of those 4 preferences (from ESTJ through INFP), which means there are 16 different personality types. These types help us understand differences in people behavior. Note: While the names of some of MBTI preferences are familiar, in everyday use they have meanings that are different from their MBTI meanings. Remember:
- Extravert doesn't mean talkative
- Introvert doesn't mean shy or inhibited
- Feeling doesn't mean emotional
- Judging doesn't mean judgmental
- Perceiving doesn't mean perceptive

OK, back to the original topic. MBTI is a general concept in psychology which can help us here understand why some people read faq before posting and some don't, I'll list down some characteristics in EI preferences:

Extraversion
- Attuned to external environment
- Prefer to communicate by talking
- Learn best through doing or discussion
- Breadth of interests
- Tend to speak first, reflect later
- Sociable and expressive
- Take initiative in work and relationships

Introversion
- Drawn to their inner worlds
- Prefer to communicate by writing
- Learn best by reflection, mental practice
- Depth of interests
- Tend to reflect before acting or speaking
- Private and contained
- Focus readily

So, what type are you? BTW, I'm INTP. And before bad things happen here, I want to stress this. Each type and each individual has special gifts. There is no right or wrong type, no better or worse combinations of types in work or relationships.

http://www.gsu.edu/~dschjb/wwwmbti.html
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm
and as always, http://www.google.com

Peace always,
<jdenny>