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I tried to setup a home network 3 computers 2 desktops 1 laptop. all running xp and a d/l router ran the winxp network wizard but nothing shows up when i click network places. when I click show workgroup computers I get a popup win 'network unavailable check with network admin workgroup computers unavailable.' yadda yadda yadda. does anyone have ideas on how i can get the network up and running. I did a search of the AO forums but could not find a solution hope you can help :confused:
What are you using to connect the computers together? Hub? Switch? Cross-over cables?
I'm trying to connect them through the router is that possible
yeah its possible, by d/l do you mean D Link router? If not what brand? Are any of the computers getting IPs? How about the router is it getting its IP? your not pluggin the computers into the uplink port are you? I know with linksys routers you cant use the port next to the uplink if you are using the uplink either. dont know why.
:wow: Just go in control panel, Network and install protocol for your Network(TCP/IP and IPX/SPX) on all computer for give all acces for web and Intranet.
Assuming that your router has a built in hub/switch, then yes.Quote:
I'm trying to connect them through the router is that possible
If not, then you will have to output your router to a hub/switch.
You will have to use straight through cables or patch cables.
Either set static ips all on the same subnet, or use DHCP and set the workstations to grap their ip automatically... example.
router: ip: 192.168.0.1
pc1:
ip: 192.168.0.2
subnet 255.255.255.0
gateway: 192.168.0.1 (router address)
DNS may or may not be required. I would just put in the dns servers your ISP assignes you.
Do the same thing with the rest of your PCs. Just up the static number.
pc2: 192.168.0.3 etc.
make sure that you are using the same workgroup. By default, windows calls it "workgroup".
If you are going to file share, you are going to have to have the same user ids and passwords on each computer.
If you have software firewalls, make sure to include your network number in the "trusted" list or you can do it on a per host basis. Your choice. In this case, you can use 192.168.0.0/24 as the network number.
Thats about it... Just make sure you have your router setup properly and not to open your network up to the world. Its always good to scan yourself and your network to see what you have going on.
If you can't ping, make sure your NIC has the correct drivers. You can test that by pinging the loopback address... either localhost or 127.0.0.1
Cables are also a good reason why it might not work. Make sure your cables are good.
yes d/l = d-link 604 I get IP's on all computers and the router IP is 192.168.0.1 I don't have it plugged into the uplink port. I did have a linksys hub where the port next to the uplink had to be open but I don't think it does on the d-link router
Cosmos - I have tcp/ip and ipx/spx protocols setup on all 3 computers. any other ideas
Phish - I am using dhcp and I can ping the other 2 computers on the router as well as the loopback 127.0.0.1
Make sure that all computer a have the same Workgroup Name exemple: MSHOME or another
They all have the same workgroup name
1) Make sure you are running the following services: (control panel =>administrative tools => services) Computer Browser, Workstation, Server (if listed), and Tcp/ip netbios helper.
2) Go to your network properties. Right click on network places, select properties. Select your interface, right click, properties.
2a. Make sure you have client for microsoft networks installed
2b. Select tcp/ip, click properties
2b1. click advanced
2b2. Click WINS, make sure enable TCP/ip over netbios is enabled
2c. Save all
3) Right click on my computer, properties, select network identification
3a) click properties
3b) Make sure that the workgroup selected is the same on all your computers
Save and reboot.
If after this, and you have given it a few minutes, you still don't see computers, try manually:
go to a computer, you want to connect to, bring up a command shell (select run and type 'cmd'):
type: ipconfig /all
This will show you that PC's IP.
Then go to the PC you wish to connect from, bring up a command shell:
Type:
net use * \\IP_Address_of_other_machine\(share you want to connect to) /user:(your username on that pc)
(net view will let you browse shares)
Try: net /help
or net view /help
or net use /help
It will then prompt you for a password. Assuming your password is correct and that is a valid share, it mounts that share on the next available drive...
/nebulus
Step 1) make sure the wires are plain, and not crossover....this is to say, if you look at the two plugs, you'll see that the sequense of wires is identical, and NOT reflected.
Step 2) Check IP's and SubNet masks, make sure that are all correct....
Step 3) IF u can connect to you router (Try 192.168.0.1 in IE or which ever browser), check the settings there...
Step 4) If u have used the network cards before, for ADSL or something and u installed software from your ISP then u might need to get rid of some drivers....which is VERY tricky...I simply formated.....
IF you format, make sure every thing is pluged in once u start installing, XP shoud auto-detect the router and possible the Internet connection on it...and will automaticaly set it up for you...no problem....
Hope this helps...I'v had ALOT of headache over network problems in the past.
- Noia
EDIT:
Lol, nebulus200, you posted right before I started typing :P
Normaly,your ISP control your DHCP.With a router,DHCP is now on your control.It's now more complex to configure but with time,you will find how to set your home network.Good luck
Your ISP will only control the DHCP on the OUTSIDE or PUBLIC side of our router (the IP address that everyone on the internet sees you as); however, your dsl modem or dlink will control the INSIDE or PRIVATE addresses that are assigned (it is the DHCP server), which is what kiowa-mike was asking about when he mentioned 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.0/16 is reserved as a private net, along with several other networks) is his router's ip...
Hope that clears things up,
/nebulus
OK Here is the nature of the problem... IF you can ping all the other IP of the other systems and you are getting a reply (which is the assumtion from what you noted before) THen all the PC are on the network and are all talking to each other. You are thinking because you can not browse them in network neighborhood they are not on the network. This is misleading. When you browse you need a device which will allow you to see the NetBIOS name of the system on the network. Since you are not running WINS or DDNS (W2K AD DNS) on your network we are seeing anything. Try doing a search for the PC <START> <FIND> you know the drill.... place the IP address in the box when you search for the PC. You'll find it. You might also enter the PC Name and find it also but it is less likely...
IT has nothing todo with cabling or network or settings if you can PING you are on the network
Thanks Paldie you saved the day. I did the search as you suggested and found the other computers. Although they still don't show up in Network Places I was able to map the network so now they do show up when I click My Computer.