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Heres my background I know little about programming, I understand html throughly, I tried php, but failed, will try a new approach by reading more and doing things in order, but I want to move beyond web based programming...
what tool will help me learn C++ better...? Borland C++ Personal or MS Visual C++
? Or should I learn visual basic? Let me know on pros and cons please, price is about the same for both products, tho Borland is slightly cheaper.
Unless you are going to be taking a c++ class, and because you indicated you failed with php, I would suggest NOT buying either one until you know you will be able to understand the language. You can find many free compilers for c++ on the net.
Free compilers:
Bloodshed
gcc
There are hundreds of these threads on AO. Just do a search and you'll find a lot of answers.
If you are determined to pay $$ then I use and recommend MS Visual C++ 6.0
Frankly, if you just want to learn C++ and not GUI programming, toss both products and get Bloodshed Dev C++ from http://bloodshed.net/ . If you do want to get one of those two, they're pretty much on par, so I'd say get the Borland product simply because it's cheaper.
Cheers,
cgkanchi
Edit: MG32: I guess the both of us were typing together.
if you're only new to the programming thing, as was suggested, get one of the free C++ compilers, borlands free command line tools is quite good for windoze stuff, along with using textpad as your editor (sorry i dont know the site for it as i got it froma friend, google for it and you'll find it soon enuf)
retail C++ packages are very expensive and if it turns out you cant pick it up it would be a very valuable mistake
my advice, leanr with a free compiler and then if you feel like you'll start making useful software, then get yourself a packaged version of something
I usually don't post if somebody has already said my opinion for me.
But in this case I would really recommend Dev C++by http://www.bloodshed.net just because it owns. :-P
And besides, its free, smaller, and easier to use than both Borland and Visual C++. Not to mention it compiles both C and C++ code, while I'm not too sure about Borland or Visual C++ (they may have a whole different set of IDE's devoted to ONLY C... meh?).
Last time I checked, you could get the Borland C++ compiler free from their web site.Quote:
Unless you are going to be taking a c++ class, and because you indicated you failed with php, I would suggest NOT buying either one until you know you will be able to understand the language. You can find many free compilers for c++ on the net.
ftp://ftpd.borland.com/download/bcpp...dLinetools.exe
Also, if you're looking for other free compilers, take a look at djgpp.
HTML is not a programming language, hence the name Hypertext Markup Language. ;)Quote:
Heres my background I know little about programming, I understand html throughly.
So what you guys would choose:
- Borland C++ compiler
- Bloodshed Dev C++
- cygwin gcc
- MinGW gcc
- other free compiler
I need to have ntop up and running on a windows box (don't ask why windows). In their website, MinGW is recommended to compile the ntop source, but I can't get it compiled properly. I'll look at it in more detail when I'm free, but in the mean time, if you can tell me your preferred compiler... :) Thanks.
Peace always,
<jdenny>
start with bloodshed dev C++, i was using borland 3.1 (net was down at the time) and later made a move to dev C++, it took me a couple hours to figure out that cpp modules used .h and c modules are just files.. :(
C++
Introduction to C++
C++ Variables
C++ Function
C++ Conditional Statements
C++ Construction expressions
C++ Classes
Quote:
#include <iostream.h>
int main()
{
char SittingDown;
do {
cout << "Are you sitting down now(y/n)? ";
cin >> SittingDown;
if( SittingDown != 'y' )
cout << "Could you please sit down for the next exercise?";
cout << "\n\n";
}
while( !(SittingDown == 'y') );
cout << "Wonderful!!!";
return 0;
}
or u can see whole tutorial hereQuote:
#include <iostream>
#include <iomanip>
#include <string>
using namespace std;
int main()
{
// Define the characteristics of a shoe box
// The following characteristics are COMPLETELY random
double Length(12.55), Width(6.32), Height(8.74);
string Color("Yellow Stone");
float ShoeSize = 10.50;
// Display the characteristics of the shoe box
cout << "Characteristics of this shoe box";
cout << setiosflags(ios::fixed) << setprecision(2);
cout << "\n\tLength = " << Length << "\n\tWidth = " << Width
<< "\n\tHeight = " << Height << "\n\tVolume = " << Length * Width * Height
<< "\n\tColor = " << Color << "\n\tSize = " << ShoeSize << "\n\n";
return 0;
}
The program would produce:
Characteristics of this shoe box
Length = 12.55
Width = 6.32
Height = 8.74
Volume = 693.22
Color = Yellow Stone
Size = 10.50
Press any key to continue...
for downloading the free Dev C++ u can find in :
http://www.borland.com/products/down..._cbuilder.html
http://www.bloodshed.net/download.html
Visual C++
Visual C++ Tutorial
Visual C++ Information
i think both of them ( C++ and Visual C++ ) are great ... i am not an expert on those things but i love that ... so if u ask me which is better ? i will say Both :D
Learning C++ is not a very easy thing. Everybody speaks now about visual programming languages, but I prefer the old style of programming. My favourite programming language is C (not C++). For the begining I sugest you to learn Pascal (just enter www.freepascal.org and you'll find there a compiler and lots of units and examples). This is because writing in Pascal is just like writing pseudocode and programming means not knowing one or another programming language, but knowing how to make an algorithm.
borland c++ or ms visual C++ ithink you need to learn borland c++ first as pondation ok then you can learn viaual c++ n its more easy ok ,good luck :)
I've said this on a couple other threads, but again, I'm gonna reccomend you spend $25 and get the book "C++ in Plain English" by Brian Overland. This book has both a simple, easy to follow step-by-step tutorial as well as a thorough reference section. This book will both get you started and keep you going.
And I got the Borland compiler for free too, but that was quite a while ago.
don't use borland. borland sucks.
For a beginner I would recomend Borland because of its easy to use interface. It may lack a few of the features that Microsoft offers but for just learning it wont make much of a difference. Also try to get a book or two about C++ because help files dont always have the answers. You might also get a friend to lend you his copy of Borland or visual so you can try it out and decide for yourself which you like better. Every programer has different tastes(like me i always change the syntax highlighting). C++ is easier to understand once you get past the main issues(such as Object Oriented Programing), and shouldnt be a big deal other than finding the specific function for the job that you want to do. Have fun!
Well, the final tests AP computer science tests have been switched to JAVA, so C++ is considered an old language :( JAVA is slower that C++ and i perfer C++ because you can do much more with it. Anyways, as far as compliers are considered, you sound like a newbie, so i would just get a learning edition of something for like 50 bucks at Frys or something. Dont buy a full compiler for like 700 bucks or how ever much they cost. And if you were really smart, you would just download a full complier from one of the sites mentioned above...
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Originally posted here by King of CaveMen
Heres my background I know little about programming, I understand html throughly, I tried php, but failed, will try a new approach by reading more and doing things in order, but I want to move beyond web based programming...
what tool will help me learn C++ better...? Borland C++ Personal or MS Visual C++
? Or should I learn visual basic? Let me know on pros and cons please, price is about the same for both products, tho Borland is slightly cheaper.
I started with C++ using old Borland compiler & later bought Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0 Enterprise edition which contains Microsoft Visual C++ & Microsoft Visual Basic 6.0. From my experience, I advise you to start with Visual Basic instead of C++ because Visual Basic is very very very very very very ... easy compared to C++. C++ is the most powerful language around & difficult to learn. I regret that I didn't start with Visual Basic as I am now in love with Visual Basic. Everyone says that VB is easy. So, you should try it.
Regarding tool, I think learning Visual C++ itself is a challenge. So, it is better to learn Visual Basic.