I would like to know how i can monitor my kids online activities such as their instant messages and e-mail like aol guardian without thier knowledge. I have windows xp so please give me some info on how this can be done. I kknow that it can.
thanx
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I would like to know how i can monitor my kids online activities such as their instant messages and e-mail like aol guardian without thier knowledge. I have windows xp so please give me some info on how this can be done. I kknow that it can.
thanx
My first suggestion would be something along the lines of a keylogger, if you search on google there are a lot that you can setup and will log all the keystrokes. A majortiy of Key loggers are undetectable to most people too.
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you should probably delete either this thread or the one in General chit chat Just a thought ;)
Does each of your kids ahve their own login account on the computer, do you all share one, etc? If they all have their own accounts, then you can go in and give them permissions. Set them up as users that can only access certain software. That way they couldn't get on and just use Kazaa to download porn and such. Make them as you to "allow" them to use it by doing a "Run As" on the application, and loggin in under the administrative account. That way you know when they are on it and such.
Another thing would be to use the security settings under "Internet Options". The "Content" tab will allow you to restrict access to certain sites. Sure it's not the best thing, but it's easy.
Also with anything you use a password on, try using different passwords for different things. Like one password for your admin account, one password for the Content in Internet Options, etc. That way incase they do find out the password, they can't get into everything
Also create yourself another account, that you never use, which has administrative rights. Try to hide it, just incase they might get into your administrative account and change the login password. Then you still have a sort of back door into the system.
Use a key logger, that's a good idea. The only thing I don't like about that is, they can use it on you too if they know anything about computers, or might be watching what you area up to. REmember kids these days are getting better with computers.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head right now, will post when I think of more.
You could most certainly run a keylogger, or if you were trying to view their actions in real-time, you might use something such as VNC and hide the systray icon from the systray. A keylogger would monitor their PC all the time, then you could check the logs and such to review the actions they had taken. Using VNC (or any other remote desktop app) would allow you to see exactly what the user was seeing as it happened - you could even manipulate their PC if you wanted (which would probably blow your cover)...
If you search the forums on AO you'll find a pretty good amount of information on Keyloggers, and check this link for info on VNC: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ You could also Google both of these...
I used a program once called Pc Spy. Sorry I can't remember the link but try a search for it on Google or Yahoo. It did cost some money but it recorded keystrokes, took screenshots and recorded IM conversations and programs ran.
There are lots of free ones or cheap pc monitors, some or bad, some decent, but by far the best I have tried would have to be spector professional. You can find it at http://www.spectorsoft.com/products/...asp?affil=1127 it is about 100 USD so if the money isn't an issue, this would be the way to go.
Ok I found the the name of the software that I was talking about. Its called Spy Buddy you can go to www.regnow.com for this product. When I bought it, it was $50.00. U.S dollars. It will record all keystrokes, log all IM chats, Websites visited, windows opened, every application used, document printed, text and images sent to clipboard, it also records system keys, and it takes snapshots of desktop every so many minutes that you specify. It can also send all of this info to your email.
If you were really desperate you could try using "Back orifice 2000" which has keylogging capabilites, realtime view of their desktop, hijack mouse and keyboard, view and kill processes and basically anything you can do from their computer and more. if if you are worried about security in that you can download 256bit encryption plugins and Stealthy TCPIO protocols and other such things f the like.
-- Dont flame me for suggesting a "trojan" as i said "If you were really desperate you could try..."
Try visiting this site www.blazingtools.com this you find a keylogger one way to monitor your kids and wife and you of course.
Regardless of whether they are your "children" or not (yes, thats quotation marks you see there..), monitering/reading someones email and prying on instant message conversations is just wrong. Sure, try netnanny or something as someone suggested, but would *you* like it if someone cracked *your* passwords and read *your* private doings?
my two cents..
*scowls* I hope your kids start tapping your phone conversations and opening your mail and reading it.
When it comes down to it, i think BO2K is a decent RAT(remote administive tool). Its only labeled as a trojan because alot of script kiddes got a hold of a good free RAT that has room for plugin's and off they went.
Also its bloody good at what it does, and im sure alot of other companies that charge for their RAT's wouldnt want a supior tool out there for free, so they may have had a hand in its branding.....
/gives paranoia back to russia
ok, here is a pretty decent open source PacketSniffer... you can use this to capture all outgoing/incoming packets with the AIM protocol within them...
http://rattlesnake.at.box.sk/newsread.php?newsid=168Quote:
The Coke Sniffer
@ :: projects :: Feb 02 2003 - 17:21 GMT
RattleSnake writes: Coke is a raw Packet sniffer for Windows with a GUI (Graphical User Interface). Coke only works under Windows 2000 and Windows XP since the WinSock Version 2.2 Implementation supports raw sockets only on these systems appropriately.
Coke is comfortable to use in my opinion, so I do not think I have to elaborate the graphical interface at all. Coke captures packets and displays quick information about them in a list - as soon as you select such a packet, the complete packet structure is displayed in a tree view control and you can select and copy the decoded values.
Coke only supports the IP Version 4 and the Transport Protocols ICMP, IGMP, TCP and UDP. Coke allows you to filter the captured packets for keywords and source IP address - these settings can be saved to an INI file as well.
Coke is simple and does not have many options. However, I think it is cool for educational purposes since it is open source and I also think that it gives you all the information you need. However, other great sniffer for windows are this one from TWLC's monitoring tools section and Iris which you will get from eEye.
Source Code (MS VC 6) -> http://rattlesnake.at.box.sk/project/coke/Coke.zip
Download -> http://rattlesnake.at.box.sk/project/coke/Coke.exe
analogX also has a nice free one, too...
Might it be a good thing to talk with your kids about Internet access (dangers of it and the crazy people on it) instead of logging everything and spying on your kids?
Why in the world are people saying it's "bad" to know what your kids are doing. They are YOUR KIDS, they are not live in's getting free food and bording! My gosh you people are freaking insane for saying that kids have rights to do whatever they want while they are in YOUR house. If parents didn't care then they wouldn't do anything at all. So going from the point of view that it's "wrong" to know what your kids are doing, I guess it's alright for them to smoke crack and do whatever illegal matters they want, afterall it's their life and it's none of the parents business...
When a person moves out of their parents/gaurdians house and is own THEIR OWN, then yes monitoring has a different meaning, but if you are under the AUTHORITY of another person, ie your parents, then if you are doing something against their will, then you have no right to complain about being watched. I know that now your going to say that well what if the gov't wanted to watch you, and that is the lamest argument ever. There are different levels of authority. Gov't watches public, AGAIN PUBLIC matters regarding breaking of LAWS set up by the GOV't. Parents have AUTHORITY to DISCIPLINE and watch their kids, and yes I SAID DISCIPLINE, ie PUNISH, them under the AUTHORITY given to them by the very laws of nature. If kids don't have to explain their acitions to their parents, then why in the world should anyone explain their actions to bosses, supervisors, police, gov't officals, etc...
Yes there are some really bad parents and when those matters arise the children should be pulled out of that environment ASAP, but parents that discipline and nurture their children will do that out of love for that child, not because they have some power trip of ruling over that child. Children change your whole world. You would do anything to protect them from the evils of the world, and if that means watching what they are doing then by all means do it...
Sorry for the rant, but when people say that parents don't have AUTHORITY to watch their kids and trying to protect them, it just really get's under my skin....
d0ppelg@nger: I am assuming that you are responding to my post.
I am not saying that you should not know what your kids are doing. I am just saying that I think it is reasonable to talk to your children first and give them your trust before you lock everything and log everything that they do and say. I do admit, that if you find questionable things on your computer you should look into a program like some of the ones mentioned in this post, but I am just in the frame of mind that if you lock down the computer and their lives, then they will want to rebel even more. I just think that if you spy on your kids (with no justification) and they find out, they will not respect you. Anyway, I am not trying to start a flame war, so I hope we are cool.
Jarrod...I might have looked at your comment and just read it for face value and not by the meaning that you had behind it. I agree talking to your kids is the FIRST item you should address. I am not for willy nilly spying on my kids, but parents do have the authority to protect their kids in a way they seem fit, within reason. I did not mean to take any statements out of context if I did. I just hear a lot of stuff from people saying that parents basically have no rights to discipline their children and attempt to protect them from environments that would hurt their children.
And I agree with you on that. As parents (which I will not become for a while) they should be watching out for their children and feeling that they do have the authority to discipline their kids.Quote:
Originally posted here by d0ppelg@nger
Jarrod...I might have looked at your comment and just read it for face value and not by the meaning that you had behind it. I agree talking to your kids is the FIRST item you should address. I am not for willy nilly spying on my kids, but parents do have the authority to protect their kids in a way they seem fit, within reason. I did not mean to take any statements out of context if I did. I just hear a lot of stuff from people saying that parents basically have no rights to discipline their children and attempt to protect them from environments that would hurt their children.
Well this thread is quickly turning into a flame fest. and I'm just gonna have to put my opinion. My mother has also put a censoring program onto my computer but at least i knew about it. I think it is morraly wrong to SPY on people. Especially their conversations. Talking is the way to go. That and a bit of precautions. Spying on members of your family is dishonest. And another thing, if your kids ever found out what you were doing that could permanently affect their trust in you.
my 2 cents. :rolleyes:
<drops two cents in the meter>
I agree minors should be watched and raised. The best lessons are from honesty and you will only get that from gaining their trust. Loggers are a foul way of keeping tabs on your young ones, but in some situations, it migh tbe the only means left to use. I would first talk to them, and if you feel they are still not being totally honest, tell them you are going to monitor them. let them know you are watching even when not around. The means of which is your choice, but I dont feel being sneaky right away is the best solution to a problem. No, I dont know all that your situation entails, but lets not forget, these are our children, we should be mature enough to afford them some privacy. Before long we'll be recording their phone conversations as well, and then what will we be emulating?
Well if you usually want the best your probally going to have to buy something to keep your kids away from bad things and internet dangers but I found a product that you might have to buy but you may try it out before you buy it this product alows you to http://www.webroot.com/wb/products/childsafe/index.php
Monitor your kids’ online activities to keep them safe from Internet dangers
Block access to inappropriate web sites
Keep track of your kids’ activities from remote locations
Create an online kids safety plan and enforce “acceptable use” policies
This is what it does o yea and this product is called child safe
Monitor Internet and computer activities
email activity
chat room sessions
web sites visited
programs run
and more
I am not sure if it will moniter your kids one on one sessions but i know it will if they get into a chat room.
But you can probally find a free one somewhere if you know how to look but usually you probally want to buy. You could also try www.google.com and it will give you a lot of answers. Or just sit down with them and talk to them about it and tell them not to go to those things because my parents think by taking away those things means i will never learn like downlaods and other things because some web sites are approppiate but then that child blocker comes in and doesn't allow them to acess it. Or if they will not listen and you don't want to take away the computer privilage then i suggest useing something to block it. (This is also just my opinion.)
>Hope that helps you.
This day in age trust within the family is very important. I think that if you plan to use any form of logging program on your computer you should discuss it with your children. They might not like it but like you said you have the authority to keep your kids safe. Say one day you discover that one of your kids did something online that you would not want them to do. Think about how the conversation is going to go when you have to tell your child you were monitoring every thing they did on the computer with out their knowledge. The affects would be devastating. If my parents did that to me when I was a kid I would have felt horrified and violated. I think and this is just my opinion im not telling you what to do is to inform them of your actions before you monitor them. I say this for 2 reasons. First there is the whole trust issue but you have heard plenty about that. Second if your children know you are monitoring them they will be less likely to use the computer of unauthorized activities. Instead of waiting to catch them in the act give them a chance and use the software to make sure they are being faithful to your rules. In the long run I would think it would be a better choice but its up to you. Either way you are protecting your kids the only difference is that one way is going to maintain some trust between you and your kids.
(Please don't take this post as me chewing you out for your decision. I just wanted to get my opinion out in the world)
Come to think of it, had my parents started spying on my conversations with my friends I WOULD have tapped their phone line and started opening their mail.
Hummm... How does playing with keylogers and things qualify as hacking? If its just porn your worried about then why not just take a look at the temp internet files... If your kids are deleteing all the temperary internet files each time he or she logs on then either the kid has something to hide or the kid isn't lazy like me. :)
Keylogers are fine and I think someone suggested useing a trojan.... thats fine for personal use and all but then you have to clean it off your PC. It would be much easyier to just dig up a few files, overwriten data, & (ect). But if you would like to (tottaly) invade someones privacy then stick with the keyloger idea. As for trojans don't do it....
Sure some of them come with friendly looking readme files and has a cute looking GUI... but usually the "friendlier" it seems the more dangerous it can become. For a example of how annoying things like BO-trojans can be... checkout my pic.
P.S. If your going to get a keyloger then get one that puts all the keys into a safe place on your HD. If your shareing accounts and running things like MSN-messager... your kids will become suspicios when you get mail from: yourself / to: yourself.
couldn't you just log to the HDD? in some hidden.sys file?Quote:
your kids will become suspicios when you get mail from: yourself / to: yourself.
My Parents (step Dad) hacked my e-mail account cos he setup it up so he did know the password, the knob thought I was buying gear online. The thing that pisses me off most about it, is don't do drugs except excessive amounts of alchol. It's totally wrong to monitor peoples e-mail and illegall at work. Unless you inform you kids your wrong monitoring your kids. I know you want to protect your kids against weirdo's but their are limits and how old are you kids the older your kids get the more privacy you should give them.
tampabay420 you didn't read/quote the whole thing, bud.
my advice would be stop spying on your kids and learn to trust them
you cant do much to see if your kids are trustworthy and not pliable to start doing things youd rather them not do on the internet. personally i can speak from experience of what the internet is, as my sister has been bannded by my parents by talking to strangers on the internet, calling them long distance, and then ending up with a 550 phone bill.
but this post isnt about ethics though ;)
I use and can recommend spy agent.
http://www.spytech-web.com/spyagent.shtml
im with him iznt it kinda lamo if u cant trust ur own kidzQuote:
Originally posted here by Dahvid
my advice would be stop spying on your kids and learn to trust them
Here are a couple of points:
If the ISP connection is in your name, you are likely going to be held responsible for how it is used regardless of whether you or your kids or your friend or someone else entirely actually sent unacceptable traffic.
If your PC is housing child pornography or a list of credit card numbers, you could be arrested for it. Regardless of whether you or your child actually downloaded/stored the files there. Yeah you might not go to jail, but do you really want to go through the hassle?
It is not illegal to monitor employee activity at work. It is the employer's bandwidth, time, and PC that are being used. As long as the employees are informed of the monitoring policy there is nothing illegal or even unethical about monitoring activity.
With regards to the issue of trust - I don't trust people by default. I can't - to a certain extent it is my responsibility to not trust people.
When my kids are older I will explain to them what is considered acceptable use and what is not acceptable use for my PCs on my internet connection in my house. I will have controls in place to limit and/or monitor their activity. I hope that as they grow up, they will continue to earn my trust and respect. However I fully expect that no matter how good they are, that they will make some stupid mistakes and bad decisions. I know I did, and occasionally I still do. Still I feel that raising my children is my responsibility. Turning a blind eye to what my children do would be ignoring my responsibility.
I am a teenager prolly about as old as your kids. I am 16 yrs old. To watch what your kids are doing online and who there talkin to and when basically what, when and where right. There are some remote trojans out there like sub7 and net-devil. Personally i have used net-devil you and get this program at http://www.net-devil.com. This program includes password caching, keylooging and ect.ect. Also with yahoo messenger and aol instant messenger in three program files there is a log of what your kids have said and who theyve talked too. A couple more things you can do is run a html proxy on your home internet like Bess, my school has this and it works very well, but if ur a smart kid like myself u can bybass this very easily if u know what ur doin. but for the computer illiterate people out there bess is just the answer. Finally what you can do is run a netware or novell client on your computer and give your kids each and account and give them access rights to your liking. hope this was usefull and if u dont know alot about computers i would recommend using the remote trojan net-devil. but for future reference i would use netware and bess the html proxy. I will also attach a keylogger to this post that you can use. the keylogger used ms-dos it works very well i have used it to obtain my parent passwords. they program is called keycopy
Twisted Kid
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well i think is a easy task spy ur kids on ur computer u can make some logs in some applications like email, internet, u just need active some propertys on ur applications and hide this log too
:p
um this post isnt about family members and trust he is asking abotu a keylogger so instead of judging hima nd getting in his biz...step off and help him out...i know of a keylogger called home keylogger...you can easily hide it and bring it back up by pressing predefined keys...i beliebe it is...ctrl+alt+shift+k and the site to get it at is... http://www.spyarsenal.com/keylogger/ its easy to use and best of all its free : )
how can you track and email down that someone that you don`t know?
Hmmm, yes it's wrong to spy on kids. After all - parents have nothing better to do than worry about what their kids are doing locked in their rooms. It's not right to show concern about the well being of a preteen child or someone who is in high school. I mean, kids never do anything wrong anyhow. Come on you guys! They never chat with strangers and give our personal information. They never attempt to look at porn or surf interesting areas to satisfy their curiousity about sex or drugs or alchohol. They are angels who only desire to seek knowledge on Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic. They never click on links or download stuff that installs trojans and spyware on the PC. How could they? Yes it's wrong to show a little concern about what is going on in their lives. The internet is safe, 8-14 year old girls are never lured into meetings with stange persons, with ominous intentions. Kids never use their web cams to show off there private bedrooms and other more curious things. Yes it's wrong for a parent to care and try to be active in their children's lives, both off and on-line.
sheesh.
As a proud supporter of WinVnC for admininstration reasons, I urge everyone not to forget the *free* tool for home use. It installs as a service and with the right security it cannot be disabled. With it you can see what is on the childrens desktop at anytime. In addition, if you are really concerned, because the child spends and extraordinary amount of time online, make sure the PC is facing the door. Pop in once in a while to say hi and talk a bit. If the user starts closing windows like crazy, pop up the VNC once in a while for a quick glance. You don't necessarily have to read everything, just get a general idea of what is going on and go from there.
hey, i don't do that stuff... and arithmetic is fun =D.