i was thinking seen as the US and the Brits are all over in iraq having a war maybe Russia would slyly slip in over the top while no one was looking and forces were down and take over Britain and the US??
We could all be speaking BMW very soon!
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i was thinking seen as the US and the Brits are all over in iraq having a war maybe Russia would slyly slip in over the top while no one was looking and forces were down and take over Britain and the US??
We could all be speaking BMW very soon!
I think thats a leftover cold war fantasy , Russia can barely afford to feed their own people ,much less take over the world . Now China ,aren't we supposed to be shaking in our boots over the commies ?, oh yeah its terrorists now, i frogot
and don't forget the anti-patriots, they are the terror within, the moral sucking leaches that ask <gasp/> QUESTIONS!!! Jiminy, who'd have thought people would get the gumption to question leadership in the US of A...
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i was thinking seen as the US and the Brits are all over in iraq having a war maybe Russia would slyly slip in over the top while no one was looking and forces were down and take over Britain and the US??
Thats great! I rarely get involved with political threads... we have much better members who know it way better than I.
I do know my history though and I do pay close attention to what is going on in the world...
I SERIOUSLY doubt that something like that would happen.
They'd have to have brass balls... which is kind of hard to move with such heavy balls. I think that was saddams problem...
Then again... a couple of years ago, it was unthinkable that we'd never see a terrorist attack on US soil... everyone is wrong once in a while. :rolleyes:
BTW: What brought up this? U have an article that you were reading that you wish to share with the rest of us?
Taking over the US? No way.
It'd probably won't happen, but IF there is one country that might actually be capable of "destroying" the US, it IS Russia, just like the US is capable of destroying any country on this world.
In the shadow of the war in/on Iraq, the Missile Shield is being discussed again by the neo-cons. They are working on a shield that should stop attacks from North-Korea or other countries with limited nuclear power. Even Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz are not that naive to think the shield could stop a massive Russian attack. But they do believe, and they're probably right, that an atomic war with Russia is higly unlikely.
Two cruisers meet, Russian and American. The Russian cruiser is panic-struck, the captain cries: "Who threw Valenki down on the control panel? Who threw Valenki down on the control panel????"
Americans only shake their heads wondering at the disorder at the Russian cruiser. "You would never see such things in America", they say.
The Russians respond: "There is no America any more! Who threw Valenki down on the control panel???"
This joke must date back to the Cold War, but it still is a possibility...
Thanks Vice I needed a good laugh today. Russia has a war of there own to deal with (Chechnya) and they can barely pay there troops as it is (in fact a lot of them are supplementing their pay by selling guns to the Chechnyans J ) So unless Russia wants to prove the mutually assured destruction theory they will leave the US alone. Besides now that they have given up on Stalinism they need our investors.
I won't hesitate to add that Russia hasn't exactly had the money to keep all of their missile silos in "working" condition so a nuclear atack from them is quite unlikely, also. I'm sorry to upset all of you anti-American AO'ers, I know how you look to the day when the U.S. gets it ass handed to it.....Oh wait... that already happened, didn't it?
M.A.D. Ever heard of it? Nobody wins. Everybody just goes away.
Sorry if I'm naive but what is M.A.D. ?
Anyways I just wanted to ask ViceDos do you really think that Germany would do something like that? Do you really beleive that they would ever even try to do that? And did you put any thought into this post before you made it? Sorry if I'm coming off harsh on this but I mean COME ON!!!!
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Sorry if I'm naive but what is M.A.D. ?
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Mutual assured destruction (MAD) is the doctrine of a situation in which any use of nuclear weapons by either of two opposing sides would result in the destruction of both the attacker and the defender. The doctrine assumes that each side has enough weaponry to destroy the other side and that either side, if attacked for any reason by the other, would retaliate with equal or greater force. The expected result is that the battle would escalate to the point where each side brought about the other's total and assured destruction - and, potentially, those of allies as well.
Assuming that neither side would be so irrational as to risk its own destruction, neither side would dare to launch a first strike as the other would launch on warning (also called fail deadly). The payoff of this doctrine was expected to be tense but stable peace.
MAD basicly worked...see the cold war. But insted of a total peace we had small brushfire type conflects in the third world. If not for MAD we may very well ahve gone to war with the USSR over Cuba or Afganistan or Vitenam ect. so in the end the fact that we could whipe each other off the map kept us civil.
The 'shield' you are talking about is the so called 'Star Wars' program.Quote:
Originally posted here by Negative
Taking over the US? No way.
It'd probably won't happen, but IF there is one country that might actually be capable of "destroying" the US, it IS Russia, just like the US is capable of destroying any country on this world.
In the shadow of the war in/on Iraq, the Missile Chield is being discussed again by the neo-cons. They are working on a shield that should stop attacks from North-Korea or other countries with limited nuclear power. Even Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz are not that naive to think the shield could stop a massive Russian attack. But they do believe, and they're probably right, that an atomic war with Russia is higly unlikely.
Two cruisers meet, Russian and American. The Russian cruiser is panic-struck, the captain cries: "Who threw Valenki down on the control panel? Who threw Valenki down on the control panel????"
Americans only shake their heads wondering at the disorder at the Russian cruiser. "You would never see such things in America", they say.
The Russians respond: "There is no America any more! Who threw Valenki down on the control panel???"
This joke must date back to the Cold War, but it still is a possibility...
The US does not believe a massive attack from Russia is going to happen now.
What the US is proposing to set in place is a limited defensive system that would be able to detect the launch of a single nuke (long range missile - ICBM etc.) from a hostile state, and have the capability to destroy it whilst still in the Earth's atmosphere.
Incidentally, some facilities in the UK are being upgraded to assist the US in tracking this possible threat,
I must agree with negative on that one. Russia alone probably has enough nukes to destroy the entire earth. I doubt very much russia would try anything like invaded Britian or the U.S though.Quote:
Taking over the US? No way.
It'd probably won't happen, but IF there is one country that might actually be capable of "destroying" the US, it IS Russia, just like the US is capable of destroying any country on this world.
I have to disagree with you on that one KD. Judging from history and the way the Russian's spend most of their income i think they have enough of those puppy's in fine working order to handle atleast the U.S.Quote:
I won't hesitate to add that Russia hasn't exactly had the money to keep all of their missile silos in "working" condition so a nuclear atack from them is quite unlikely, also.
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I have seen shows on tv and read rumors of huge russian cities underground, possible in the hundreds to protect it's citizens during nuclear attacks, do any Russian AO'ers know of this? I have also seen factual reports of a seperate railway system under moscow for government officials and for transport of massive amounts of troops to western Russia. All i can say is that if nuclear war break's out between Russia and the U.S they are probably better off than U.S citizens as far any kind of shelter is concerned. I know the government hasnt told me of a place to go if a nuke comes flying in. :eek:
Well I like your dream..
atleast Russia is a REAL democracy while the USA is just a bannana-republic :P
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Awww Jinx, blow it outta yer @$$. Ya every other country is perfect except the US. And you're from...?
Yer just jealous 'cause you don't have enough nukes to give everyone orange afros.
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And for your information, the US is not a banana republic, but a socialist republic. Get it right!
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I a mnot sure about the whol republic part... lets call america fiscaly liberal and social fasciast..that fits the last few administrations :). as for underground cities...the publice here may not survive, but our senetors will be fine, there is a huge bomb shetor under a resort out near washington.Quote:
Originally posted here by vescovono
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Awww Jinx, blow it outta yer @$$. Ya every other country is perfect except the US. And you're from...?
Yer just jealous 'cause you don't have enough nukes to give everyone orange afros.
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And for your information, the US is not a banana republic, but a socialist republic. Get it right!
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The Netherlands DO have enough nukes to destroy the entire western hemisphere, fyi... So does Belgium... Too bad they're American property, and just stored here (illegally) :D
Area 51 awaits you in Arizona.
Awww c'mon you mean you don't like our subs over me'ah? :DQuote:
The Netherlands DO have enough nukes to destroy the entire western hemisphere, fyi... So does Belgium... Too bad they're American property, and just stored here (illegally)
Bballad, why do you think that the U.S. is "social fasciast"?
I think all of the laws that are passed that invade a person's private life would be a good start (Anti-sodemy laws as the prime example). Add to that our continuing loss of privacy to the government, and losing restrictions on investigation oversight and we have social fascists.
I would also note the further destruction of church and state. Hell our attorney general was the leader of a political party whose published goal was to abolish the constitution and replace our government with a theocracy, and our secretary of education has basically stated that he wants to replace our school system with Baptist run schools. Now I don’t think attempted removal of personal freedom is limited to this administration (most of our presidents have tried to limit freedom to some extent) but this is the first group I can think of that is using religion as a tool to achieve their goal and this is keeping the right wing nut jobs who are usually the watchdogs for this unfortunately quiet.
Wow, I can actually agree with you on that one bballad.