What do ya'll think about [gloworange]KaZaA[/gloworange]and [gloworange]KaZaA Lite[/gloworange] Good or Bad and why.
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What do ya'll think about [gloworange]KaZaA[/gloworange]and [gloworange]KaZaA Lite[/gloworange] Good or Bad and why.
My opinion is that all P2P's are full of virii, and not worth the risk.
i agree with techtech.
i use IRC fileservers for all my needs anyway; easy, quick and .. umm ... easy!
kazaa is ok if you want pop music , porn and risk ,thats about it
Actually I have Pc-Cillin, a very good anti virus soft ware. I have downloaded virii but Pc-cillin automatically detected them and gave me the option to erase them.So virii arn't a problem (4 me) at all.
Well,
I'm always wondering why everyone wants to use p2p-networks. You get more crap than you dld-ed in the first place.
There's just no challenge on it. I love it to search something without those p2p, and heh... I every time seem to find what I need.
After some time you know where to search and you don't even think about those crappy p2p's.
Just my 2 cents,
i think it's all theft!
if you can't afford to buy cool software, then go GNU - and stop braking the law!
if you can't afford CD(s) then listen to the Radio...
not that i care if others do it, just my personal opinion on the subject...
i don't feel the need to rip people off, they worked hard on that data you're downloading... and getting absolutley nothing in return for it...
-take it easy :D
Tampabay do you know how many millions of dollars those companys make? "They are no particular friend" as Robert Duvall said in the movie "Days of Thunder"
thats not the point, just cause Phillip Morris makes billions yearly doens't mean i can go and steal a carton of ciggarrete(s), now does it?
the only virii on Kazaa are exe files.... if your pirating software or dling cracks, of course you will get infected. I think kazaa is a good thing in certain regards, I find all sorts of un-popular bands that would otherwise not be known in this region, and isn't sold here anyway.... just more publicity for some. It does make piracy easier, but hey, what doesn't??? Think of Tapes, cd's, palms.... I mean now a days, people will walk into a store with a palm, and dl software straight from a display machine!!!! Just because it makes pirating easier, doesn't make it compleatly wrong, or useless. Piriting is done in too many ways to blame kazaa and P2P alone.
jmho
I agree. I can always find what I need. Well... almost always. You just have to know where to look and how to use a search engine properly.Quote:
I'm always wondering why everyone wants to use p2p-networks. You get more crap than you dld-ed in the first place.
There's just no challenge on it. I love it to search something without those p2p, and heh... I every time seem to find what I need.
On the otherhand... I think p2p networks are great for people who want publicity.
I have said it before and I'll say it again...
The only thing I use p2p for is to let people download some local bands' music that I am friends with.
I have their permission and there are several of us that do it. I have been getting more hits than ever... and more and more people are showing up to the shows. On their flyers... we recommend people search p2p networks for their music. If they want the CD, they can buy it at the show. If not... at least the band gets paid more because they are pulling in larger crowds.
It is a good way for small bands to get some publicity. Not everyone can get on MTV (most of which is crap anyway) and don't have the finances to get on the radio or place ads.
The next best thing... p2p networks.
With the good comes the bad.
Yes, the viruses... the priated software... and all that comes with it.
tampabay420 im afraid I have to disagree with you somewhat. If it wasn’t for software piracy it would not be possible for a great number of us to obtain the skills we need in today’s job market, keeping in mind that borrowing a CD to install it or having someone burn you a copy is the same ‘sin’ as downloading it. Piracy to me is not all black and white for even though it's always illegal it can be the lesser of two evils. Not many companys that hire use GNU software and ive never seen a shareware version of office.
However networks like kazaa and even napster (in their prime) are putting an end to our ability (it has never really been our right) to ‘beat’ a system designed to keep those without money down. Now we even have agents watching news groups to see who’s sharing software in uuencode or base64 format. This had never been considered a problem, by anyone, until a greedy few decided to make file sharing a corporate activity and a hobby out of collecting MP3s, games, movies and software. Although Napster started out for students that couldn’t afford much it ended up targeting the general public and was even advertising on billboards, subways and busses how easy it was for even the most technologically indifferent to steal. Christ…Napster even took out full page adds in newspapers with pictures of Mom, Dad and the kids, gathered around the computer stealing their favs. What other outcome could possibly come of this.
Id like to see commercial file sharing networks like these outlawed and the DMCA dogs taken off the internet. This way those with the smarts to get what they ‘need’ will be able to get it while the average greedy dumd-**** middle/upper class kid can ask mom or dad for the money to buy a new game or music CD. Maybe even buy the latest DVD for a change and spend a little less on beer.
cough* IRC is better *cough
how else would i get my MAYA software? i understand why some people would have a problem with getting illegal software, but if i'm going to use MAYA i don't exactally have $16k lying around to get a legal copy, now do i? and i also think that if i can put a CD in my drive, rip it as mp3s to my hard drive, and transfer those mp3s to a portable, the "industry" shouldn't have such a fit about going one step further and sharing those files with others. i don't use KAZAA much- i've had too too many friends get nasty nasty bugs that way. IRC is a pretty decent way to go, alebit a little more complicated.
another thing about KAZAA- "there's no such thing as a free lunch." yes, some software you get is the real deal, but a lot of other software isn't.
I just recently started using KazaaLite K++ Edition and it's really sweet, it's not just all hacked up and featureless, it has Kazap built in as well as some other cool search and source finding features which makes it more efficient when looking for things.
KaZaA increses income for (small) bands !!
Small bands (starting / new artists) will not be shown on TV listened to on the radio and/or appera on your fav. festival..
They get "famous" by word of mouth and/or performing in small pubs..
The word of mouth on KaZaA works quite well for small bands.. and if you like a band you have heard, you are more likely to buy their album..
I would never buy a CD without listening to the songs on forehand (well if I allready own all other CD's by the band/artist I might.. but OK..) ..
Same with DVD's if I like the DiVX and want a better Quality version.. I buy it..
If I don't know about it, I won't buy it...
so the only people afraid of P2P are established Audio and/or Video makers.. they are the only ones with lowering income..
So It's not about stealing.. It's about a shift from the commercial to the good !!
If the multi-million dollar company's don't go to sufficiant length's to keep their programs from being pirated that's their fault. All they would have to do is Require a cd key, wich would stop most people that didn't have a keygen, and for those that do have a keygen they could require a Registration that ask's for your name and e-mail, not to invasive, just enough to get ya' if you are stealing their stuff.
From a system administration/ISP user stand point P2P is the biggest evil ever. My stupid users try to use it then complain to management when they can't get through my firewall. Every one complains after I'm forced to let them through because bandwidth goes to hell from all of their uploading/downloading. The cable segment I use to be on had 56k speeds because of all the file sharing going on....P2P users are some of the most selfish inconsiderate people around...Hey folks you are killing every one around your connection. and hurting your ISP/School/company (as a cooperate customer we pay by aggregate kbps..the only way I could convince management that they didn't need there music was showing them the next months bill).
Theres already a similar thread at :-
http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=242942
Hey bballad, what about home users who arn't on a network, did you think about that?
zigzag_8336 no offence, but bballad not only means corporate or school and home lan's he also means the WAN connection to your ISP.
I have explained this many times here on AO, and others did too, P2P sharing is due to the TCP/IP protocol and in combination with asynchronous lines a very inefficient method. four users can make a whole cable segment, could be 10 or 100 or even 1000 users drop to upload speeds. The thing is that without bandwidth management (like you can do with Unix / linux boxes) the upload from many p2p users (cause you need, without cheating, some upload in order to download) cable lines makes that the CMTS gets saturated. This upload saturation is not that difficult to reach since it's only something like 128k or 384k up on a 3Mbit down line. All ack packets are waiting to get through the continous upstream, so many packets from 'normal' webusers, gamers, ... got lost due to the saturation, this means also lag, your tcp/ip thinks: 'oohhh this is a bad connection' and your download speed drops to the speed it can establish a good connection -> this is going to be around... guess two times: 128k or 384k. This means you can lose approximately 368kB or 2.9Mbit in the case of 128k upload and 3Mbit download bandwidht. That's the reason why some admins do not like P2P ;)
Some networks have more then 3/4 of their traffic being useless crap.
Great explanation. This is why I take a *very* negative view of P2P. I worked for an ISP for a while, this was pre napster, but had I been there during Napster I would have supported the caps the owner insisted on ...Heck if I where running an ISP I would make it a violation of the terms of use to have a P2P server running.
Remember if you have a P2P server you are being very selfish and distroying the net connection of every one on the segment around you.
The only way I don't hae a probelm with someone useing P2P is if they are connected over dial up.