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I've come through that article, may interest XP users.
http://www.microsoft-watch.com/artic...1039464,00.asp
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The patch — which was designed to stave off a buffer overrun that could allow attackers to elevate privilege permissions on users' machines — ended up slowing some users' systems to a crawl.
Hmmm, this does not surprise me. The security measures on WinXP are not the best in the world, but still much better than the 9X or DOS of yesteryear. Let's hope the next gen OS's will resolve the issues.
Thanks for the article.
I am not so sure about that, DOS was very secure, no background processes..nothing ran at startup that you couldn't find out about, and no open network shares. Ok so it wasn't very usefull or powerful, but it was secure.Quote:
Originally posted here by linuxguy99
Hmmm, this does not surprise me. The security measures on WinXP are not the best in the world, but still much better than the 9X or DOS of yesteryear. Let's hope the next gen OS's will resolve the issues.
Thanks for the article.
as for the xp patch, suposedly MS is working on or allready has avalible a fix for it... also note that the exploit ti fixes is a local only exploit, so most people don't need to worry about it
I disagree with you. The FAT filesystem is VERY insecure, and when WinXP is formatted with NTFS is more secure... if you follow other precautions of course. Also, DOS was very useful :) How else would have MS made the very popular Win9x series? heheQuote:
I am not so sure about that, DOS was very secure, no background processes..nothing ran at startup that you couldn't find out about, and no open network shares. Ok so it wasn't very usefull or powerful, but it was secure.
As for background processes, there were a multitude of virii that could take advantage of the MBR, go TSR, and do other nasty things without you knowing.
:p
this has already been posted:
http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=242931
heh, it figures.Quote:
Crap! That has got to be my problem. I have a P4 2.5ghz, gig of RAM, and GeForce 4600Ti 128ddr, and the last few days it has been just WAY slow.
Does anyone know of a fix/patch yet???
a repatch! haha that's GREAT!!!... and only with microsoft :)
Sounds like a great gaming machine. Best patch I can think of is W2K. :DQuote:
Originally posted here by mindpilot
Crap! That has got to be my problem. I have a P4 2.5ghz, gig of RAM, and GeForce 4600Ti 128ddr, and the last few days it has been just WAY slow.
Does anyone know of a fix/patch yet???
Director
And to the question left for me:
It means things like that happen. If you look around, you see people post the same things knowing or unknowingly. No need to get all frigging worked up about it. heh.Quote:
and what is that supposed to mean?
Win2k is a good OS. I am not a fan of XP, but in all fairness it is built around it which can be a good thing once the bugs are out. From the patches it seems MS is making headway.Quote:
Sounds like a great gaming machine. Best patch I can think of is W2K.
yes the sucker Rocks..but I dont game at all. My 4 yr old likes to..but I dont have really any games. Any good shareware ones out there? He loves Airstrike 3D.Quote:
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Originally posted here by mindpilot
Crap! That has got to be my problem. I have a P4 2.5ghz, gig of RAM, and GeForce 4600Ti 128ddr, and the last few days it has been just WAY slow.
Does anyone know of a fix/patch yet???
Sounds like a great gaming machine. Best patch I can think of is W2K.
I just downloaded more updates today from Mafia$oft and it seems to be running better....but I am not sure!
It is listed in add/remove programs under Hot Fixes, the patch is 811493, remove it.
Thanks alot!!!
What for you remove it cos it is the exploits found to patch your WinXP and you making your system in vulerability.This patch is working fine for me,no slow down or conflict with anything.Quote:
Originally posted here by Wazz
It is listed in add/remove programs under Hot Fixes, the patch is 811493, remove it.
As with any complex system sometimes new bugs are introduced with the patches. You see this with any os, and about any software package. It's not just microsoft.
Sometimes it is better (judgement call) to simply wait a week or so and see what problems pop up with the patch before installing. It is always a good idea to put the patch on a test or staging environment and verify the system works as before (within reason), and that the bugs are actually fixed by the patch.
Yeah, but that's not a big deal. The users could uninstall the patch and their computers would be up and running at normal speed again.
The big problem is that there are lots of people who are offering fake patches saying that the patches they are offering won't check the registration key, and the patches MS offers will. People who are running stolen versions of XP then download these fake patches only to be infected with a trojan. I've seen it all over usenet and IRC, people need to be much more cautious.
Anyways, just be careful people, I've seen it happen so many times. If you don't download the patches from MS, make sure you scan them before you run them!
Oh yeah,i do agree with you there are so call FAKE PATCH around.Indeed,i have install a patch before apart from MS update website and it really slow down my system.No joke cos it real.Get the patch from MS will never face this problem.I guess people using the fake patch slow down their system or cannot do a update due to their invaild key(For their window,Priacy).Quote:
Originally posted here by linuxelite
Yeah, but that's not a big deal. The users could uninstall the patch and their computers would be up and running at normal speed again.
The big problem is that there are lots of people who are offering fake patches saying that the patches they are offering won't check the registration key, and the patches MS offers will. People who are running stolen versions of XP then download these fake patches only to be infected with a trojan. I've seen it all over usenet and IRC, people need to be much more cautious.
Anyways, just be careful people, I've seen it happen so many times. If you don't download the patches from MS, make sure you scan them before you run them!
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Originally posted here by wacky_sung
Oh yeah,i do agree with you there are so call FAKE PATCH around.Indeed,i have install a patch before apart from MS update website and it really slow down my system.No joke cos it real.Get the patch from MS will never face this problem.I guess people using the fake patch slow down their system or cannot do a update due to their invaild key(For their window,Priacy).
You where the same guy that was blasting any one who used MS on antoher thread, now you are claim the MS patch works perfecty :confused:
This one dose slow down your system in a lot of cases, and unless you are worried about loacl security (ie some one sitting at the machine elevateing their privs) its not a big deal, so uninstall the patch. Its not needed and causes more harm then good
To me,you seem more like a empty vessel making lot of noises.IF YOU REALLY KNOW,I DO NOT SEE WHY YOU MAKE SUCH A COMMENT.The reason is simple cos you do not know.It is better to remain silent and nobody will say you are dumb.I think you better learn to read more and test it yourself before commenting this.Quote:
You where the same guy that was blasting any one who used MS on antoher thread, now you are claim the MS patch works perfecty
This one dose slow down your system in a lot of cases, and unless you are worried about loacl security (ie some one sitting at the machine elevateing their privs) its not a big deal, so uninstall the patch. Its not needed and causes more harm then good
wacky_sung:Quote:
To me,you seem more like a empty vessel making lot of noises.IF YOU REALLY KNOW,I DO NOT SEE WHY YOU MAKE SUCH A COMMENT.The reason is simple cos you do not know.It is better to remain silent and nobody will say you are dumb.I think you better learn to read more and test it yourself before commenting this.
Why is that you have a "Mr. Know It All" attitude in almost every thread you post to?
The article says it may slow your system. It doesn't mean that it will do it everytime to everyone. People have had mixed results. Just because you don't have trouble, doesn't mean that the next person isn't going to.
Maybe you should take your own advise? (read the quote above)
I am not your so call "Mr. Know It All" cos i have tested it myself.Beside that i am involve in several forums beside here and most of them get the same result as me.If i say this is does not affect me only,then i am wrong but so many of them get the same result as me.On the other hand,you must know how to do a manual tweak for your own system to make it run faster and better.Quote:
Why is that you have a "Mr. Know It All" attitude in almost every thread you post to?
Here is a list of security guide line or tweak which you can found
http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/1131/
http://www.dougknox.com/
http://web.mit.edu/is/help/winxp/xpsecurity.html
http://support.shaw.ca/networks/xpfirewall.htm
http://ww8.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_abc.htm
http://www.overclockersclub.com/windowsxpservices.shtml
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...t.asp#section6
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...rpasswords.htm
http://www.astalavista.com/library/os/winXP/
As for the slowdown, it aint the first time this has happened:
http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=241767
Considering the construction of DOS...
What always bothered me were the 'TSR's..."Terminate and Stay Resident"s. I may not be an issue to today's remote access hackers, but with local access....
Any thoughts?...or am I way off in my thinking about this?
Ouroboros
Hey I have PII 300 with win xp, what i know is with or without patch it is bloody slow
I wouln't seguest dowloading any SerialPacks if you downloaded WinXP
I think with ServicePack 1 they can see whether you downloaded it or brought it
but im not 100% sure.....Thats why i don't download any ServicePacks
Better update tour WinXP file by file.....to be sure what you are updating
Yea you really have to be careful when installing those patches. I have quit updating windows due to my last 2 updating experiences. Seems after installing updates the last 2 times i updated my computer would linger on the xp startup image screen and never get into windows. The only way i could get past this was.. (1st time: rebooted around 432423 times then finally after letting it sit for 3 hours it posted)(2nd time: restarted and booted into windows via safemode and let it sit for about 25 mins then restarted twice and bam got in.)