Are you happy with the new AO?

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April 29th, 2003, 01:11 AM
-DaRK-RaiDeR-

Are you happy with the new AO?

Guys,

I'm not in AO as usual as before anymore but i have received some PMs and been reading some opinions throughout the different forums and i've seen many, many discontent members saying that:

1 - the new AO logo is awful (although we have the contest now)

2 - old AO didn't have ads in the main page as it has them now

3 - the General Chit Chat Forum's threads (etc.) aren't showed in the main page anymore

4 - the new AO owners have commited some errors and members blame them (for example removing GCC Forum's threads from main page without telling the members, etc.)

5 - they miss JP

So, how do you feel and what are your opinions about this? I can't opine yet because i haven't been around enough to do it.

Thanks,

DKRR
April 29th, 2003, 01:59 AM
Girl_for_Tech

I do wish all the threads would show up on the front page, but overall i think the site is still awesome.
April 29th, 2003, 03:39 AM
sickyourIT

i personally miss the little security tester thing they had before. and if they still have it and i can't find it then i'm a moron. but until recently, last i was on AO was like 99, and i forgot my username and password since then
April 29th, 2003, 04:20 AM
phishphreek

I think it is doing ok. Though... I've really only been haunting these boards for bout a year and some change. I have noticed quite a few new people coming in and quite a few older members leaving. So goes the circle of life.

I have no complaints about the new mgt. I do wish that we did have an option to show all forums rather than just the security forums. It would be so much easier to find active forums and threads that are not security related. After thinking bout security and computing all day... it is kinda nice to chat bout everything else.

So... other than repetative threads... no. AO is still a great community and I'm still addicted. Though... I have found myself off at several other sites (mostly security) reading all the old stuff that I've missed out on.

Now that school is coming to an end... maybe I can get my social life back on track?
Too soon to tell...

AO is a great place to come when you are procrastinating...
I seem to be VERY good at that when it comes to schoolwork. :rolleyes:
April 29th, 2003, 10:11 AM
VictorKaum

I would say, stop complaining and give them a break. I can find myself in what phishphreek80 said about the new mgt.

1) Who cares about the logo? It's not that bad at all, and there's a contest. IMHO the new logo has somethign professional, it looks more statefull than the old one, but it isn't an eyecatcher. It's flat so a beauty: definitly not! ok: yes!

2) yes the adds... bleh. If someone buys a thing like this, they also want to get something in return. would you risk the investment? ;)

3) GCC not on frontpage -> well it's the first time this works. JP tried this before and people started abusing other forums. The main disadvantage today is that the forum stays more static since there are less new posts an the main, but the good thing is there are more on topic posts. I have to admit that I barerly post since the new AO, perhaps that has something to do with the GCC disappearing from the main. But it can also be the lack of decent content, questions comming back all the time, the absence of some senior members from 2001...

4) yes, they commited some errors and pissed some people off, who does not. Who is free from guilt throws the first stone (or something similar ;) )

5) It's not JP himself but more the community feeling and warmth, probably this comes back after a while, perhaps it is back or moved to other places.
April 29th, 2003, 01:23 PM
Jehnny

Overall, I'm not quite sure if I like it more now or not. I've been here for a long time (many of you remember me as jehnx) and I used to post ALL the time, but now I hardly ever post, and I'm not really sure why. I don't know if it's because of new things that are happening, or if I just don't have as much interest here as I used to, if I miss some of the older members who I used to talk to all the time, or if I just wish we could have irc.antionline.com back again.

Either way, I don't think that Jupiter is necessarilly doing a terrible job per se, but I don't think that they have really turned AO around for the better, either.
April 29th, 2003, 07:59 PM
KorpDeath

Well I'm still here, if that says anything. Having as many problems as I've had with the new mgmt, that could say volumes. Anyway, they aren't that bad when they keep to themselves. hehehe
May 2nd, 2003, 06:28 PM
sickyourIT

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Originally posted here by sickyourIT
i personally miss the little security tester thing they had before. and if they still have it and i can't find it then i'm a moron. but until recently, last i was on AO was like 99, and i forgot my username and password since then

what kind of @sshole negged me on a general chit-chat forum about an opinion based question. some people are retards, and that guy needs a helmet

(here come more negs)
May 2nd, 2003, 06:43 PM
ReLik

the forums need a radical shake-up, they're a mess, too many unneeded ones and not enough topic-relative ones.
May 2nd, 2003, 06:48 PM
bballad

As some one new to AO (I think I may have lurked in 99 or 98, lost the address and didn't bother) I think I can give a slightly different prospective. How could you guys have standed the site with general chitchat overloading the front page. Sure this would have made inane conversations(like this one) easier for lazy people, but it would have mad actual security discussions very hard. If I looked at this board in the 90's I would have probably not stayed as the front page was filled with nonsecurity issues and I was looking for a site with useful info.

Although I am guessing there are a few people here who would have been happier if I didn't stop by :)
May 2nd, 2003, 11:19 PM
-DaRK-RaiDeR-

bballad,

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Originally posted here by bballad
...Sure this would have made inane conversations(like this one) easier for lazy people...

If you think reading what people think and opine about this site is reading inane conversations then must i disagree with you. I think the site owners (as they say) like to hear what we think about AO and it's not a waste of time. Threads like this one keep us a little closer beyond the security threads in the main page that we all like.

Maybe the site owners should have opened a poll before taking out the GCC Forum from the main page or at least as many of you say adding an option in every user account to choose if they want this kind of threads to be showed in the main page or not.

Besides, and to my surprise, i have read many opinions of respected old members i thought they didn't want the GCC Forum to be in the main page saying they WANT IT TO BE THERE.

OK, that's my opinion and i respect yours, and see... we have awaken a good discussion here ;) , take care buddy,

DKRR
May 3rd, 2003, 06:39 AM
Spyder32

Heh, I'm somewhat happy.. Then again, I don't know if anyone here even know's who I am. Or that I ever came here :D I haven't been here in awhile, lot's of things in my life that are happening and AO has changed a lot for me. I'm very busy with a lot of other things, but I'm here right now. Dunno if I'll be here tomorrow, or the day after ;) but I'm here. Anyways, "What's up?" to all the people here who know me.
May 3rd, 2003, 08:16 AM
powertoad5000

Re: Are you happy with the new AO?

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1 - the new AO logo is awful (although we have the contest now)

Yes, there's a contest, with a prize no less. You could argue that it's their job to do the logo, but since people wanted a contest, they gave a contest. Which sort of invalidates any bitching about an admittedly shite logo.

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2 - old AO didn't have ads in the main page as it has them now

Ok so it has ads (which means my Banner Free Surfing means bugger all :)). If you are that worried about ads, you can use a program like Proxomitron which will filter all the ads out of the web pages you browse. Like souleman said countless times, they have to make money somehow.

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3 - the General Chit Chat Forum's threads (etc.) aren't showed in the main page anymore

Jupiter bought this site, and they want this site to focus primarily on security. So they took those forums off the front page. Quick thought, how are the owners supposed to sell the site to advertisers as a security site if the main page is covered with: political discussion, 'what's your favourite...', antipoint bitching and associated bullshit threads.

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4 - the new AO owners have commited some errors and members blame them (for example removing GCC Forum's threads from main page without telling the members, etc.)

http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=241198

It didn't show up on the front page, but it was still there, in the New Features forum, probably the most likely place you're going to look if you noticed a change like this.

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5 - they miss JP

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May 4th, 2003, 05:22 AM
linuxguy99

It is still AO but with new management. I dunno what all the bitching is about.

Personally, if you do not like a site, leave.

edit- Somebody left me this message:

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respect other people opinions and stop the insults as in your signature, profile baby photo, etc, and if you don't know how to be polite please leave!

I can say whatever I want. If you don't like what I say ignore me. :flip: