AO Flood Issue

I took a quick look and thought this would be an ok spot to put this. But after sivlelive little rant on our board, I think something needs to be done. As I know is already probably in the works, I just wanted to post something so everyone could voice their thoughts. There needs to be a catch in the posting system that especially looks for the same Subject and Message from one user over a short period of time. I think that would have solved the problem if something would have been in place to check for that.

Also I think that if someone kept trying to post the same message/subject over and over, they should be banned for ATLEAST a few days, or some sort of action taken. sivlelive was being stupid, and we just need to see that and make the effort not to let it happen again.

I mean does what I'm saying make sense, does anyone agree?

~ AciD

Maybe just make a time limit between each new topic you post.

Guys,

Any thing JUPM decides to do will take them some time... but is good that we write our ideas here so they can now what we think.

Nice thread AciDriveHB and hope more members post here...

Bye,

DKRR

PS: i can't understand why is taking so much time to bann that guy...

I got to agree with you guys here. I know some of my threads havent been the best but it just amazes me how idiotic some people are. Everytime i start getting down on my self i look at threads like sivlelive 's post ( am i the only one who noticed that spells evil elvis backwards?) suddenly i feel better about my self. On a serious side is it possible froma programing standpoint to actualy do something like that. I know in theory just about anything is possible so i should say feasable(*sp)?if so im all for it.

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There needs to be a catch in the posting system that especially looks for the same Subject and Message from one user over a short period of time. I think that would have solved the problem if something would have been in place to check for that.

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Yes but as with everything computer related, you get the exact output that you have for your input...in other words, one letter changed in his title and it would have been useless anyway. And he may not be a genius, but it's not going to take anyone long to figure that out.

As far as banning him for a few days...he's banned. The AP system worked as it was meant to for a change. And as far as it taking a long time...what, an hour? That's not that bad, considering (and no offense to MsM or Neg, we know you have lives too) that if it had been left up to human moderation, it could have been 6-12 hours before anything was done about it.

I don't think it really happens enough for JupM to make it a high priority. Between human moderation, and AP moderation, he had a very short-lived run on the main page. His "15 minutes of fame" so to speak, and now he's gone.

Edit: I did think of one thing that would be a bit of an improvement, but forgot to put it in the post the first time. :rolleyes: It would be cool if the threads that went suicidal weren't on the main page anymore, cause this guy is banned, but now we've still got his crap all over the main page, and several of them are suicidal. THAT I think would be well worth the time, because if a thread has been killed by the forum, it shouldn't be on the main page anymore, IMO.

This idea may keep me from posting on the front page for sometime, but how about earning the right to do it?. I mean there are several other layers of discussion in this site, I know the front page is the most commonly used, but something does in fact need to be done. I have made a few dumb posts, but I am a n00b still. At least to this community. Perhaps put into place a must read, and then a test over the 101 on our forums. If they pass they can post.

theres a good idea. make all new members take a test based on the site faq and common sense. If they dont pass they dont get in. I like it dopey

I posted a simlar idea here.

Though it got little feedback. It would have possibly helped to prevent this little episode... ;)

Ah well...

Given the fine jobs done by Neg and MsMittens (genuine compliment, not sarcasm), I would lean towards a couple more moderators IF it can be done in a way that is economically feasable on Jupiter's end.

OR....

Give the admins and mods the ability to "insta-ban" idiots like this one.

OR....

Turn on the IP logging and we can start sending Guido and Vinnie out to "kneecap" the lamerz.


/me visualizes sivlelive waking up with a bloody horse's head laying on his keyboard.....

hey just to add about people posting, sure the "thought" wouldn't work if someone changed their screen name, but what if the system actually looked to the person's IP address? Sure that might screw some people up coming from a corporatoin, but it wasn't an exactly worked out thought, but along those lines... you know what I mean?

Yeah I know this might not be a high priority, or even something that JupM cares about right now. But if it happens again, or more, at least we started a thread and started the thought process. Maybe someone will find this later and add on to it?

Thanks guys,
AciD

Sorry....dynamic IP's blow a hole in that one unless you want to block an entire IP range.

yeah but even so... I'm talking about making it so they can't make a new post for at least a minute after making a post.

you already cant make more than one post in a minute.

Maybe you could stop a user having two posts on the front page that was started in the same day and base it on the user accounts or have a link to newbie posts on the front page as most of these guys dont get many anti points just my thought.

the best solution is DONT FEED THE TROLL most of you are net savy and intelligent you should realize the reason sivle posted is to inflame and get a rise. Everytime one of you responds it keeps his/her posts on the front page and gets him/her a laugh(encourages)

Agree 100%. Lamerz get some weird satisfaction from annoying people.

I often wonder about their mental and social state. They hide behind their anonymity (and computer) just to annoy people.

Their lives must be pathetic.

Well, the thread is closed, moved and merged with it's siblings. I think it took me the same amount of time to do it as it did for him to post all that crap. Neg and I talked about having a "recycling bin" where we could put posts like that since the delete function is a bit flaky on a site this large. I forgot to ask yesterday for one but perhaps now is a good time to get it.

Anyways, thanks for you patience and sorry that it happened. :(

No need for you to apologize msMittens. your not the idiot that did it. IMHO we cant blame the mods cause some jerk pulled this crap. You and neg have lives too.

having said all of this I think allenb's suggestion of

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Turn on the IP logging and we can start sending Guido and Vinnie out to "kneecap" the lamerz.

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is an excellent one - as long as I get to be Guido :D

just think MsM and Neg... you could then threaten to 'set the dogs' on people - just think of the possibilities :D

seriously though I think the AP system did it's job on this occassion and as someone else has said... it only took about an hour or so... a retunr time like that isn't bad.

just my opinion

Z

Are the threads being bumped or are the same users writing new useless threads or both? In any case, i think that this problem could easily be solved by limiting number of posts per hour by rank, or validity of the posts......kinda like a screening. premium and certain admin members have to approve a post b4 it hits the boards.....

IDK if it would work, but it might. Just my $0.02

**Thread moved to Site Suggestions**

I hope no one minds but I've moved it here since there are some good suggestions that I think JUPM should consider and review. ;)

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You and neg have lives too.

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We do!? Damn. I keep missing the memos..

Thanks MsMittens for moving the thread to a more suited place! ;)

As for a posting system. Well making a mod or admin or someone have to approve the thread before it went into play might slow things down more? I don't know exactly, one of them would have to tell you that! Though really putting any limitations on thread posts per hour, now that I'm thinking about it with some sleep behind me, wouldn't work either. There are some people who are just crazy out there and might post like 15 different threads in an hour if they found the right information. Too bad we can't have someone with power always be able to be on call on the site. That way if someone started making a lot of posts, the said admin would be able to get a PM and check it out for auth reasons.

But more and more I'm starting to like the "kneecap" idea. We'll setup an AO mofia and that way anyone who f**ks with us will go take a swim with the fishes :D

If were going to form the AO mafia i wanna be "no neck tony". But seriously i know this was suggested earlier but maybe a few more mods and somekind of warning system like AciDrivehb sugested combined. That and "kneecapping" i like thAt idea. even though im not quite sure what knee caping is hehehe

I always thought "knee capping" was where someone would take a baseball bat to someone's knee's. Then again I'm a geek, not a gangsta! LOL

well AciDrive and ZombieMann.... time for a lesson in violence...

***caution if anyone is of a nervous disposition or does not like reading about acts of violence stop reading now - I mean it***



a proper kneecapping is usually when as the name suggests you remove the persons kneecaps... this can be done the quick and dirty way with a shot gun or other firearm aimed in the appropriate direction (note if using a pistol it is usually more effective to aim from the back of the knee thus causing the kneecap to shatter completely upon exit of the bullet) or by taking a chisel putting it onto the top of the kneecap (just behind where it is attached to the rest of the joint) and then using a hammer (or baseball bat) in a swift downward motion thus neatly and painfully removing the kneecap. Apparently a similar thing can be done to the elbow but its much more difficult to repair an elbow. You can smash the persons kneecaps with a baseball bat (I'm told an electric drill can also be effective) depending upon how serious a punishment you want to dish out.

all joking aside... and if anyone else is still reading this we are joking.... kneecapping someone is excruciatingly painful, messy and an excellent way to totally f**k someones life up.

Z

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Thanks for the note, I'll try to get those mental images out of my head. LOL, but yes all joking aside we are kidding incase anyone is wondering. But it's just the fact of the matter that "we" do not like people "messing" with our website. It's one thing to voice that you are against a person, subject, even AO... but it's another thing to try to annoy us and such.


< edit > Speaking of Mafia though, a nice little buddy icon from the AIM archives