Re-write pain in the ass message...

Guys,

I'd like to say to not get rid but change the way the "pain in the ass message" is written. Many new members that don't know this site join AO full of hopes willing to learn, help and be helped. The message says something like "the community thinks you are a pain in the ass..." and that's not true because with just ONE neg (if it's your first before you have a positive one) this makes appear the "pain in the ass message" taking you to a grey dot and it doesn't represent the (how to say it)... "feelings" of the community because were just one or two members that neged him/her, and maybe these members that neged him/her are newbies too and are making this message appearing. I don't think it's fair that maybe the members that are just bothering around this site, neging unfairly, etc., can make this message appear pissing of a new member that really wants to learn. We know it's just a message and we know what its pourpose is but many, many new members get really pissed of because of it, even more when they are just getting used to browse the site and learn the rules. Maybe it is OK if you receive that message after being a member for some time in AO, start to post useless info and a "reasonable" part of community take yourself from (for example) two green dots to a grey one. This should be comprehensible because it's your own fault if you change your behaviour here. But i think is not worth showing this "pain in the ass message" to a new member that have just made his/her first post and really it's not a "pain in the ass"... yet.

So... i think the message should be re-written, thanks,

DKRR

i think you got a really good point there ... some users may take it seriously .... when i first Registered i started posting Sh*t and got negative point and the messege appeared ... for me that just meant read the FAQ and see what you have to do to help people out here ...so i started posting useful information and the messege dissapeared after a few days ...so for me it was kind of a motivation to start posting good stuff here ...but for other it might mean *fu*k off*...

Umm, unless I am mistaken it takes like -200 or something antipoints to get that message.... And where are you getting this idea from DarkRaider? Are newbies sending you pm's complaining about the pain in the ass message? I mean seriously, you say that they are being affected by it, but how do you know? Personally, I think if you sing up for an account and don't take the time to read the user agreement and get neged, you are being a pain in the ass. Maybe if you took 30 seconds to find out the rules of the site, it wouldn't be so bad.

I got 2 more questions for you though....
1> why is this posted in GCC? With as long as you have been here, why isn't it in site suggestions?

2> What the hell is your problem with this site? I mean I keep seeing you make suggestions on how to make it better. Well I got a suggestion for you. Either get over it and live with the site the way it is, or go find a site that you like better. Personally i am sick of seeing threads that are complaining about the site. They are as bad as all the threads complaining about antipoints. My god, either get over it or move on. If you really feel the need to make suggestions, pm jmpman and talk to him 1on1 because your suggestions are really getting annoying. And in case you hadn't noticed, most of them are being ignored anyway... as a matter of fact, I haven't seen any of them installed yet. Are you hopeing that maybe someday 1 thing you suggest will get installed so you can tell all your friends hey, I had something to do with the way AO runs.... Oh wait, maybe you are hoping that someone will read all your posts and decide to make you a moderator. I mean ****, that would be cool wouldn't it? A paid postion working for AO? Oh wait, you already applied. And if I remember correctly, your application really kissed a lot of ass. And the funny thing is, when your pm was discussed, everyone got a good laugh out of it, because it was so obviously full of **** based on your posts that the only think you were considered for was laughing material in IRC.

....Wow! Don't hold back will you Soul?

:withstupi
*Moved from GCC... ask Souleman*

OK,

Well... arise citizens, the KING Souleman had spoken. Who do you think you are? You got really angry because i posted threads suggesting things to improve the site? And know what, yes, i already PMed intmon many times and he's a real gentleman. He made me feel a real member of this site and he showed they care about what we think. He has answered every and each PM i sent him. What's the problem with a thread about an opinion of the "pain in the ass message" or with any other thread i wrote? What if i wrote 1.000 suggestion threads? Are you this site owner? Do they pay you to control how many suggestion threads a member writes? Maybe there's a part in the FAQs where it says: "please, if you are an AO member, control how many suggestions the other members do", but i haven't seen this part in the FAQs.

Have you read the forum title? it's called: "Site Suggestions - Post your ideas about how we can make AntiOnline better!". Do you know how many threads are there? 5470 until today. How many of them are mine? 5, 6, 7??? Wow!!! What a lot!!!

And again, yes, if i posted this thread in the GCC forum was because i have my own reasons to do it and i don't have to give you an explanation about it. Besides, i don't have to explain you where did i get the idea that new members are getting pissed-off from for receiving this pain in the ass message, and i'm free to post my opinion where i want.

I haven't replied before to this because i have just seen it.

More, YOU... ARE... WRONG!!! you don't need -200 points to get this message, OK??? You SHOULD know about it, you are a senior, the same way i supposedly post in the wrong forum, how can you be saying such a barbarity??? Where did you get this idea of the -200 points??? Do you have your own rules??? With just a grey dot you get this message.

You said:

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Personally, I think if you sing up for an account and don't take the time to read the user agreement and get neged, you are being a pain in the ass. Maybe if you took 30 seconds to find out the rules of the site, it wouldn't be so bad.

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Wrong again!!! i was talking about the new members that get this "pain in the ass" message because of unfair neggings or because of other new members that don't know when to neg and so they are really having this "pain in the ass" message unfairly and not because they are a real pain in the ass, get it?. And many newbies have complained about it.

What the hell is my problem with this site??? mmm... let me see... ohhh!!! maybe i'm a sleepwalker and i write threads when i'm sleeping insulting this site... mmm... NOOOOO!!! I have never said anything against AO, so why are you saying this???

Ahhh!!! and what a good thing!!! so some of you are violating members privacy. How could you know about a PM of mine???. I don't remember wanting a paid position in AO, i SWEAR over my grandfather's tomb and show me the PM if i did it. Many members would like to be moderators and i'd like too but never asked to be paid. Another of your lies to put me against AO???

I have a descent work and so i can help my family to live in my little country. I earn my own money working hard although i work in what i love. I'm in this site because i love it too and many members (like it or not) like me the same way i like them. JUPM know it too.

Finally, i remember when i made a quilt with all AO avatars, newbies, members, addicts and seniors... and i remember i put you there... yes... i put you there... i don't discriminate...

You seem to have a personal problem against me and know what?... i don't know why...

I'll be here if you change you mind, i have no rancor neither against you nor your incomprehensible words against me.

Take care,

-DaRK-RaiDeR-

PS: sorry for not writting before.

Maybe instead of rewriting the 'pain in the arse' message it could be seen instead at a lower level of antipoints. Since the message has been brought in the amount of antipoints that some people have has increased enormously to the point where (like you said Dark Raider) one/two assignments can have that person seeing the message. So shift it to say -200 (maybe ban at -300) and then it would be a truer reflection of the feelings of the community concerning that member.

Hey,

Note: I'm answering here because the other thread was closed.

Debwalin, was i talking to you? When will you marry souleman? Many of us know that's an alliance, many of us know you'll never neg souleman and you always neg in pairs.

Please if you see your beloved souleman tell him that in his profile, unders "skills", he forgot to put "starting useless fights against other AO members".

Ahh!!! and can i ask you something? WHY ARE YOU INSULTING ME OR MY POSTS??? What have i done to you? Did i ever said soething bad against you? Why are you attacking me now? :confused:

Thank you very much and have a good day,

DKRR

Hahaha, Deb and I are not in an aliance. Just because we sleep together doesn't mean anything. We have both given eachother negative points on more then one occassion.

And why are people insulting you? Have you looked at your freaking posts? Why don't you learn grammer before you make some of your posts, because I have to read them 3 or 4 times before I can understand them. And then put the posts where they belong.

Just curious DarkRaider, did you ever get to read my post in the other thread? Cause I was really curious about your responce to part of that. Oh yeah, and useless fights? I am not trying to start anything. I am just trying to get you to stop bitching and either use the site the way it was designed or go away.

Oh yeah, and whoever gave me the negatives saying "you suck *******", thank you, I am still trying to get negged off the top10 list but it just isn't working. And whoever told me not to attack another senior member.. **** you. A senior member is only bassed on a number of posts. If there was some requirement to become a senior member, I would agree with you, but any swinging dick that wants to spam the forum can become a senior member. So what makes him so special? **** a lot of the ****ing newbies have a lot more computer intelligence then most of the senior members here. They just don't feel the need to spam the forum with a bunch of bull **** so they never become a senior member.

Souleman,

0. We have both given eachother negative points on more then one occassion.
0. When?, when you both had grey dots?

1. And why are people insulting you?
1. You and Debwalin told called me ****, my posts are crap, i'm a dick, etc...

2. Have you looked at your freaking posts? Why don't you learn grammer before you make some of your posts.
2. Yes, i have looked at my posts and i always try to correct my errors, i speak spanish and at least my parents made the effort of paying my english clases so i can use them in the future. I's like to see you writting or speaking spanish...

3. Did you ever get to read my post in the other thread?
3. Of course i did.

4. Oh yeah, and useless fights?
4. Yeah!!!, useless fight.

5. I am just trying to get you to stop bitching and either use the site the way it was designed or go away.
5. Suggesting is not bitching. You started attacking me because of my last "suggestion" about the "pain in the ass" message. I took the time to read many other suggestions and they seem like bitching too, but they're only suggestions. Ahh!!!, i won't leave because you ask me to, i'll leave if JUPM request it. Who are you to try to prevent a member from doing something?

6. I am still trying to get negged off the top10 list but it just isn't working.
6. Wow!!!, what a modest and humble member!!! can i be like you?

7. And whoever told me not to attack another senior member.. **** you.
7. Mmm... F**k you... what a kind phrase, are you sure you deserve your status? Nice example for newbies...

8. So what makes him so special?
8. Who said i'm special? Are you jealous?

9. **** a lot of the ****ing newbies have a lot more computer intelligence then most of the senior members here.
9. So you have problems with other senior members too? Mmm... i don't think they knew about it but be sure they know it now.

10. You hate me...
10. I can live with that.

Have a nice day,

DKRR

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8. So what makes him so special?
8. Who said i'm special? Are you jealous?

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Hmm, tried to stay out of this one, but since we're going to act like children....

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Debwalin, was i talking to you? When will you marry souleman? Many of us know that's an alliance, many of us know you'll never neg souleman and you always neg in pairs.

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Are you jealous?

So...which theory do you subscribe to...that I'm female therefore I can't make up my own mind about whom to neg? Or that because I don't run around spamming the forum trying to convince everyone of how much I know, I don't know anything? I'm quite capable of making up my own mind about whom to flame, and whom to neg. I don't need someone to tell me what to do. As a matter of fact, if you had any idea about what I'm actually like, you would find that suggestion as laughable as I do.

Now...I've been nice. If you continue to degrade my intelligence as a woman, I won't continue to be.

I don't hate you, I hate ignorance and people pretending they are something they are not. Oh yeah, and ass kissing really annoys me also, and you can't even claim that you are not an ass kisser. I never said I had problems with any or the senior members, I just said that many of them don't know jack **** about computers. Look at deb, she claims she doesn't know ****. Greek Goddess knos some but she is more of a graphics person then anything else, just a newbie when it comes to security. **** Negative doesn't know that much either, but he is learning. I have no problem saying it. They all know it and agree with me. But then there are people like Juridian who knows his ****, but just can't stand the ignorance on this site so he doesn't post often. And even the however many quad accounts that banned. He knows his **** also but just got himself banned making fun of people like you.

Oh yeah, and I live in the USA, this is an English speaking site... I speak English.... Therefore I use this site. I could care less about spanish. If I spoke spanish, I would go to a spanish speaking site.

Oh yeah, I just remembered... Negative lives in belgium... he speaks Dutch, French, and English. Engish is NOT his first language. I don't remember exactly but I believe Dutch is, and French is what he uses at work. Yet I have never seen him have grammer problems or bad spelling or anything. The guy has the best grasp of the English language I have seen. I mean ****, I will admit my grammer sucks, but at least people know what I am talking about.

Mmm...

Did i say i know that much about security??? :confused: I'm here to learn.

Just look at my profile and you'll see the things i know...

...and know what???

GAME'S OVER!!!

DKRR

wow I didn't even know we were playing a game. Cool.

"Engish is NOT his first language."

Your's either huh souleman?

Just thought i would add some humor to calm you down.

You did make a good point though, alot of people here are NOT getting the credit they deserve and some are getting to much. Me personally I think it evens out, but I also think people here should have more credit when they deserve it.

TheFiend> I admit that I can't spell for crap :) and that my grammer sucks. But at least you only had to read it once to know what I was saying. You don't have to reread it 2 or 3 times to get the point.

Ugh Just all grow up and stop this insane thread, This ain't community.

but Shrekkie, your taking away all my fun :(

:::sighs::: Ok guys. Im not here to piss you off. But look. . . . you are all acting like children. Soule and Deb. We have been friends for a long time and I would never do anything to harm our friendship. But you all know better than to argue like this. You are the ones that are supose to set the examples here. You too Dark Raider. I want this childish **** to stop. We are all adults here (at least I thought). There are a lot of younger people here that look up to you all. I still do. . . for now. What do you think these younger members think when they see 3 senior members going at it?!?! This saddens me to an extent. As much as we use to talk. . . I didn't think you all would go this far as to keep a thread like this going. I had more faith in you all. I still do. Let it end here. I hope you all are not mad at me for this. But I had to get this off my chest. If any of you would like to talk this over. . . please e-mail or PM me. Thanks.

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Originally posted here by RogueSpy
There are a lot of younger people here that look up to you all. I still do. . . for now. What do you think these younger members think when they see 3 senior members going at it?!?!

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Perhaps they will think we are a community of individuals not a group of "senior member" clones?

Also...I'm not a real big supporter of finding people to "look up to" on the internet. If that's what they're doing, perhaps it's time to pull that big plug in the back for awhile.

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Originally posted here by debwalin
Also...I'm not a real big supporter of finding people to "look up to" on the internet. If that's what they're doing, perhaps it's time to pull that big plug in the back for awhile.

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Clones eh?! hmmm. Ok. Whatever.

As for your secound comment about pulling the plug. Wtf!? You know. . not all kids have a perfect life. Some of these kids go through hell every ****ing day. Being abused by drunk parents. . . having no friends at school. . . . basically rejected by all. Untill they found a new "home" on the net. Somewhere they feel they fit in. They make friends. They find other people interested in the same things they are interested in. They see people that help others time and time again. They want to be more like that person. Yeah. . . a kid like that is just going to ****ing "unplug". Right. Loose everything that ever made them happy. Ok. **** it. Never mind. This isn't helping at all. forget I ever posted anything.

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awww Rogue, chill out. Are you letting people online upset you? Your right, people do look up to us, good or bad, especially with the fact that the top10 ap list is still on the front page. But they also look for us to make sure that things are getting posted where they should, and help set an example. Having posts in the wrong place and making 5000 suggestions and kissing ass are not good examples either if you ask me.

Thats what the PM and E-Mail buttons were put there for. While I was a Supervisor at work. . . I learned one valuable lesson. . . Praise in public and correct in private. The same should be said for here. Trust me. . . im not taking up for him. If he does something wrong. . . correct him. . . have the thread moved. . . PM him and tell him why. . . . hell. . . give him the link to the FAQ's. Im not saying you have to be nice all the time. . . but damn people. . :::sighs::: And no. . . im not letting people online upset me. I just have a lot of **** happening in my life at the moment. Lost job, car in shop, running out of money, hospital bills, medications, and I can't get ****ing health insurance with a local co. because im diabetic, **** like that. . . . I come here to get away from it all. Not to listen to people complain over silly ****.

I agree I don't want to listen to people complain about silly **** either. Thats why I normally stay out of site suggestions, because 90% of it is people complaining about silly ****. But I don't expect to see that in General Chit Chat, which is where this thread started. To many people whining and complaining about stupid silly **** when jupiter has bigger things to take care of. Like the fact that the yellow and purple doesn't match the logo at all right now. And they need to get somone watching the AP system and try and get things figured out with that.

I agree. :D

its true think about new members that doesnt know this like me !