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If I were to install the sub7 server on myself with a password, wouldn't that keep me secure from it? Or is it relatively easy for someone else to retrieve the server password?
I use a firewall and such, this is just something I've been curious about for a while :D
Sub 7 password can be buter forced. If you want to install the server you can do a loop back and connect to 127.0.0.1 with the client. I wouldn't install sub 7 at all unless you disconect from the internet and format the comp when your done. Sub7 is the poster boy for script kiddie tools you might find you time better spent messing around with netcat.
http://www.gotthegeek.com/sub7.shtml
I suppose you could install it on a test machine behind a firewall to test its capabilities...
If subseven is distributed in binary format only, you'd better hope it only does what the authors claim, because if it does anything *else*, then you've only got yourself to blame if it sends all your keylogs to god-knows-who
Subseven is a piece of mal-ware. If it turned out to contain a trojan as well, that would be quite ironic (especially seeing as lots of people incorrectly refer to it as a trojan)
You definately want to limit who can connect to it, you can create rules in your firewall settings to block all but localhost. passwords can be brute forced as mentioned previously, useing strong passwords is recomended. All my passwords are always at least 6 characters long, do not contain any real words, and have at least 2 numbers.
I don't plan on actually doing it, I just thought it would be funny if installing it on yourself would protect you from anybody else trying to give it to ya :)
Just for fun you can always run a fake sub 7 server. Just stop by some script kiddie irc channels and see who connects.
http://www.winsite.com/bin/Info?500000019947
http://eng.heldimzelt.de/
Hummm.... what the hell. That won't protect you at all infact if you put a sub7 server on your box then you are actually doing half the work for kiddies who want to poke around in your comp. Even if your infected with like 10 of the same backdoors many come with editors to change what ports and regkeys it'll use... or alot of times they can automaticly find and use other ports & reg besides the default so they won't conflict with other existing maleware/normal software. Haveing these things pre-installed won't "protect" you at all, man.Quote:
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I don't plan on actually doing it, I just thought it would be funny if installing it on yourself would protect you from anybody else trying to give it to ya :)
Heh , well if you want a form of a joke , what you can do is grab yourself a copy of netcat and run the following.
nc -L -v -p 27374 -e whatever.bat
for whatever.bat , all you would have to do is write a batch file containing a nasty message to the kiddies.
i'll just make a technical distinction.Quote:
especially seeing as lots of people incorrectly refer to it as a trojan)
a trojan horse is a program that appears to do one thing, but actually is designed to do something else. it could appear to delete everything on your hdd, but secretly it could be adding money to your bank account - still a trojan.
a trap/back door is a piece of software that allows a person or persons, who are aware of its existence, to gain access to a ``system'' in an unconventional way that they are more than likely not authorised to access. and a system doesn't have to be a computer...go figure.
its just happens to be convienent for certain people to combine these two forms of threat into one. a distinction is clearly visible.
Does anybody know a scriptkiddie irc channel, I want to try the netcattrick.
hehehe ha-lf just go to a yahoo chat room named "hackers' :P
Most of the authors make "master passwords" too, so a strong password may not even matter if those get out. The only logical thing to try it on is a test box that doesn't have a connection to the internet and test its functions, learn how it installs itself ect.
Hmmm, a buttload of negs on this one. I didn't know of "master passwords" or etc, so thought installing it on yourself with an impossible password would be good. Live and learn :)
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so is sub7 good or bad
hmmm, thats a tough one.Quote:
so is sub7 good or bad
well, its both good and bad.
as a piece of software or malware, it is inheritantly bad. automatically inheriting all negative qualities from its malware super-group.
on the other hand, as an example of how bad software is, its quite good. but only quite good, and not excellent.
Wow.. Sub 7 eh? I cant Believe you put that on your machine, I cant even Think why you would even "THINK" about putting that disgusting program on your computer. "hacking means create." so make your own system of doing things, and dont use anyone elses... Eck... no excuses Sub 7 is weak, immature, and the easy way out. no excuses in the world can solve that issue.
Good or bad? Its freaken Redicoulous. It cant do NO HELP, you want to learn how networks work? how to do basic jobs? open up a freaken networking book on TCP/IP, look up Security Exploits for certian systems, research Cryptography and encryption, educate yourself on how packets, and frames are encapsulated. Look at more logical aspect, and physical aspect, study the system. Know your ports... dont GO as low as that program. i maybe only 18 but i have accomplished alot since i was 14 getting into it. I never dared to even think twice about that program i learned everything from books. not script kiddie programs.
Sub 7 cant do you any good, but except make you a simple minded script kiddie who thinks its "cool"... Its not fun. Sorry bro but if I were you i would stay far away from that program.. fdisk your machine. and take everything on it. because your already infected. as soon as you hit execute, your already a target yourself not even a firewall can take care of that... and if your going to ignore what i just wrote, dont igrnore this :i suggest one thing. if your going to run it, run it from a CD, or some other source. not your computer. payce.
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