Help DESTROY the SCRIPTKIDDIE in ME

I am not really a SCRIPTKIDDIE but i am HEADINg in that direction if noONE is
gonna help.

My point is:
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1)-This site has a lot of forums on newbie HELP,but when I read it-- they tell what a HACKER/CRACKER/WHITEHATZ/BLACKHATZ etc.
They give the ETHICS they GIVE
RULEZ but they STILL dont TELL YOU HOW TO LEARN(START) HACKING ,and they give
you some BROKEN links-----------WHERE does that leave me and the rest of the
NEWnewbies--------I'll TELL you:

*Its leaves us to............GO GET AND USE SUB7 (wich I hav got,but WON'T use,cause
my MORAL standards doesnt include that simplicity of using those tools)

What i REALLY would Apreciate is if someone could give me links(THAT'S NOT BROKEN)
to how to START hacking by not using these STUPID toolz.

And I AM WILLING TO LEARN
I HAVE LEARNT BASICS of PASCAL
BASICS of C/C++
BASIC HTML

And i do know a PC well- ive been playing around one since i was 6.

PLEASE help
I HAVE searched on the net for toolz tutotials and anything else there is to hacking
I DOWNLOADED 60MEGS worth of FTP's, PASSDICTONARYs
and even the SH!tty SUB7 and some more trojans- I infected mySELF by MISTAKE
and got a bit PARANOID,then i THOUGHT to myself it doesnt feel good knowing
there a program on my pc wich could give anyone acces to my PC,then i DESTROYed it
I LEARNT A VALUABLE LESSON: NOT TO DO THING LIKE THAT to OTHERS.

2)-WHY r all the SENIOR and NOVice hackers in here so ANTI-NEWBIE

YOU should understand if we(NEWBIEs) dont get any help we(NEWBIES) will eventually turn into KNOW-NOTHING-SCRIPTKIDDIES and this site would be SCRIPTKIDDIE PLAYGROUND
-if u know what i mean.

ANYWAYS PLZ HELP-I DONT NEED TOOLZ(i think so ) i NEED KNOWLEDGE.

THANK you for reading this VERY-long THREAD
and I am sorry if it may hav OFFENDED you or was TOO LONG with NOTHING in it.


YOURs TRULY:HANDzCLEANx
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:rolleyes:

Get yourself a copy of Hacking Exposed and read. When you get to a subject you don't understand (networking, tcp/ip, linux) go out and find info on that. Just keep doing this pattern. Read Read Read. They say the n00b never reads more than the first 25% of a text file. I can belive that......

hjack

haha,

First of all loose the CAPS ;),
I suppose you already know a lot, my meaning is that you need to learn what you want to learn.
You'll definitly encounter topics that never interested you before, that all of a sudden seem very interesting.
Along this way you'll learn a lot and loose the urge to pick some lame by-someone-else written scriipts and proggies.
Me, for.ex. I'm not interested in hacking at all, I just enjoy learning the knowledge, and I can tell you , I learnt a damn lot on lil time I'm here.

Greetz,

From your profile - Occupation, "student", I am assuming you are studyng a computing discipline of some sort, and if so my recommendation's would be to:
a) Ask your lecturer anything you are unsure of(or college technicians can be quite helpfull)
b)Use the resources of your local library
c)Search and use the resources of the Internet, AO, archives etc.There is very little
that can't be found if the time is taken to look
d)Possibly take a course in software development
e) Try and get together with people locally with the same type of computer interests
f) Experiment with your own system/system's - not other's

Thank you for your replies

Ok i guess Hacking Exposed is a book
Here in South Africa we rarely get these types of books, most big book shops
only has like 20 diffrent books of C/C++, HTML,A+ and some graphics books

Anything with the wordz hacker is not to be seen ANYWHERE
But i'll be searching for some WAREZ site that would give it to me('Cause I cant afford ordering or buying any BOOKz ;))
Thack you again
And I shall be loosing the CAPS slowly but surely- thanks for the tip.
(And sorry about the script i copied ,I did get it from the MENTOR's site)

YOURs TRULY:HANDzCLEANx
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You will have a hard time finding a hacking exposed book out there. I have looked on many a warez and hacking site for a copy of that book. No luck. (I'm not in another country or anything, just poor) I have found this though.

http://www.antionline.com/showthread...axium+security

I posted this a while back.

Read.

Not just the first chapter!
And remember that 85% of the hacking text you will read out there are either out-dated or bullsh*t to begin with.


hjack

Check this link:
http://www.antionline.com/showthread...ht=free+ebooks
It's about free e-books and tutorials about network security.
Hope it helps

Quote:

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YOU should understand if we(NEWBIEs) dont get any help we(NEWBIES) will eventually turn into KNOW-NOTHING-SCRIPTKIDDIES and this site would be SCRIPTKIDDIE PLAYGROUND
-if u know what i mean.

ANYWAYS PLZ HELP-I DONT NEED TOOLZ(i think so ) i NEED KNOWLEDGE.

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While helping you learn is something that many people here will help you do, including myself, but taking the attitude, "help me or else" leaves me with the impression that you feel that you are owed this knowledge.

Read, wRite, Recall, Repeat

Thank You HJACK and VERCETTI you r true friends, i would have still been searching if it wasnt for you,THANX;)
And i seem to have 75% of those bloody texts and e-books that says SWEAT BLOW ALL;)
on my PC

Sorry I mean not to have any attidude- for what have i to PROVE by doing so?

Nobody and no one owes me anything,not an explanation ,not a thank you not a even an Apolagy- no my point is that I am sure you DONT want scriptkiddies here and i am trying to PROOF how much we newbies REALLY NEED YOUR HELP in learning the right way,
in becoming a ethical hacker- not someone that was always given the finger- do you think he will listen to you when he knows all he wants to know and crackz system and gives HACKERS a bad name, but if you Educate him right,he wont disobay no he knows that YOU know the right way and he could always count on you (visa versa).

I am not requesting anything, no i am begging.

YOURS TRULY:HANDzCLEANx
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Here are some of my posts with tons of links to everything ....

http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=244250

http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=244216

http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=244069

http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=243809

http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=243909

http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=243872

http://www.antionline.com/showthread...442#post630442

Handzclean, one quick remark: Stop thinking like a scriptkiddie if you don't wanna be one. Hacking isn't about trojans or Crackerz, it's about learning new stuff, pushing known limits and exploring unknown territories.
Good change in attitude though.