I take back what I said, and sry I said it.
I'm usually not like that, just that I got frustrated.
but thanks for that inf you guys posted :)
Back to the way I was.............
[shadow]Quiet and ever vigilant[/shadow]
-CD
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I take back what I said, and sry I said it.
I'm usually not like that, just that I got frustrated.
but thanks for that inf you guys posted :)
Back to the way I was.............
[shadow]Quiet and ever vigilant[/shadow]
-CD
MR.CD there's a lot of info on this site that can help you learn, you just need to search for it. There's no easy way in gathering info but there's endless of info out there that will make your head hurt. You just need to concentrate on one thing at a time and don't expect to learn everything overnight especially when it comes to programming.
As for your attitude, this site is a peaceful neighbourhood, they will help to learn but they will not teach you to hack, so hacking info will not be given to you, so drop the attitude. There's a lot to learn out there that has a lot more to do with security than hacking and trust me you need to be secure in this day and age.
A lot of nice threads are posted with links, I will do a search and if I find them I will post them on this thread for you to look at...
Hope this helps...
IMO, the only real way to learn is through experience... when i want to learn something i either get the product/language/hardware/etc or at least get access to it... read the books/tutorials, thats' fine, and you want get far without researching, but but you won't get anywhere without practice/experience...
i dunno how old you are but there is always school/clubs...
When I was getting my IT degree, About.com helped A LOT! It's got a huge computer section.
That's true, get a packet sniffer and look at the packets, like park it on your network and send an email and then look at what it captures. Then look for clubs, they are full of some serious geeks that are eager to answer any questions. Looke for local windows technology groups and travel to their meetings. You might feel a little out of place depending on their attitudes but 2 things are a reality. 1, they are glad to have anyone there and 2, you are there for yourself anyway.Quote:
IMO, the only real way to learn is through experience... when i want to learn something i either get the product/language/hardware/etc or at least get access to it... read the books/tutorials, thats' fine, and you want get far without researching, but but you won't get anywhere without practice/experience...
You sound like a 12 year old that only wants to know how to do script kiddie stuff. If you are, then it's really not that hard to find the info you're looking for but you should at least try and find it on your own. I have no problem answering specific questions, but I hate questions like these where you just want someone to do all the work of finding things online FOR you. I would recommend using google.....perhaps you would have better luck if you typed in a phrase with quotes " around it bc that usually returns more specific results. I know you don't realize it, but what you're asking would take pages and pages of information to answer, and all we can really do is point you in the right direction. Also, cut the crap...you sound way too much like my manipulative little sister. Please have the guts to at least ask a direct question. I would actually prefer someone that just comes right out and asks "I want to know how to hack". That *might* not be what you're looking for, but please at least post a *specific* question like "where can I find a website about _____?".
[QUOTE] Originally posted here by MR.CD:\
(i.e. I know about protocols, but haven't a clue what one looks like. [QUOTE]
Ehhhh protocols are just things you want your connection to fallow by... (IE) use UDP or TCP... or first just use ICMP and ping a targeted internet protocal (IP) to make sure its online/reachable.
Personally I think this needs moved from here to the Roll Call section, this post sounds more like an introduction/hello this is who I am than anything to do with newbie security questions.
Mr.CD:\ Welcome to the club, glad you could join us. Please watch your step and your manners before you come in.
Cheers,
~AciD
Hey again MR.CD:\
Here is a pretty nice tutorial done by 'THE RADICAL' link it covers a lot a cool stuff you may be interested in, and there are a lot more wonderful tutorials and threads with links at the tutorial forum link that you might be interested in.
Thanks to the guys here they have made me a lot more aware of security problems, I hope their great work point you in the right direction.
Good luck and have fun learning, and according to tampabay420 there's nothing like experience....
Declaration #1: Thank you all
Declaration #2: Just wanna make it clear I am not asking how to hack nor do I want to.
Declaration #3:No attitude was intended with my last statement, so whoever took it that way, sry
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Then you are looking in the wrong places.Quote:
I am tired of wading through the crap on the internet, just to get to about 3 lines of info.
*albn fires up Google
http://www.planet-source-code.com/vb...t.asp?lngWId=3 This has many lines of C++ code for you to learn from, and this was the very first hit. Try a search yourself and see what you get... c'mon, you can do it :D
KaZaA has excellent docs in PDF for learning C++ and just about anything you can think of. Just search for "docs" and type C++, protocols, etc.. Oh, wait a second you said:
Hmm, if paper books do nothing for you, then electronic books will do you no good either. Heh, I tried :)Quote:
I am running out of money to spend on computer books.
Honestly, it gets really old doing for others what you can do for yourself. Nobody can learn this stuff for you and shove the knowledge in your ear. You need to ask yourself what you wanna know, take it one step atta time and ask questions along the way. It is ludicrous to come in here and ask for "anything and everything" when you need to start at square one.
Like the old saying goes: "Milk before meat"
Good luck
:D
How true this is. The only way to learn is to do. Sure you can read to get somewhere, but the best tutorial is the unwritten one. If you wish to learn about things do them. If you do not have 'in depth' knowledge about computers, networks, ports, netbios, et cetera. I would suggest you to hook up 2 windows computers on a LAN. Learn about basic networking through windows, learn the protocols used, tcp/ip, udp, et cetera, even if you just set them up using a router this will provide you with a lot of 'stuff' to do. Learn how to configure the router, set up one of the computers on the DMZ, learn about forwarding, use UPnP, dynamic/static routing, MAC address cloning, DHCP, et cetera. Then once you think that you understand everything there, switch over one of the boxes to a *nix OS. Then learn about interoperability across platforms. Then set up either box as a server, try setting up a web, ftp, smtp server through the router. Then set up a domain behind the router. Configure it both ways, once with a windows as the server, again with a *nix OS as the server. Then try setting up a VPN to dial into to access your domain across a phone line or just through a regular internet ISP. After you have learned 'in depth' about all of the following plus more, then start to analyze all of the services and protocols you have running. Start looking at how you can exploit or take advantage of the servers, learn how to identify holes and then how to patch them up. Start by using generic exploits but proceed to develop your own and understand how they work and how to patch them up. And after you understand all of that and more, go get yourself a job :).Quote:
IMO, the only real way to learn is through experience...
Apparently some people took offense to my earlier post in here. Anyway, I diddn't really mean it as a flame, but as one person put it to me "you totally slammed that dude". Sounds like something I'd say.... Anyway, sorry if I ofended you MR.CD:\ and um.....I think I'm going to stay away from saying ANYTHING negative for awhile :p . Not that big a problem for me, I don't usually say negative stuff anyway. I'd also like to say that I completely agree with albn's post^ but as for the "no money for books" part of your post: memory's links can help you there because many of the links take you to sites where you can find libraries of free online books. Thanks memory for sharing your incredible library of resources.
-keezel
I think I won't. Read up. If you cannot, there is nothing we can do.Quote:
I think I'm going to stay away from saying ANYTHING negative for awhile
heh
Well I don't want to start another flame war.. I seem to be good at that.... but this is just another example of people wanting someone else to do their work for them.... We all got here because we took the time to learn... we put in hours upon hours until we had ideas and theories down pat.. Why does everyone want us to hand them the knowledge that took us hours and years to learn.. Generic posts are completely useless.. I could sit here for days and type.. and not cover even part of the information that could be passed on. Everyone has mentioned it... but google is your bestfriend.. I suggest you search around on here and read the tutorials.. Find something that interests you and play with it... Then ask us specific questions.. those we can help you with.. we can answer them.. and lead you to a solution.. but when you post something generic, it's not going to get you anywhere...
Check out the reading room at SANS (http://www.sans.org/rr/) It has a good archive of articles related to information security. Also try The basics section at SecurityFocus (http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/basics).
Other than that I´d try and find a good introduction paper on TCP/IP.
That is probably enough information too keep you busy for a few months. Like with everything else, expertise comes from reading a lot, and practising, practising practising...
Good luck!