No Free Music??

I watched the news today and they said something about the music downloads
they say that people download 6 billion music files over kazaa each month
and they wanna eliminate the free music on web
That just sucks big time
What do you think??

i think its great the affect it has had on my bandwirth. scanning the last quadrant of the ip range im in now i find only 5 kazaa users compared to the usual 15-19.

i think the RIAA sucks, the recording ind. as we know it should cease to exist and kids that can't get what they want without an easy to use gui should not get what they want and stop screwing up the internet for the rest of us. they're only giving the riaa and the federal government a greater foothold into our lives.

I read the full page ad in the NY Times today. In a sense you can understand if I go into a store and shoplift the CD, I have denied financial gain for the store, the distrib, the musician, the tech crew, the songwriters etc etc. If I download it off the web without paying for it, I'm still denying payment for services.

Every industry has some form of revenue protection.

The RIAA pissed me off a few years ago when DAT tapes were the rage. They had suggested a "tax" on blank media to benefit "starving" musicians. What if I had used the tapes for data, would I have still had to pay the tax.

If I were musically inclined and was producing music, I would want to get paid for my efforts. This is one of those issues that we will all have to find the balance point and agree on it.

There was something on the news, that a 15-20 year old teen, went to jail for downloading a movie (from kazaa), the teen is staying in jail for 18 months JUST for a movie. Just wanted to share that ;).

Cya

I'm guilty of being an avid Kazaa user. However, I was checking out RoadRunner Rhapsody the other day, and really it's not too bad of an offer. The basic package starts out at 4.95 a month with limited usage to the songs...I think it's 6.95 a month for the full package, I could be wrong.

This is from the page I read:

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What is RHAPSODY?

RHAPSODY is the critically acclaimed music service that gives you unlimited access to over 20,000 albums right from your PC. Listen to complete albums, create custom playlists, build your own radio stations, burn your own CDs, and much more! Why should you try RHAPSODY? Read on!
The Most Music
RHAPSODY has more music available than any other service -- over 20,000 albums and 300,000 tracks from all five major labels and more than 100 independent labels.
The Best Listening Experience
RHAPSODY has been designed with users in mind, and critics have consistently rated it as one of the best listening experiences on the web.
Better Technology
RHAPSODY's patent-pending technology is optimized for broadband. This enables us to deliver instant, CD quality music (128 kbps) without waiting for downloads. It's an experience no other service can match.
Reliable Music Content
Since we get our music directly from the source, you always get what you expect. No bad rips. No mislabeled files. Just the music you want, when you want it.
Premium Sound Quality
Unlike some services, RHAPSODY delivers CD quality sound (128 kbps) through both the on demand and radio modes of the service. You'll get great sound no matter what you're listening to.
Flexible CD burning
As RHAPSODY subscriber, you can burn complete albums or custom mixes for a simple per-track fee. No confusing packages or additional subscriptions needed.
The Internet's Best Radio
With RHAPSODY, you can tune in to over 60 channels of commercial-free radio. Better yet, you can create your own stations based on your favorite artists.
Comprehensive Music Info
Music information is central to the RHAPSODY experience. We provide the best music information in the business, all carefully organized and at your fingertips.
Access From Any PC
Once you have an account, you can install RHAPSODY on as many PCs as you like. Access your music collection from anywhere in the world, no sync required.
100% Legal
RHAPSODY's music is fully licensed, so the artists you listen to get paid for their work and you can enjoy the music without wondering if you're breaking any laws, moral codes or artists' bank accounts.

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I believe it's 75 cents per song, which if you do the math for the average cost of a cd per the tracks on the cd...it evens out.


OR...you can go buy the cd, pop it in your cd tray and listen to it instead. But it's still not a bad way of playing it straight.

I have been deeply conflicted on this issue for quite a while. I'll admit I download music, but I would be more than willing to pay for the music I download -- so long as it's reasonable. As it stands now, I would have to pay $15 for a CD (of which, on average, only 10% I actually enjoy) that contained the 1 or 2 songs I want, or I can pay up to $7.00 for a CD-single. Ridiculous. I feel that music sharing is a way of streamlining the music industry. I don't want the fluff that is used to fill dead air on CD's that contain 1 or 2 good songs, but I am willing to pay a fair price for the music I enjoy. I think Apple's iTunes and Roadrunner's Rhapsody have the right idea. The EFF had this to say about the latest salvo by the RIAA:

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Quote originally from the EFF. Link found here
"It's plain that the dinosaurs of the recording industry have completely lost touch with reality," said Fred von Lohmann, EFF senior staff attorney. "At a time when more Americans are using file-sharing software than voted for President Bush, more lawsuits are simply not the answer. It's time to get artists paid and make file-sharing legal. EFF calls on Congress to hold hearings immediately on alternatives to the RIAA's litigation campaign against the American public."

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Give 'em hell, EFF. I've got your back.

Ok, I do download music from kazaa but that's only to listen if a band I heard of is good, when it is, I buy one of their cd's. But I wouldn't care if this free music dissappears.

My personal OPINION is that in some way it is wrong. But at the same time this is the thing I liked about Napster there were plenty of songs that I couldn't find any where else and only on Napster. At the same time there are bands that support these sights so I don't understand why the Federal Gvt. is being such a pain about it. The thing that is really pissing me off about this one

Enter Mad Whizkid2300
IS THAT SOME GENUIS CAME UP WITH THE BRILLIANT IDEA THAT YEAH WE ARE GOING TO DESTROY THE COMPUTERS OF THE PEOPLE THAT GET CAUGHT DOWN LOADING SONGS OFF THE NET. LIKE HELL YOU ARE I PAID A LOT OF MONEY FOR MY LABTOP AND IF YOU DESTROY IT I WILL LAUNCH THE BIGGEST LAWSUIT I CAN AND SUE THE LIVING S... out of the gvt.

Enter Whizkid2300
Sorry, this one really makes me mad thereis another thing that i will post on here I just have to finish reading the article get this a license to HACK. I haven't finished the article yet so I am not going to talk about it yet but I will be back and report my findings.

Whizkid2300

Hmmmm.

How does gore feel about the music industry?

A song by NOFX will give you the answer:

NOFX: "Dinosaurs Will Die"

Kick back watch it crumble
See the drowning, watch the fall
I feel just terrible about it
That's sarcasm, let it burn

I'm gonna make a toast when it falls apart
I'm gonna raise my glass above my heart
Then someone shouts "That's what they get!"

For all the years of hit and run
For all the piss broke bands on VH1
Where did all, their money go?
Don't we all know

Parasitic music industry
As it destroys itself
We'll show them how it's supposed to be

Music written from devotion
Not ambition, not for fame
Zero people are exploited
There are no tricks, up our sleeve

Gonna fight against the mass appeal
We're gonna kill the 7 record deal
Make records that have more than one good song
The dinosaurs will slowly die
And I do believe no one will cry
I'm just ****ing glad I'm gonna be
There to watch the fall

Prehistoric music industry
Three feet in la brea tar
Extinction never felt so good

If you think anyone would feel badly
You are sadly, mistaken
The time has come for evolution
**** collusion, kill the five

Whatever happened to the handshake?
Whatever happened to deals no-one would break?
What happened to integrity?
It's still there it always was
For playing music just because
A million reason why
All dinosaurs will die
All dinosaurs will die
All dinosaurs will die
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Punk Rock! Because we ****ing hate the music industry and are destroying it one by one and having lotsa fun! -gore
and as always: **** SCO.

I download to sample the artist, then if I like it i'll go buy it, atleast if i have enough money to. You'd think that the Music Industry would consider dropping the price of CD's a few dollars first and seeing if that helps.

CD quality music (128 kbps)???????????this is no cd quality music but mp3 quality!!!


Now if they would boost the quality to real cd quallity!

Although, now that I think about it...I wouldn't mind paying for the services above, but I really don't think I would be interested in the pay-per-burn. I mean, if you're going to drop the money that averages out to the cost of a cd anyway...go buy the CD, you get the nice case and the books with it, rather than just a plain cd. Now if you're into burning mixed cds...that's a different story.

I don't understand why people thinks this sucks so much? You are pirating artist's music...plain and simple. You are stealing...just as you would an application or a game that you download and crack...and don't pay for. I'm not a huge supporter of the RIAA, but to not see that stealing music is wrong is like a bank robber...robbing a bank bitching about how he doesn't like the laws regarding bank robbing. It doesn't make sense.

I've said before...I download music. But to say I didn't know what I was doing, would be a lie. I know full and well that I'm stealing when I do it. And nothing I can say will make that right. I agree with roswell1329 on the issue...companies are coming out with new an innovative ideas to legally distribute music. No, it's not free...and it shouldn't be free. But is a subscription service for something like Kazaa so bad if it makes it legal? I know when one of these services catches my eye, I'm going to switch completely over and ditch Kazaa altogether. I don't want anyone screwing up my computer in the long run, it would also decrease the chances for getting infected with something. And the cd's I've burned off of the net really aren't that great anyway.

what can big record labels do? I think the answer is quite simple: lower cd prices. Instead of
coming up with useless copy protection, which can be cracked or with which
many cd's don't work on every player, big labels should just price cd's
around US$ 5-7.
The perfect example that this will work is what Pearl Jam did: they
realeased every live album of their 2000 tour, and priced every double cd
at around US$ 12, which is cheap for a double, with that they beat the
bootleggers. The same thing can be applied to the whole industry. I still
buy cd's for the better quality of sound and for the lyrics, liner notes,
etc. But there are many people who are not real music lovers and don't
care about the quality, so they just dowload massively, therefore if any
given cd is priced around US$ 5-7, I am sure that everyone will go back to
buying cd's, even cd's in which people only like one or two songs, will be
purchased.
File sharing and cd burning are technologies that were embraced massively
mainly in response to crazy cd prices, for example in Mexico, where I
live, cd prices skyrocket, a cheap cd here is like US$ 20. The music
industry cannot stop the flow of technology, it can only accept the fact
that they now have competition, they have a huge disadvantage because
their comptetition is free, but then again the big advantage of a record
label is that they offer the quality product because many downloads are
of extremely poor quality. So if you offer quality sound at a lower price
people are gonna buy it! Volume of sales would compensate for the lowering
of prices. Maybe record executives think I am completely wrong, but if
they lower their prices they can bet that at least my record collection is
gonna grow a lot.

CD prices in Ohio really aren't that bad. I mean, if you know your cd doesn't have any bad words in it, you can go buy it at Wal-mart (cause their cd's are all censored) and they run around 11-13.99...and of course more for double and collections.

Or, you can go somewhere like Best Buy, which offer just as good prices as Wal-mart without the censoring, some at 9.99 and up. I don't think it's an outrageous price, that's not why I've burned cd's in the past...I burned them because they were free and because I can be a cheap bastard when I want to be, not because I'm rebelling against the prices out there. The prices out there are fine for places like Best Buy and Wal-mart...not somewhere like Sam Goody. Hell, my motto has always been, if it's free it's for me. Only until recently did I make the switch in a lot of my software and such, and started paying for what I wanted instead of pirating it. And now, if I can't afford it, I don't buy it. I don't expect people to bend to my expectations of prices when other people are buying it with ease. Now if no one was buying a product because it was too highly priced, I'm sure they would take that into accomodation.

So yeah, of course if you lower the prices people will be more inclined to buy and buy more cds, but that shouldn't be an excuse to why you burn cds and pirate music. Before Napster was even introduced, you were out there spending your money on cds. I know I was buying a hell of a lot more cds, some of which just got taken to the local Record Exchange and gotten rid of cause I only liked one or two songs. Not to mention the convienience of getting the music right off your computer...no driving around involved, except when you run out of blank cds.

johnny...ever considered buying off the internet?

quick question as another kaaza user...

I just got my 10mbps connection to my house, so as you can all guess this RIAA inquisition is putting a slight hamper in my willingness to download without being caught.

My question: What would the best way to stealth your computer be...

I have a lucent fiber to ethernet router, but i dont believe that there is any way to do any CLI to see if this router has the ability to do NAT. I guess I could get another router and put it behind my gateway...

Or install a proxy server??? I can get a static IP from my ISP for 3 bucks a month so thats not a problem...

Any ideas would be welcome...

Thanks!