Negging

Ok I have to post this one. Here we go.

I am posting to simply say.
People calm down.
Here is the problem, people are negging people into the ground just simply for the fact that they can. That being said.

Next I think negging a brand new Noob. To death is crazy. What I mean by brand new is someone with under 10 posts around ten you learn how to post and you learn the rules. But simply negging them until the get banned is crazy. If a person says something wrong or asks something they shouldn't at that point let them know. In a more positive way then, by Negging them.
Or if you can't think of a positive way flame them but don't neg just to Neg.

Sorry about the ranting but, I had to say that little bit.

Whizkid2300

your rant is duly noted, and appended to the large list of similar rants on the same subject :D

most of us feel the same way about it...

Yeah I know I just saw someone that had like one pos tunder there belt get Negged to death and get banned for asking a stupid question but they didn't know the rules. I just had to say something. It had finally got to me.

Whizkid2300

LOL....i got negged once for misspeling a word lol
And I "thought this is crazy"
People need to calm that down a bit
They should only neg people if they did something really wrong....like if someone asks how to hack

i think if we see a member whith 1 or 2 or even 3 posts under their belt we should not neg them but show them to the FAQ or explain the what AO is about .... if after that they still ask "how can i crack this how can i bla bla bla bla ? " we neg them...

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I am posting to simply say.
People calm down.
Here is the problem, people are negging people into the ground just simply for the fact that they can. That being said.

Next I think negging a brand new Noob. To death is crazy. What I mean by brand new is someone with under 10 posts around ten you learn how to post and you learn the rules. But simply negging them until the get banned is crazy. If a person says something wrong or asks something they shouldn't at that point let them know. In a more positive way then, by Negging them.
Or if you can't think of a positive way flame them but don't neg just to Neg.

Sorry about the ranting but, I had to say that little bit.

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I wholeheartedly agree with you, firstly because useless posts that should sink without a trace are getting undue attention. Why are people replying to some kids question about 'Hacking Hotmail' when there is so many other questions worth our attention floating about unanswered. The speed with which users can be banned is appaling, from now on I would advocate replying to lamer threads with a link to a hacking website and to leave it at that.

totaly right......try to lead them to the good way....if they choose wrong way (hacking,cracking...)....well then you do have a reason to neg them totaly to the point where they get banned.....AO dont need people like that....the kind that always asking "how to hack"

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Originally posted here by scriptkiddie18
totaly right......try to lead them to the good way....if they choose wrong way (hacking,cracking...)....well then you do have a reason to neg them totaly to the point where they get banned.....AO dont need people like that....the kind that always asking "how to hack"

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Treu but do we have to reply 15 times telling that person how lame they are even though they were banned withing fifteen minutes of posting after five or six seniors negged them and they are gone elsewhere.

I dont disagree with banning kids out to hack whatever but I do disagree with replying numerous times to such threads flaming them and keeping that thread in front of my eyes.

Well Ennis the only thing is that at times when people do deserve it that is like a breather for everyone. Basicly, this guy messed up let's flame them to death.

Whizkid2300

I once posted a reply to a thread that was not really related to the problem, and I really like how one of our members handled it.
dopeydadwarf gave me positive antipoints, but said this:

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Please pay attention. It was good avice, but it was not related to the topic. This is your warning

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It made me pay more attention to just what was being asked, and didn't hurt me, or injure my newbe pride.

It isn't just negging , it is wholesale browbeating . I don't read some posts now because 5 or so people jump on the person saying "were good your bad " "you a lamer....." .The fact is when someone new posts and gets a response of multiple people attacking them. You know what they think? they think the people are a bunch of self righteous *******S and in many cases i AGREE. If you wish to encourage people to be ethical politeness goes along ways .How many flys do you catch with vinegar ? . Do you really think some 12 year old kid will change his mind because a bunch of people gang up on him/her? The funniest thing about it is that half the time the attackers probably could not even answer the question they just want to say how holier than thou they are (who's the lamer in that situation? ) I would be so happy if people would just shut the ***** up unless they have something constructive to post. ....Ahhh i feel much better now

I think everyone should also consider that banning a newbie with only 5-10 posts doesn't really hurt them anyway....I mean what did they lose? Basically all they lost were the posts and a bad reputation. Once they're banned they can start fresh with a new name and no bad rep., plus they now know the rules and basic code of conduct so they'd be less likely to screw up again. So there's my 2 cents worth :)

I agree with Ennis about not posting on pointless threads becuase it just takes up bandwidth. As for neggin newbies, I was negged on my first post here and I wasn't even asking a stupid question. I was answering someone else's question and I wasn't far from the right answer. That taught me to change the way I posted and to do it quickly. Have you ever gone through the recently banned lists? These people get banned for good reason. 90% of the time, they were trying to pull off some bogus social engineering stunt and got caught doing it. We don't need people like that at AO and they don't really deserve another chance in my mind. I see AP's as a way to teach and I know from personal experience that if you're smart, you'll learn quickly about how to get along on this site.
-NeuTron

Neutron's exactly right. By far the most people that get banned are attempting to social engineer us into hacking for them/showing them how to crack or they are just doing something totally stupid. One guy that was banned a couple weeks ago was just doing stupid stuff like posting "weee" in a thread.....you can see why he diddn't last long. I have mixed feelings about people asking to hack though....not asking to crack and not asking people to hack for them...but people who just come right out and say exactly what they want to know and why. I usually give them a link or two and inform them of possible consequences but some people don't hesitate to neg them into the ground. Oh, and you now have my 35 cents worth :D