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I am a computer science student and had a little conversation with a friend of mine who hate computers.
A question was raised in the conversation by my friend that :
"why are u wasting your time to make progress for the technology that will in future lead to the destruction and damage of life and property."
What is your answer to the above question?
Tell your friend, that you love computers and have no intention of throwing your computer equipment out of windows, thereby avoiding all possibility of causing damage to life and propertyQuote:
Originally posted here by UrDaddy
technology that will in future lead to the destruction and damage of life and property."
What is your answer to the above question?
Tell your friend that the only way that your computer is going to lead to destruction of life and property is if he keeps saying things like that, upon lwhich time you will throw your computer at him.
Tell him that in the event that, that ever happens we will all be screwed together so have fun now why you can.
Computers to many are a part of life i could not live without a hook up. It's like crack man, once you start you can't stop. Anyone got a needle. LOL
By the way ask him does he have a car, tv, calculate all versions of technology that could very well take over the world.
Last thing tell him to stop watching those damn terminator movies.
Whizkid2300
The's the entire problem with today. When people think of the progress of technology, they think of computers, robots, and machines of that sort. Technology has been progressing since the dawn of man. When man developed the spear that was a technological advancement. When man created the microscope that was also a technological advancement. Technology has always lead to the destruction and damage of life and property. When Horrace Smith and Daniel B. Wesson created a lever-action pistol with a self-contained cartridge, they advanced technology but lead to damage and destruction. When Robert Oppenheimer accepted the position as the director of Los Alamos, he lead civilization to a huge technological advancement, however he himself stated, "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds." Like whizkid said cars, calculators, watches, cell phones, tvs, vcrs, dvd players, stereos, microwaves, they are all technology. Ask him to live a day without technology. He wouldn't even be able to use a toilet. I have to agree with whizkid, your friend needs to quit getting himself so involved with the Terminator movies. Perhaps you should remind him that the T3 uses extensive computer animation, and that the theatre in itself is a huge technological advancement.Quote:
"Why are u wasting your time to make progress for the technology that will in future lead to the destruction and damage of life and property."
The only reason that people think technology will lead to the end of mankind is because that's what they see on tv. Remember HAL from 2001 a Space Odyssey? Who knows what computers would be like if they had emotions? It's just like the misconception that if we ever did come in contact with another intelligant form of life(aliens), it would be hostile and we would have to go to war with it. Nobody knows and it is ingnorant to assume you know where technology is leading. Stick with your computer buddy, so far it has done more good than bad.
-NeuTron
Yeah, I have to say one more thing. Tell your friend to go into a forest without any clothes food or anything and see if, he would make it out alive. I doubt it you can't do anything today without a technological advance. **** not even the Amish can do it.
So unless your friend is an idiot tell him to just grow up.
Oh and for the destruction thing tell him that, if he wants to really see destruction, say somemore stupid stuff like that again. LOL
Whizkid2300
Either the friend is a LUDITE......or has been watching too many Terminator movies.
What about the thought of making the world better? Maybe something you invent, or research on could become the world peace maker... that ends all wars and brings the world together. Maybe that piece of technology would be something to clean up the air of the polution, find a way of not having to use gas in cars to cause polution, that might end world hunger, to end disease... what about all the good that can come from the technological advancements? There is a good side and bad side to every flip of the coin. But what comes from everyone doing nothing? How do we go from bad to go if we don't try because we are scared? As clearly stated above, where would we be now if it wasn't for the advancements already?
Just a thought...
~AciD
Dose your friend use electircity/live in a house/drive a car/every fly. If so tell him to STFU. Technology will not lead t othe end of the world, especaly not computers...sure advances have lead to distruction but they have also benifeted mankind...so if he wants you to stop useing computers tell him that you will as soon as he promises to live in a cave with no modern items.
Technology is a tool and like an tool it can be used for positive or negitive ends.
Im glad you said that becuase it brings up an interesting point. We already have ways to run cars withouit fossil fuels. The technology has existed for fifty years. The only thing keeping them from being produced are human politics. Companies like Exon have so much government pull that they can keep these cars from hitting the production line. Why? Because the compnay would tank and millions of jobs wold be lost. So here we are destroying the environment, simply because we don't want to lose money. Who is the culprit in that situation, technology or humans?Quote:
-NeuTron
Seriously dude. I don't get it. You claim to be 26, yet you spell worse than my 10 year old sister and the non-english speaking members of this forum. People attack d00dz for being a post whore, yet you seem to be way worse. This post is a prime example, all you did was regurgitate everyone else's comments. Hell, you reposted information today that someone else had already posted because you didn't like the way they had titled their information. You are a 26 year old network admin, however your actions make you appear as a 12 year old drop-out. If you are going to sit and be a post whore, do it, but you could at least have the common courtesy to attempt to spell words correctly, or hit that spell check button at the bottom of the page. Just to demonstrate, I've highlighted your errors for this little paragraph. I didn't even include grammar errors, just spelling and capitalization errors and typos.Quote:
Originally posted here by bballad
Dose your friend use electircity/live in a house/drive a car/every fly. If so tell him to STFU. Technology will not lead t othe end of the world, especaly not computers...sure advances have lead to distruction but they have also benifeted mankind...so if he wants you to stop useing computers tell him that you will as soon as he promises to live in a cave with no modern items.
Technology is a tool and like an tool it can be used for positive or negitive ends.
First off in comment to HTRegz , I probably spell and have about the same type of grammer as your 10 year old sister (or maybe worse). I was never that good in english class, even though through high school I studied my ass off and tried as hard as I could.
Anyway, back to what NeuTron said. There are lots of things out there that we could do to help the world out in general, which is technology related. It's true, human politics do raise a lot of issues. For the fact that some people like to make money, other people don't want to see millions of people out of work, and some just don't want to see an entire economy crash and burn due to technology advancements. It comes down to the thought of human interaction with the new technology... and who really controls what goes on.
Take for example the movie Terminator. WHY was the future so dark and grim, because of technology or humans? I'm all for computer/technology advancement, but it was a human who decided to take the an AI program and put it in place of a global attack/defense system that the goverment had setup. I would blame something like that more on the human than the machine, because technically the machine was learning and doing it's job.
Ok maybe that example is a little too shady. What about 2001 with the HAL 9000? Why did it "attack" all the people, because it felt threatened. It had enough thought and human like reactions to say that it was not going to let someone play with it or destroy it.
Though not all movies with robots/AI intelligence is even bad, look at the move Short Curcuit and Short Curcuit 2. Johnny 5 was a bad ass killing machine, who became good and very human like. Saved people's lives, etc. Even in the second one he was attacked and almost dissassembled, but still got the bad guy in the end and then actually became a sworn in US person. How about that though, robots being like humans and able to do more than a typical person could because it is a "machine" in one aspect.
Honestly you can argue the point either way about technology being good or bad. It comes down on to the basic fact that you won't know unless you try... what type of person are you, says you will try and see what happens from research and technology, or be scared of it and think ITS ALL BAD?
Just a thought...
~AciD
Thank you guys for posting helpful replies. I hope that this time I will be able to convince my friend that this technology is not your enemy at all. Infact, this technology is helping us in many ways, as discussed by all of you.
I will "regurgitate" to some extent AciDriveHB's post, meaning tehnology can be harmful solely in the hands of harmful people. Or ignorants, the same. Even if we could build artificial human companions - or other form of emotionally-capable AI - it is still a human that would input some sort of personality matrix. In the case of a 'rise of the machines', humans are to blame. In fact, humans are to blame for too many things.
As I say to those which blame their computer for things... "it's not the machine that's wrong. it's the human behind it"
cheers!
As some one mentioned earlier in this forum, it is like crack. You cant just up and not touch another computer. I know I cant. Been using computers for 12 years now and I wont stop. Cant stop!
Just to let you guys know, I have Windows Longhorn v.4015 on a ftp server complete with product key if some one is ready to wheel and deal or trade.