Jupiter Media Compromises User's Data Integrity

Greetings All:

First off, let me say very clearly and strongly to both Negative and MsMittens, the two moderators of AntiOnline, that this post was made in the CORRECT forum.

The issue that I'm discussing here is that of data integrity, which certainly falls under "Miscellaneous Security Discussions".

The Issue: Jupiter Media has started in-line advertisements. This is a practice which has gained heavy criticism by not only privacy advocates, but free speech advocates, and security professionals a like.

What is in-line advertising? Jupiter Media is now ALTERING YOUR POSTS to include advertisements in such a away, that it appears that the user making the post is the one advocating and endorsing the products that they are looking to promote.

Want examples? Watch what happens when I type in the following words. Keep in mind, that I am not doing ANY LINKING here:

business
computer
networks

See what I mean? It looks like good 'ol JP is linking all of you to advertisements, doesn't it? Never mind the fact that I think that gateway computers are pieces of junk, and wouldn't recommend them to ANYONE.

This is not only an annoying practice, but an unethical one, that CERTAINLY does NOT belong on a website dedicated to information security, privacy, and data integrity.

As a responsible member of the security community, I urge you all to write Jupiter Media, and urge them to stop this practice immediately. I also urge you all to boycot any advertiser that is being promoted in such a way by this site.

Relevent Jupiter Media Staff:
Gus Venditto: [email protected]
Scott Clark: [email protected]
Mitchell Eisenberg: [email protected]

Well this is a great example of why this place now sucks....I mean, they cannot even code right to place a dynamic Image and link into the top of ur post. Not to mention most querie times here used to be like 0.000000006 and now the fastest time is 0.59

I beg of you morons who now run this place to see the errors of your un thought out ways to correct this place before it goes down hill to nothing and burns. I mean your not helping the user base either, ive seen better oragnized pages on angelfire or geocities....Gimme a break

If they want to do this fine.....But for heavens sake do you have to draw attention to them by making them green? It draws my attention away from what im reading. Personally id leave the links black.

On a further note what all words can we expect this to happen with? It would be nice to know. Can we get a list posted somewhere?

Why is it that we have a new features forum if Jupiter is not going to use it to inform us of what changes they are making to the site? Perhaps our feedback would result in posts such as these not occuring. But hey why ask the us what we think when you can shove it down our throats right?

hrm.. thats just ****ing low.. i hadnt noticed apparently because of my anti-everything ware.. thanks jp..

Yeah, I was about to post about this.
I find this practice really disgusting. This is probably what will push me over the edge and make me stop posting and even reading AO.

Those huge adds, I can understand, but this, this sucks.


Ammo

Very true DarkSnake,

God, what the hell what's up with this site lately there has been so much of this crap going on.

Well thanks for the info JP...

--Peace :cool:

JP | ALL: I made a post about this recently (http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=246540)

I have ways to block the adwords. Fight the power :D

What if I wanted to link the work computer to another page?

The following words are ad-words:

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blade
servers
storage
sql
service
secure
\\.net
wireless
wan
voice and data
vpn
tunnelling
cisco
firewall
ip telephony
mobile office
networks
microsoft
crm
windows
server
workstation
workstations
cad
linux
gateway
hdtv
laptop
mobile
notebook
networking
pc
business server
centrino
business
desktop
desktop computer
desktop pcs
computer
laptop
laptops
wireless networking
solution
desktops
wireless network
lan
desktop pc
wireless
small business
small form factor
technology
productivity
public key
payment processing
secure certificate
secure connection
secure digital
secure id
secure socket
secure transactions
secure web server
revocation
security network
thawte
shopping cart
server security
security on the internet
security service
web security
web server
ssl
transaction
128bit encryption
authenticate
digital signature
miva merchant
online ordering
secure server
security certificate
security product
security server
security software
verisign
cybercash
card processing
credit card processing
computer security
data encryption
data security
digital certificate
digital id
e mail security
e-commerce
authentication
certificate authority
authorization
128 bit
128 bit encryption
128 encryption
128bit
accept credit card
pki
payment gateway
order processing system
network and security
intranet
electronic commerce
internet security
internet solution
security
payment
ebusiness
ecommerce
e-business
apache
activex
active x
network security
merchant account
java security
information security
encryption
java
java applet
java script
report
reports
profitability
project management
projection
projections
retail
revenue
system
services
solutions
inventory
strategy
marketplace
scm
collaboration
add-ins
integration
receipt
transactions
web
disaster recovery
distribution
data
customer
customer service
analytics
applications
budget
navision
microsoft business solutions
management
manufacturing
portal
product
product lines
order management
enhancements
expense
hosting
internet
host
var
program
programs
reseller
products
software
web hosting
dedicated server
webservers
network
email
email servers
managed
managed hosting
managed server
chat servers
download
downloads
e-mail

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http://www.aderkach.org/naoko.gif
that is a proximitron rule for killing the ads.

I don't see why anyone would expect anything different , jup media is a huge marketing company , they are all the same... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ uber alles

This was a mistake.

A bad marketing idea that was put in place before the people who manage the site were informed.

It was removed and will not return. Anyone reading this now will not understand what happened so I will explain: a hyper-linking program was installed that linked certain "ad words" in people's posts to ads off-site. It was de-activated as soon as I found out what was done.

Now that it was de-activated, those links have disappeared.

I apologize to anyone who had to endure it. Definitely a stupid idea.

- JupMan for Jupitermedia Corp.

well that put a fast halt to it!

Greetings:

I appreciate Jupiter Media's frankness in their response to this thread, and the quick actions that they have taken in light of it.

From running this site for almost 10 years, I certainly understand that advertising is what pays the bills (and believe it or not folks, AntiOnline was NOT cheap to run, heh). I'm glad to see, that Jupiter Media understands that they need to find ways to present that advertising to the end-user, in a format that they will be most responsive to.

(Wow, did I just say something nice? Hrm, I think I might have. I better look into it......)

I don't see what you are seeing:

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What is in-line advertising?  Jupiter Media is now ALTERING YOUR POSTS to include
advertisements in such a away, that it appears that the user making the post is the
one advocating and endorsing the products that they are looking to promote.





Want examples?  Watch what happens when I type in the following words.  Keep in
mind, that I am not doing ANY LINKING here:





business


computer


networks





See what I mean?  It looks like good 'ol JP is linking all of you to advertisements,
doesn't it?  Never mind the fact that I think that gateway computers are pieces of junk,
and wouldn't recommend them to ANYONE.

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Is it no longer active?
:cool:

Rcgreen, that's right, it is no longer active.

As I said, as soon as I found out about it, I insisted it be turned off.

Frankly, I was really pissed it was tried. A stupid stupid idea.

JP, thanks for bringing it up. I was not aware this was done until you put the message up.

(rcgreen, not sure how you formatted your post but it seems to be forcing super-wide lines)

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(rcgreen, not sure how you formatted your post but it seems to be forcing super-wide lines)

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I right-clicked the page, selected "view source". The HTML source came up in wordpad.
Then I copy& pasted it, using the "code" tag. I think it displayed wide because the lines
are long in the HTML source and the code tag displays the text without wrapping.
:cool:

I figured something like that.

You know you can edit your posts -- if you inserted carriage returns (just hit enter, not
tags) on those lines that are very long, you would fix the page.

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Originally posted here by JupMan
I figured something like that.

You know you can edit your posts -- if you inserted carriage returns (just hit enter, not
tags) on those lines that are very long, you would fix the page.

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done :cool: