Well... should WE bann him???

Guys,

There are two entities that can bann someone here, they are JUPM and AO members. I haven't been around the website lately and today i have realized that a member negged me using the name of other member. That negging was done before the new feature where you can see who negg or give you APs was implemented. "HE" negged me using Souleman's name in the time i had a "discussion thread" with Souleman so i could get more angry.

What this member has done is a big fault to AO rules and laws.

Please, I need your opinions about what to do so i can reveal the culprit name.

Thanks,

DKRR

Note: I have proves about it in my AntiPoints Center.

IMHO - normaly I would say report it
but the way it is going I dont think the new site owners are gonna care about ap abuse the way that JP did - so is a hard one cause you dont know if this was a 1 off or if this person has done it before

what you could do is create one of those confrence rooms (they r still available aint they?) then ask anyone who has got prooof they were neg'd bt someone pretending to be someone else to PM you for an invite - once they have sent u proof (such as screenshot) u could invite them
this way it would give a way for those involved to check instances that it has happened and decide if the rest of AO should be infrmed or not

v_Ln

I don't want to sound like an *******, but AO is a community and if we have a member that could do something so wrong then they are probably not a good member for our community to have. I would like to know who it is but maybe it's not my place to know. It's up to you Dark Raider.
-NeuTron

valhallen,

Your idea would be the more adecuate but thinking about it twice, how much time it could take to get people to a new conference room? While this lasts and we decide what to do, this UNFAIR member could do more of his "bad things" and so i'll just wait for a couple of more opinions before revealing the name. I think I will reveal it anyways, i'm just waiting to see if someone give me a good reason not to do it.

I have the screenshot ready...

DKRR

Personally, I don't think the name should be revealed. If you have a problem, first take it up with the actual member and if it can't be resolved there, go and PM Jupiter Media about it. They aren't nazis, you know. They will answer your pm and try to resolve things for you, it just takes time. They fixed it with Deb.

DR...you really need to stop worrying about AP's though. It's seriously getting old.

GreekGoddess,

Oohhh!!! Come on!!! Not you please!!! Why are you doing this to me? I haven't said nothing about APs here. I'm just saying what a member did putting Souleman's name instead of his own. That's breaking the rules, nothing to do with the neggin. Do you see any part of my thread where i complain about APs??? No!!! Come on!!! Not you... I can't believe it :(

You really hit me hard this time GG... :( :confused:

DKRR

Note: I have PMed JUPM many times and they have answered all and each of my PMs, i just think we can manage this case ourselves, that's all.

Ya I think Dark Raider is right, It's not about the Aps (how can he complain look at his AP status)
The main thing is to teach the person a lesson but dont ask me how...dont got no ideas now
Lol...Sorry

Dark Raider soule and I both had AP's signed by other people...I didn't have any signed by you, but I think soule did. Soule also got some signed by me that weren't from me. :rolleyes: I'd say at this point, just let it go. It's been long enough that it doesn't matter anymore, it can't happen anymore, and the whole AP thing is just old. I know you haven't been here for most of it, but it's been beat to death, and at this point it would be beating a dead horse. It sucks, but now you know who's been doing it, and you know it wasn't soule or I either one...and a lot of people know that now, which is what soule and I wanted...we weren't the ones doing it, even if our names were on it. :)

Guys,

I haven't been here lately so i don't know how the AP system is going and doing so... Debwalin's right. I'll follow her advice and so won't reveal the name here. If someone thinks they have the same problem we can deal with it by PMs.

You can still opine but i think that's all.

DKRR

Note: Thanks Debwalin :) and glad to know (after all ;) ) you and Souleman have nothing to do with these unfair situations.

G,day all, My idea on this would be for -DaRK-RaiDeR- to p/m the person
and ask him/her to admit to it and own up. Posting an appology and maybe
a reason as to why they did it. This will enable the community to weigh up
that persons contribution by their previous posts. If this is the only time they
have done this (yes it is wrong) and they have helped many here previously, i
don't think that they should be banned. Everyone makes mistakes. If they do
this i ask that all read their previous posts first to determine their value.
Just an idea from a neewb, i could be wrong.

If it really bothers you contact the user that did it and ask him/her why.
Just to note

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Screen shots can easily be manipulated.
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Should WE ban him

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You are breaking the rules here by calling for an alliance against a certain member.
I am curious who fooled you into believing you were negged by souleman because there are not that many members out there that can hit as hard as souleman does.

My suggestion:
Either contact JupMed or the user himself.
Maybe he wants to come out clean.

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Originally posted here by -DaRK-RaiDeR-
Note: Thanks Debwalin :) and glad to know (after all ;) ) you and Souleman have nothing to do with these unfair situations.

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Hahaha, do you have ANY idea how happy Soule and I were to have our names cleared? It seriously wasn't about the points to either of us, it was the fact that we were repeatedly, over and over, accused of something we weren't doing. Now people know we weren't doing it, and to be honest, it is a big relief. I can't tell you how old it got to hear our names linked in an alliance when we weren't in one. But it's all good now, and no one can accuse us of anything now. :D

noODle,

1 - Everyone knows a screenshot can be manipulated but everyone knows that JUPM can take a look at my AP Center and confirm if my screenshot is true. So... i still have a screenshot as a proof. ;)

2 - This is nothing close to an alliance, you know it's not. It's just opinions about what to do with a member that broke the rules.

3 - For your information, who said i thought that message came from Souleman? Souleman is smart enough not to do that and, fortunately, i could easily realize that it wasn't him. I sent an e-mail to Souleman about this before saying:

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souleman,

Just want to tell you that someone negged me saying:

"Your a pussy don't make fun of me -- souleman"

I don't think it was you cause i would have lost more than 70 points and i only lost 20. So, someone used your name to neg me here.

As i said, just for you to know.

Bye,

DKRR

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Souleman can easily confirm this and so... your words were useless here my friend.

Please, think about it twice before accusing someone of being "fooled" ;)

Thanks,

DKRR

Given that it can't happen any more due to recent changes, I'd just turn it over to JM and let them do as they please. I'm not being unsympathetic....I've had my name signed by someone (probably the same person who did soule and deb) and it sucks....but it can't happen any more.

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Who said I thought the message cam from souleman ?

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Well I think you then should have posted that right away.
If you knew right back then that it was someone who 'spoofed' the assignment name, why did not you report him back then ?
and I still think calling people to ban someone is calling for an alliance (you team up in that case bacause there is no other way to ban someone as users then to assign negs).
I think the best way to solve this problem is to still report him to the appropriate people.
well that is my opinion.

Am I missing something?
Surely an easy way to resolve this would be to give the guilty person a negative AP??

AP's dont have to be just for posts, They can be for good / bad behaviour too.

Cheers
V$D$

noODle,

WTF? :confused:

I have shown you a PM i sent to souleman and you still say i thought it was souleman?

WTF? :confused:

Do you read the posts or just answer without reading the whole of them?

I didn't report it back because i didn't know and wasn't sure who it was.

Still, "SHOULD WE BANN HIM?" it's not "LET'S BANN HIM".

DKRR

Note: Will you still make my repeat things? :(

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Originally posted here by noODle

Well I think you then should have posted that right away.
If you knew right back then that it was someone who 'spoofed' the assignment name, why did not you report him back then ?
and I still think calling people to ban someone is calling for an alliance (you team up in that case bacause there is no other way to ban someone as users then to assign negs).
I think the best way to solve this problem is to still report him to the appropriate people.
well that is my opinion.

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Originally posted here by noODle

Well I think you then should have posted that right away.
If you knew right back then that it was someone who 'spoofed' the assignment name, why did not you report him back then ?
and I still think calling people to ban someone is calling for an alliance (you team up in that case bacause there is no other way to ban someone as users then to assign negs).
I think the best way to solve this problem is to still report him to the appropriate people.
well that is my opinion.

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If you read my post it states:

You should have posted in the first post in this thread that you knew rightaway that it was not souleman. instead of

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today i have realized that a member negged me using the name of other member

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Would have saved some hassle.

Back to the topic:
Should we ban him ?
I think if he should be banned for this then it is something either the admins of the board should do OR you and souleman.
There was one other member who 'spoofed' his assignments (I wont post his name here) and AFAIK he did not get banned by the admins. The reason I don't know.
But I think you should either take it up with souleman or with the admins BUT that is just my opinion.
Perhaps other people think differently.

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One more thing:
If WE decided to get this user banned, the only thing WE can do to achieve this is to TEAM UP and do 'drive by negging'.
If we team-up we would be forming an alliance.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=alliance
Perhaps you could have better asked 'should I reveal the cheaters name ?'
It would be a better choice of words imo.
You can always decide to still make the name public (that is up to you) and let the members decide by their selves. (I know I lost respect for one member that did this and got revealed).

Anyway 'the choice is yours'.

OMG,

Some people really need to get a life. AP-System = not what it used to be, period.
You would think most seniors don't care anymore cause they already have their 11 dots.

I'd rather be banned myself than team up and form an alliance...

noODle,

OK :D I'll follow your advice and Debwalin's too. I have PMed the guy and will wait for his answer. If i don't receive a PM back from him soon i'll reveal the name so either JUPM or the community can decide or opine about what to do.

Thanks,

DKRR

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OK I'll follow your advice and Debwalin's too. I have PMed the guy and will wait for his answer. If i don't receive a PM back from him soon i'll reveal the name so either JUPM or the community can decide or opine about what to do.

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Why don't you just stop beating around the bush and post the name so the problem can be solved... ?!?!

jag291

Ok this is my suggestion post it here if your going to post it this is a room that Acid made the for problems with members.


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Your Private Conference Room is ready. It is room number 110 and is named Problem with a member?. Your key to get in is za2001ja33ko540. To goto your room click here

Another ugly, unneccessary thread.

Yeah but we have to get the politics out of the way.

This is the shear point that we come here for to argue over meaningless threads.

Whizkid2300

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Originally posted here by whizkid2300
Yeah but we have to get the politics out of the way.

This is the shear point that we come here for to argue over meaningless threads.

Whizkid2300

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You actually think that is the point? **sighs**

Ennis,

At least you could have posted your opinion.

"Unneccessary"... so it's OK we give away neggs with the name of others? :confused:

What are you going to tell me? That i CAN'T ask for the community opinion? I know i can go directly to JUPM but i can hear the rest of the members too. Be open please, you're a moderator.

Thanks and i'd like to hear your opinion. :)

DKRR

My opinion is that threads like these are pointless, as a senior member you should know that this kind of crap goes on. At one point people went around giving AntiPoints under my name and that was a long time ago, its old news and the reptitiveness of the boards is keeping older members away.

I promised a few that I would try clean up this forum and thats what I intend to do. This is not a matter for the community as such anymore as it is resolved by those who run the sites not the members getting together and negging the culprit. That is not the AO way and this thread makes it look that way so in my eyes it is an ugly thread.

I also have a pic of a forged AP assignment...so either it's the same person or the problem is with more than just one person. As for this post being meaningless, I find it to be a relief from all the computer questions that are going around....I enjoy reading, answering, and asking them but I also like an occasional break (usually I just go to "tech humor", but this is every bit as entertaining and interesting as a thread you would find there). I agree with Ennis about this looking like a "let's gang up and teach so-and-so a lesson", but I don't agree that it's wrong.....I feel more like it's the responsibility of the community. So there's my controversial opinion :D and I only hope nobody will disagree with it enough to neg me for it.

-Keezel

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Be open please, you're a moderator.

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I'll be open... thread closed.