Microsoft abandons Outlook Express

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might be the world's most widely distributed email client, but Microsoft has confirmed that it has no intention of further developing Outlook Express.



"[Outlook Express] just sits where it is," said Dan Leach, lead product manager for Microsoft's information worker product management group. "The technology doesn't go away, but no new work is being done. It is consumer email in an early iteration, and our investment in the consumer space is now focused around Hotmail and MSN. That's where we're putting the emphasis in terms of new investment and new development work."

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just check it out here : http://news.zdnet.co.uk/internet/0,3...9115680,00.htm

FINALLY... they seriously need to just package Outlook with all their systems, Outlook express was a joke, lol

I [glowpurple]highly[/glowpurple] doubt M$ packaging Outlook (Full) with Windows maybe some stripped down version

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Outlook express was a joke

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Actually, it isn't. OE is a streamlined version of Outlook, which performs better and is much more stable. How many home users actaully utilize all of the advanced functions of Outlook? Not many. Personally, I'd prefer seeing Outlook thrown in the can rather than OE but this seems to be tainted with the smell of Billy Buck$ and not what end users prefer.

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Originally posted here by strykerfenix
I [glowpurple]highly[/glowpurple] doubt M$ packaging Outlook (Full) with Windows maybe some stripped down version

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Wasnt that outlook express in the first place?

for e-mail I usually use Kmail, Ximian, Pine, Or Mutt.

I am glad that microsoft has finally given up on Outlook. I am sick and tired of downloading all these updates for the ever growing threat of security holes. Now that they discontinue work on the technology, does that mean home users are left with no defense to new exploits?

It looks as if they're not abandoning it after all...

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Microsoft says support for its stripped-down e-mail client will continue, but as part of future Windows clients.

Outlook Express, Microsoft Corp.'s free, stripped-down version of Outlook, is not on its last legs, contrary to reports published reports this week, Microsoft said.
But exactly how Microsoft will continue to support OE remains a bit murky.

OE currently ships as part of Internet Explorer. And Microsoft has admitted begrudgingly that it has no plans to continue to support a standalone version of IE going forward. The current and seemingly final version of IE for Windows is Service Pack 1 for IE 6. Future IE releases will be bundled into future versions of Windows only.

It seems the same is true of OE, although Microsoft isn't stating the situation as plainly as that.

"The word is that Microsoft will continue to ship Outlook Express code in Windows and will support it as needs of customers arise," according to a company spokeswoman, asked for comment on a published report on OE's demise.

The OE team is currently part of the Windows team, the spokeswoman added. She did not comment on whether Microsoft will continue to advance the OE product, or support only the current iteration.

OE isn't Microsoft's only free e-mail client. The company has been pushing its Hotmail client as its preferred free e-mail solution. For users who want full e-mail functionality, as well as client support for Microsoft's Exchange Server, Microsoft offers its full-blown Outlook client.

There is no information on any change in Microsoft's support plans for OE on the OE home page on Microsoft's Web site. The page states, simply, that users need to download IE in order to obtain OE.

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Taken from here: http://www.microsoft-watch.com/artic...1220165,00.asp

AJ

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I am sick and tired of downloading all these updates for the ever growing threat of security holes.

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Would you prefer the alternative which is not to patch the software and leave it vulnerable to exploits? I'm not flaming you, I'm merely fascinated with your point of view.

Outlook Express was always the "poor relation"...a bit like Microsoft Works vs. Microsoft Office................reminds me of an old joke about Outlook Express and its patented VTP technology................


VTP = "virus transfer protocol" :D

Cheers

Why not just use Yahoo! or something like that for your email purposes...?

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Why not just use Yahoo! or something like that for your email purposes...?

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One reason - shitty advertisements.
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Not when you know how to configure your browser and other good software....:)

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Spelling...:)

Remember, not everyone is 1337 and knows how to add host file entries and such. Also, I don't want to add other software just to read mail. Ofcourse you can use pine and aviod all of this! ;)

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I know, I know, we all can't be 1337.. :(

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Also, I don't want to add other software just to read mail.

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No.. thats why you use Outlook Express or whatever...;)

jag291

Actually you are not adding Outlook Express to a windows machine it comes with Windows whether you like it or not. As for Outlook it does a good job but I like Outlook Express because it didn't crash all the time like Outlook did. Always leaving instances of it running in the Process window in Task Manager and not allowing the messenger to close. Outlook Express fixed that. I don't have a favorite but I like using Evolution instead of Outlook and KMail instead of OE. I use these on my laptop that has linux on it. I use Windows for my main machine because it is what I play games on and Linux doesn't work well with my setup on this computer. To recap Outlook Express works fine and I don't want to go to yahoo or open my browser for that matter when I can open up an email client for my email.

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To recap Outlook Express works fine and I don't want to go to yahoo or open my browser for that matter when I can open up an email client for my email.

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Preach on brother! :)

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No.. thats why you use Outlook Express or whatever... ;)

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Muhwahahahahaha!! It's a conspiracy! :p

Actually, I do have pine setup on my *nix machines so I can send/receive e-mail while on the console.

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Actually, I do have pine setup on my *nix machines so I can send/receive e-mail while on the console.

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I use pine on my school account when I'm sending mail that I don't want others to read (at work). I'm fully aware that they can and will read my email at any given time. They must be bored... ?

Just ssh to my college account and I don't have to worrry about bosses snooping.

I like that better than the web based crap anyway. I can be sure that I won't be getting any web based viagra ads...

And what's wrong with viagra..!!!! I demand an answer...;)

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I like Outlook Express because it didn't crash all the time like Outlook did. Always leaving instances of it running in the Process window in Task Manager and not allowing the messenger to close

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"like outlook did"?.. The main bug with Outlook is it's it's insistance to open winword. Crash? runs 10-11hrs a day at work.. mb 1 locak a week IF I want to blame Outlook fro the problem..

Don't think I am saying that Outlook and OLEXP are great apps.. far from it.. each has its strengths and weaknesses.. we endup using what works best for the job..that is best comprimise..right

As for OLEXP not being upgraded/progressed on.. Oh well.. "So long and thanks for the fish" ..
I only recommend OLEXP for ppl with hotmail accounts who don't want to read their emails online..

cheers

Oh BTW: what is wrong with VIAGra?.. that was an excellent mobo chipset for the socket 7 processors!..

Outlook Rocks.... he he

With it's integration into Word, Excel, Project, Visio, and Power Point you can't go wrong (if you use those products) Not to mention the sharing of coworkers calendars, notes, tasks, journals and document tracking in which the software automatically picks free spots in everyone's schedule then sends out and tracks invitations and documents related documents to then update calendars. I could be across town and be reminded of an important meeting on my palm that I forgot or send me a notice that a task I set is overdue. Sheet, I would be lost without it. Sure this goes beyond email but it's nice to integrate it all, except when Exchange crashes :mad: . I do wish they would fix the multiple instance thing though.

Outlook Express sucks but it’s simple mail tool. Outlook shouldn’t be classified as an email client only. It’s so fcking powerful you could get a hard on.

My Blog.

PS. Yes Star office Rox2.

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Originally posted here by jaguar291
And what's wrong with viagra..!!!! I demand an answer...;)

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Never said there was anything wrong... but for someone who is in his early 20s... I'm in my prime! I don't need no stinking blue pills to keep me going... ;) Do they make them for females? Preferably in power form that will mix in with spaghetti sauce? My gf might be able to use something like that... LoL

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Originally posted here by phishphreek80


Never said there was anything wrong... but for someone who is in his early 20s... I'm in my prime! I don't need no stinking blue pills to keep me going... ;) Do they make them for females? Preferably in power form that will mix in with spaghetti sauce? My gf might be able to use something like that... LoL

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I'm in my mid-teens and a little extra boost never hurts.. ;) If you want something for your chick, check this: http://www.walesuniversities.com/ or this: http://www.privatefun.co.uk/moreinfo.asp?info=XE653 (Not for kids...) :p It all depends what she prefers to get going... hehe...

jag291

jaguar291: LoL too funny! nah, she doesn't need any of that... I was just joking. :D

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Originally posted here by gore


Wasnt that outlook express in the first place?

for e-mail I usually use Kmail, Ximian, Pine, Or Mutt.

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pine ownz... i used it as my default mail client... have done for about 3 years now :)

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Originally posted here by phishphreek80

My gf might be able to use something like that... LoL

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a gf.. /me drools

This will only mean that OE, IE and all are gonna be integrated into windows. its gonna get more bloated and u gonna need 1gb of ram to run it.

I wish they would just release a stripped down version of windows and leave us to decide what else we wanna put in.

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Originally posted here by Plastic
FINALLY... they seriously need to just package Outlook with all their systems, Outlook express was a joke, lol

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You've got to be kidding - Outlook is one of the worst peices of software I've known.

It comes with so many security vunerabilities that the only way to secure it is to hamstring it so badly you would be better off communicating with two tin cans & a length of string.

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Originally posted here by phishphreek80
jaguar291: LoL too funny! nah, she doesn't need any of that... I was just joking. :D

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Hey, get a room you two ;)

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Originally posted here by jaguar291
Why not just use Yahoo! or something like that for your email purposes...?

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IMHO, Web based email just doesn't cut it. Especially since the fascists started charging for extra storage spage and extra this and that and blah blah blah....Besides, I enjoy using Outlook. I like the challenge! :D

Hehe, you guys have something against elm/mail/mailx?

OE was something end-users could use right along with IE since both were hand-in-hand. Sure it was easier for them, but because of the integration of IE/OE/explorer.exe/etc, vulnerabilities quickly overcame the gee-whiz-neato factor for those that are computer-savvy. Sure, updates are great, but to update an update that updated a fix to fix a hole that was caused by another update of another update...that gets old.

Webmail seems to be the way to go these days, however, security is wholly then dependent on the web server and the security protocols/etc.