Torvalds Slams SCO

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August 21st, 2003, 04:41 AM
phishphreek

Torvalds Slams SCO

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They are smoking crack.

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So the SCO people seem to have a few problems keeping the truth straight, but if there is something they know all about, it's hypocrisy.

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Hey, until they can be bothered to show something real, I don't think it's even worth discussing.

Read the whole article... HERE!

Another article worth noting... is an analysis of SCOs slide presentation in Las Vegas.
Looks like that site has been overloaded... or slashdotted... here is a mirror.

Can you say... "THE HEAT IS ON!!!!!!"
August 21st, 2003, 04:46 AM
DeadAddict

Heheh I was waiting for Linus to say something about this SCO bullshit. I think Sco should just shut up and crawl back under the rock they came out from under :D
August 21st, 2003, 04:49 AM
HTRegz

I'm still upset that my school teaches their *nix courses using sco. It's gonna be rather disappointing this year to have to log on to a shell and see sco (server name being sco.cst.*.ca)
August 21st, 2003, 04:54 AM
Orangeguy

Well just think you can flip them off everytime you see the name and cuss at them to your hearts content Hehehe :D
August 21st, 2003, 06:02 AM
gore

Well, you could give ME access to a SCO server ;)
August 21st, 2003, 03:14 PM
wassup

well the thing is sco cant sue the linux kernel directly, because as i know it linux was completely written from scratch and all the gnu tools are _NOT_ native to it.
August 21st, 2003, 04:08 PM
r8devil

no matter what the technical arguments are i sometimes worry that SCO might win bcos it all comes down to who has the better lawyers. Hopefully, IBM and whoever is joining them in the fight get a good team to put SCO in their place.

All this IP stuff is a real pain sometimes. I think there should be a limit on how long things are supposed to be protected if not there is no way to advance if the original owner hangs on to it for dear life. I bet there are some good stuff out there that is not progressing as it should be bcos the IP owner is holding on to it so tightly that no one can improve or make anythign that even closely resembles it.

Thank god for the GPL. Even if things are protected, they should be for a reasonable amount of time. With technology moving so fast, the time frame for IP to last should be quite short so that progress can be made.
August 21st, 2003, 04:38 PM
souleman

There is a time limit on how long its protected. If it was written since 1978, its 120 years. (or 95 years from publication date) Not sure if it is from before 1978. I don't remember the time on that cause I haven't looked at copywrite information in a long time.

And by IP do you mean Internet Protocol...which they are working on improving right now (see IP v6) or do you mean Intelectual Property?
August 22nd, 2003, 06:33 PM
Vorlin

As far as I'm concerned, SCO brought a lot of trouble down the pipeline when they started this whole frivolous lawsuit into being. You have to have a SERIOUS issue and better bring hardcore evidence when you decide to take on someone like IBM/etc. IBM's counter-suit is insane and I'd be so worried if I were on the lawyer board for SCO. All it is to me is a method to have people buy licenses. Not because they actually have a good OS (I'm actually ashamed to have said I worked on SCO), but because nobody buys their stuff anymore. Too bad, so sad, cry me a river...
August 22nd, 2003, 07:06 PM
gore

Hell with taking on IBM, Id be scared shitless to see my phone bill when I took after the Linux people. If your a good enough hacker to write an OS or even help with it....Heh, SCO CEOs are soooo ****ed.
August 24th, 2003, 02:43 PM
breakology

I read this article last week:

SCO's Own Evidence Undercuts Its Linux Intellectual Property
http://www.internetweek.com/story/sh...cleID=13100927

The only thing SCO is going to get out this court battle is negative publicity.
August 24th, 2003, 05:46 PM
er0k

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Originally posted here by gore
Well, you could give ME access to a SCO server ;)

watch out that you are using the word "server" its no doubt copyright (C) SCO *******s Inc.
August 25th, 2003, 04:46 AM
gore

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Originally posted here by er0k

watch out that you are using the word "server" its no doubt copyright (C) SCO *******s Inc.

That reminds me; today I set up my first network :)

(Doesnt seem like alot to anyone but we all started this way Im thinking).

I had to get up early and go to work today and when I got out after a long as hell 9 hours, I got home to my room totally changed around, I was shaking with rage. So I went for a drive to calm down... (I know what you might be thinking, great calm session,drive around in Michigan where people dont know how to ****ing use a turn signal right? heh) Anyway, I went to a store and saw a router, I wanted one but havnt had any money since I stopped doing my "other" job that actually got me cash.. Besides I was eating my stash ;) Anyway, I have money now so I grabbed a router for like 70 dollars and an extra Cat5e cable, and not only was I damned proud to find a store with routers at 10 PM but I was damn proud when I had the entire thing set up in about 5 minutes.

Tommorow I have to get up EARLY. I have to go to the college and get my books and I start school too. Soooooo, I wake up early, drink coffee, go to school store, get my books, go home, get more coffee, go to my class, and start up my 4th semester.

If anyone is interested, Im taking:

C++ Programming.

TCP/IP.

And Wide Area Networking.

I also want to try for another loan because well, I wan a Laptop badly. It would help alot in class as I can type way faster than I can write, and if youv ever seen my writing, its horrid. Also I want to get a SERVER so I can set up a leet network (heh, Half joking). Anyway, Im going to play a bit and try breaking into my **** and then off to bed, where Ill be in a place where SCO SERVERS burn like cigars and GB net runs free like...A LINUX SERVER.

hHeh, wonder if SCO is asking there lawyers about legal action against me yet. And here I thought Microsoft owned the word server...Wait scratch that, it was Microsoft SERVERS GET OWNED. Teehee.
August 25th, 2003, 05:14 AM
r8devil

based on what i have read so far it looks like SCO screwed up big time. They look like they just tryign to scare people off Linux probably with the help of M$ cos it really smells like it has M$ grubby hands all over it.

the only thing that worries me is that they might have something up their sleeve that we havent seen. hopefully not. once this is done it'd be great if IBM countersued SCO and make them and all who hope of scaring consumers in a similar way get their facts straight before doing all this.
August 25th, 2003, 08:03 PM
wassup

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watch out that you are using the word "server" its no doubt copyright (C) SCO *******s Inc.

M$ tried to copyright the word windows lmfao....they got thrown out of the supreme court :D

anyways its kinda a contradiction that sco has their own open source linux distro while they are suing linux...whats next....MS linux?! :D
August 26th, 2003, 12:15 AM
devilmech

Ask me, it's just another reason to use Linux. If all the big companies see Linux as THAT much of a threat, then Linux must be doing something right.

That something being making freely available something that should never have been private anyway
August 29th, 2003, 03:14 PM
Crunch

ROFLMAO; Honestly this is far beyond sad.. After reading what I've saw on that.. Torvalds was right, THEY ARE ON CRACK. I mean you know you're shot in the anus when you're running linux and trying to shut it down. I mean honestly why were they snooping through the code anyway if its so "BIG" If it was taken without permission or grants, obviously I don't think it would be that open would it?