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Before ya start negging me or flaming me....read this carefully.
Installed OUTPOST firewall (www.agnitum.com) on Windows 2K and immediately started getting PoP-Ups from "8ad.com". (Usual stuff - "Clear your computer of ......" "You are Being monitored")
Went through with Ad-Aware, SpyBot, X-Clean and nothing was found. (getting weird here)
Uninstalled OUTPOST firewall......and PoP-Ups stopped.
Would someone else please install Free version of Outpost firewall.....and see what happens ?
I'm not going to install it, just to see if it will screw anything up :), but I searched Spychecker, and didn't find it there. I also read all of the privacy disclosures, at their site and found nothing.
I'd just recommend another firewall, and forget about Outpost, if it seems to be causing you problems. Try ZoneAlarm or Tiny Personal Firewall if you want a free one.
Also, get a pop-up blocker, or use a browser with PU blocking, like MoZilla firebird,regular Mozilla, or Opera.
Good luck
Corn
Hi Dcongram,
Hows it going mate? pesky freebie firewalls.
A couple of questions.
Are you using ICS? (Internet Connection Sharing)?
Did you download the new or old version of Outpost?
Ok as far as I know ad-aware and spybot do not neccisarily clean all Viruses.. and as far as I know X-Clean is a crappy non-recoverable disk formatt application?!?!wtf?!Quote:
Went through with Ad-Aware, SpyBot, X-Clean and nothing was found.
Have you run a decent av scanner over it? Have you updated it recently?
Tell me what you find mate.... did you try a different firewall, was it any good?
Cheers :idea:
V$D$
maybe the trouble was in your computer before you installed outpost. try running a spyware remover like ad-aware
Problem 'found' and solved.
It's NOT the OUTPOST firewall. It was Internet Explorer 5 running on Win 2K.
Upgraded to IE6.....and it stopped.
Too weird.
Thanks for checking guys !!
Hi dcon..
I have just downloaded it and will try it on this WinMe box...............got a 2KPro box next to it, but haven't configured the broadband yet............tomorrow's a bank holiday, so I will get some time :) [for those who might not know...a "bank holiday" is a public holiday in England...........it is an interesting bit of history in British labour laws...but too long to explain here :) ]
My first thought is that if you are using the "free" version, it is probably supported by advertising?.....have you tried thr professional version trial?
Cheers
Sorry mate, i was typing as you were posting...........beware my friend!!!
"Little problems that go away of their own accord, frequently return, having grown in stature in their absence"
alright, even though problem is solved, just to make sure that no one ever has this problem read this:
Outpost firewall has a feature under Opitions->Plug-Ins->Adds->HTML Strings where you can add the name of an add or the URL of the sites that you dont want to allow (in this case it would have been "8ad.com"). Then Outpost searches the page before it is loaded and removes all of the adds that match the string of letter that you entered in the HTML strings section to be blocked. I have been using Outpost for a while now and i think that it is a very good firewall (considering that it is free). Also:
There are no lame banner adds on Outpost or pop ups that come along with it.Quote:
My first thought is that if you are using the "free" version, it is probably supported by advertising?
Anyways i hope this post clears things up, PM me if you have more questions about Outpost Firewall!
Had me worried there for a moment. Cos I know quite a few ppl using Outpost cos its free and if this is a problem then its quite worrying that a firewall can result in this. But luckily its not the case.
But what i dont understand is why is IE5 causing this. Or is IE6 helping by blocking it instead.
Any ideas
IE5 doesnt come along with a built in pop-up blocker, so there is no way to stop pop-ups (unless you clear your cookies folder or whatever and you download a pop-up blocker program). I dont know if IE6 has a built in pop-up blocker. Does anyone know? Sorry, i switched to Mozilla a while back :) and i have never seen a pop-up sinceQuote:
But what i dont understand is why is IE5 causing this. Or is IE6 helping by blocking it instead.
EDIT: Wow! I just found an old feature of antionline (new to me) that allows me to see who is looking at what. Tedob1 you were look at this thread at about 7:11 pm Pacfic time. Is this accurate, or is this feature of antionline.com broken? Anyways, it would be really cool if you could see who is doing what on antionline.com (sorry for going a little off topic on the edit, but i think this is amazing :))
I know that IE5 doesnt come with a pop up blocker but what i dont understand is why IE6 seemed to have removed the pop up when IE6 also doesnt come with a pop up blocker to my knowledge.
Also I have checked with some other users of outpost and its confirmed that its not the cause of the pop ups from 8ad.com
*fart*
My best advise is ....troubleshoot the damn issue before calling a product bad. Not to mention advising people to switch to a pile of sh*t product like ZA.
Yes, I'm back when school doesn't interfere....
Como esta Usted? muy bien, gracias.
hahaha. school sucks.
It must be IE5.....
I blew away the Win 2K and reloaded (including Service Pack 1 & latest msblast patch) Loaded OutPost (including the pop-up stopper) and
Same thing ! Pop-ups show immediately.
Upgraded to IE6 sp1.....NO Pop-ups.
But SP4 is already out. Just out of curiosity, why r u still using sp1.
On the IE5 upgrading to IE6 sp1 solving the pop up problem. Does anyone have any idea why this is so. A fresh installatio n of the OS even with IE5 shouldnt have any pop ups if u have a pop up blocker. And IE6 suddenly solving the pop up problem seems rather weird to me. I just wanna find out why.
This is killing me, I just gotta know why. I tried duplicating the same situation and the problem doesnt occur with Outpost installed. Any one got any ideas why this is happening with him?
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r8devil....was trying to do this quickly......and my Win 2K CD is SP1.
I just didn't bother loading SP4 for this 'test.
If this puter was to become a production machine, or workstation; I will load SP4
This post piqued my interest as i'm a fan of outpost. So i did a little bit of research. The 8ad website has an uninstall tool hidden way down at the bottom of their website for "winshow". Winshow is the main parasite used by them and 00hq. Uninstall programs for spyware by the companies that put them there get on my nerves (i always think they shouldn't have put it there in the first place) and i'm paranoid about what they might actually do. I mean, these are disreputable organisations to begin with as far as i'm concerned.
Anyway, to manually remove, do the following:
"Open a DOS command prompt window (from Start->Programs->Accessories), and enter the following commands:
cd "%WinDir%\System"
regsvr32 /u "..\winshow.dll"
Restart the computer and you should be able to delete the files winshow.dll, winshow.cfg and dict.dat from the Windows folder."
<removal procedures creditted to the doxdesk website>
HTH
Hi,
sorry for the negative post, but I did as I said and could not replicate the problem.......I will try again tomorrow on an old PI/133 with IE 5.5 (or 5.1?)..........this is an odd one?....it worked just fine for me...........perhaps some scumware got onto your system?
Cheers
BobMcFee......
winshow.dll & winshow.cfg are on the system !! Damn - I thought Ad-Aware & X-Clean would have found them. I noticed them on another computer some time ago, and removed them.
Guess I didn't look over the Win 2K box very carefully.
Thanks dood !!
I have the same problem. I was able to remove the winshow files but after rebooting my system SpyBot, Ad-Aware, Hijackthis and CWSshredder all find 3 edited registry keys. My IE startpage is set to searchv.comQuote:
"Open a DOS command prompt window (from Start->Programs->Accessories), and enter the following commands:
cd "%WinDir%\System"
regsvr32 /u "..\winshow.dll"
Restart the computer and you should be able to delete the files winshow.dll, winshow.cfg and dict.dat from the Windows folder."
Any suggestions?
I'm running win 200o and IE 6
Hi sheik.
Gotta run them all in safe mode these days..........the scumbags are getting a lot smarter.
When that fails :D you need to look at your startup script files............can't remember what they are on W2K, but look at them all win.ini etc. EVEN the ones not supposed to be normally used by the OS.
Its sort of "reverse social engineering" or "hide in plain view"..........simple, but not where you normally look?
Hope this helps
Cheers