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Hi! Some where in this site i read about tracing ip of e-mail sender through header in thier e-mail address. Well i got such a program naming e-mail tracker pro from visualware.com. Well all i want to know this method will tell us the true ip of other person or give us the ip of site server from which he is sending the mail, forexample i've ac account in hotmail and when someone will try to find my ip, what would he get? my ip or hotmail's server ip? Hope for some good response. till alvida
first of all be clear about true IP???
well definatialy ur IP if u are not using any proxy. If u are using one such proxy...then the IP will be of the proxy server. The header contains the info from where did the mail originated...ie ur IP.....and all the servers it passed through before being recieved ultimately by the end user.Quote:
Originally posted here by naughty_prince
forexample i've ac account in hotmail and when someone will try to find my ip, what would he get? my ip or hotmail's server ip?
http://www.stopspam.org/email/headers/headers.html
It depends on how a person sent the email... They can use remailers to hide their tracks... or simply finding an open relay... or using a proxy... or many other ways...
He will just Say that i want a pair of scissor
Well i have got one question
Can we back trace the chain from where the emails actually
originated...
You may want to take a look at the link I posted above... and then answer your own question.
if the person dint used a proxy server .. otherwise u stand to get to a "dangling pointer"
The only way to get the IP of a hotmail user is via a subpoena. Their pc's ip address is not in the email message.
Well so u mean that one can't trace my ip using my hotmail e-mail address. RIght? But in the fuctioning of email tracker (a software by visualware) they claimed that it could tell you the pc's ip of sender. Now who is right here?Quote:
Originally posted here by j3r
The only way to get the IP of a hotmail user is via a subpoena. Their pc's ip address is not in the email message.
If someone uses remailers as phishphreek stated it would be real hard to track.
The more remailers the email travels threw the harder to track. They strip your headers and replace them.
People use programs such as:
potato:
A freeware DOS software package which operates well in all versions of Windows. This remailer utility provides for the preparation of anonymous and nym messages, including MIME mail, attachments, and automatic PGP signing and encryption. Potato also includes the Nym Editor, which allows for sophisticated nym account configurations, including multiple reply blocks.
jack b.nymble:
quicksilver:
using remailers such as melontraffikers,cyberpunks,freedom.gmsociety...to name a few.
and Creating a nym account, pgp key, using a long chain of remailers, your damn near "anon".
a plus to these services is,if you post messages in newsgroups you can have a unique email address(nym account), and stay safe from weirdo`s right clicking your message and seeing all the juicy details of your headers
Completely wrong.Quote:
The only way to get the IP of a hotmail user is via a subpoena. Their pc's ip address is not in the email message.
Completely wrong.Quote:
Well so u mean that one can't trace my ip using my hotmail e-mail address. RIght?
Don't send messages to someone if you don't want them to know who you are. If you want to hide your identity then you are doing so for a malicious purpose.Quote:
from the3ntropy here
X-Originating-IP: 366.366.366.366
Yes they do get your IP, hotmail is not anonymous.
I second The3ntropy....
cheers
:)
Quote:
Originally posted here by The3ntropy
If you want to hide your identity then you are doing so for a malicious purpose.
Why assume that someone wanting to hide the origination of their email is for malicious purposes?
That is narrow minded thinking.
bongpilot > If so, then give me one expample situation in which you would wish for someone that you are sending an e-mail message to, to not have your IP address. Even one, one legitimate reason, and then I will gladly describe the process of how to use an anonymous proxy and open re-mailers to hide your identity.
What if you need to email someone who has explicit computer/hacking knowledge and you don't want them toying around with your true ip? They may be your "friend" but you never know.Quote:
bongpilot > If so, then give me one expample situation in which you would wish for someone that you are sending an e-mail message to, to not have your IP address. Even one, one legitimate reason, and then I will gladly describe the process of how to use an anonymous proxy and open re-mailers to hide your identity.
Just a thought.
Well look at me, aren't I a stupid git? Yeah, hotmail handily provides your ip address (dicks).
Bongpilot is quite correct about the remailers. With a little luck, they're even subpoena-proof.
bongpilot > If so, then give me one expample situation in which you would wish for someone that you are sending an e-mail message to, to not have your IP address. Even one, one legitimate reason, and then I will gladly describe the process of how to use an anonymous proxy and open re-mailers to hide your identity
The3ntropy,
example #1. I like to be anonymous on the internet. I set up a nym account because i like to participate in newsgroups. It allows me to have a very unique address. In these newsgroups there are some shady people whom i don`t want to broadcast all my info. to a the right click of a mouse. I am smarter than that.
As to your wanting to teach me the finer points of proxies and remailers. thanks but i`ve read document after tutorial after document about both. and am comfortable with my choice to be anonymous with my email.
I relize nothing is Truly anonymous, if ya really want to track an email threw a remailer. your going to have to have some good resourses and alot of time to trace these hops that the email took threw it`s journey. The average joe will not know how to do this.
This more than likely includes you.
http://quicksilver.skuz.net/ lots of info here on this topic.
If you are that worried about e-mail'ing someone who would maliciously use your IP address, you should not e-mail him or her in the first place. You would not walk down a dark alley late at night and start talking to someone standing in the shadows; don't do it on ther internet. Common sense is not that scarce; although it sometimes seems to be.
Dude i may be overstepping my boundries here being a "newb" and all. But i don`t agree with your "be afraid who ya talk to " ideas.
privacy is a must with me. I don`t have to worry about whom i exchange emails with because i take precautions and use good judgment"common sense".I`m not going to continue to debate that with you.
The internet is a cool place, but there are all types of people with different motives.
I for one take no chances with my privacy. hell, you could get mad at me for disagreeing with you and look for ways to get my ip...never know.right?