anti abortion acivism

So in florida today they are exacuing a guy who murdered abortion doctors. He has shown no remorse and has claimed that god will reward him for doing the lords work.

How is this man difrent then the hijackers who hit the world trade center? Why are we not calling for all southern baptists to die bucause they are all terrorists? How is it that as a society we can seperate this loser form the rest of christianity but we cannot seperate the hijackers fom the rest of islam.

As for comments on people calling the hijackers heros, plenty of people in this country consider these doctor killers heros, I guess we are not all that difrent in our hatred and intolerance.

Those are some of the same thoughts I have on the subject. However I don't get the impression that most Americans correlate the hijacking with all people of Islam. I think is more of a religious hatred and the hijacking is used to cover up the real intentions.

I heard the guy on the news. He is a mirror to the same people we were aghast at yesterday in the discussion of the UK celebration of 911; an exact carbon copy. But I bet some people are saying "Amen brother"

for the first part, most americans supported this war in iraq as a war on terror even though hussain had nothing to d owith 9/11

I agree compleatly with your second point.

I wasn't correlating my comment to the war, just a general consensus on what I percieve the overal attitude of American sentiment to Islam is. The war is targeting specific terrorist groups believed to have perpetrated the attack. Unless you are under that impression that America is indeed targeting Islam and not just terrorism. Or that the United States is only doing it for oil. Or that George is finishing off some sort of family vandetta for his father or any of the other BS people subscribe too.

So how is iraq conected t oalquadia? Beond the obvious, that alqudia was origonaly formed to oust Hussain.

You are saying that Al-Qa'ida has sole purpose and was formed to oust Saddam Hussein ?

/edit I see your point about the direct link to 911 though.

Having an abortion is a personal decision,usuly a chicks,not some d00ds.
Who gave him the right to go and kill people??
Kinda ironic dont you think. He is going killing people be cose he is agains those that "kill" baby's / fetuses...
hehe funny the irony of that...

Nightfalls_Girl

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You are saying that Al-Qa'ida has sole purpose and was formed to oust Saddam Hussein ?

/edit I see your point about the direct link to 911 though.

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Remember alquida is fundimentaist, hussain is secular, alquida was fromed in the early 90's right before golf war one as a force t ooust hussain and protect the saudies, the saudies refused their help and ask Bush senior for help insted. thus they hat e us as well, but if we are grate satan #1 to them hussain is great satian #2

Hmmm, I don't know the history of Al-Qa'ida and their relationship to Iraq. I do know based on speeches and press conferences that they were the 1st target but not the last.

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He is going killing people be cose he is agains those that "kill" baby's / fetuses...

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I have watched all his press appearances, the dude is PSYCO. Him and Charles Manson could have a nice game of chess and keep one another company. They are on the same level. After all; Charles Manson says outright, with "wide staring eyes", that he IS Jesus Christ.

I do think that it was very wrong for this person to kill these doctors.

To address your statement Nightfalls girl about an abortion being a personal decision, I do believe that, but I believe abortion should be illegal. No matter what, its the taking of a innocent life.

I have a firm beleife that life begins in the womb (after feeling my kid move and react to my voice during my wifes pregnancy.), any one who says other wise haas never realy delt with a pregnent women. In saying that, its very hard to pinpoint when that human life begins (you also need to bring up the whol parisitic aspect of early human life a baby in the first two trimesters cannont survive outside of the womb). I am also very pro choice, brining a life into the world is a very personal desicion (it should be made before you have sex...but), and if you are not ready to well then abortion needs to be an option (there are other options as well.).

Two other notes.

The idea that an abortion is the womens choice bothers me, it took to to create the child the fater should have some say in the matter.

Any one who is antiabortion better be antfemale contraceptive also as they all work as an abortitive (they block the fertilized egg from implanting.)

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Who gave him the right to go and kill people??

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Nobody is forcing you to kill abortion doctors, but I should have
the right to kill them as a personal choice.

Nobody is forcing you to own slaves, but I should have the right...

Nobody is forcing you to have an abortion, but...

Yeah, like whatever.
:cool:

Ya'll should go rent "Bowling for Columbine"

Personally I would like the right to speed down the highway as fast as I want. Love speed.... :D

"To address your statement Nightfalls girl about an abortion being a personal decision, I do believe that, but I believe abortion should be illegal. No matter what, its the taking of a innocent life." Yes and no. I beleave it should be legal as "accidents" do happon. Rape can often end in an unwanted pregnancy, if that child were to be born, it would be EXTREAMLY hard on the "mother" as it would continusly remind her. and tenage pregnancy (ther are 15 yr old girls where i live getting knocked up all the time*legaly not evn ment to be having s3x*)

"that he IS Jesus Christ" UARRRR NOOOO, HE IS A TWISTED DILUSIONAL PHYCOPATHIC ORGANISOM.

Nightfalls_Girl

Life begins at conception NOT
Life begins at birth NOT

Life begins when the kids move out of the house and the dog dies!

Hatred and intolerance will always have a convenient justification in religion. Someone flies a plane into a building for their god, someone else kills doctors for their god.

To answer your question, this man is no different than one of the 9-11 terrorists. All of them used religion and god to suit their purposes.

Ask me, all it does is give god more of a bad name than he's already got

Martyr my ass.


This guy contradicts Christianity. The Ten Commandments clearly says, Deut. chapter 5 verse 17 Thou shall not kill.

So he does not represent Christianity nor is a Christian. He is just another religious fanatic.

Neither were 911 bombers muslims.

they are no different than David Koresh (Waco)

DrEvil

That are all "waco" I think thay should all dye a long painfull death, dont you Gore??


Nightfalls_Girl

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Martyr my ass.


This guy contradicts Christianity. The Ten Commandments clearly says, Deut. chapter 5 verse 17 Thou shall not kill.

So he does not represent Christianity nor is a Christian. He is just another religious fanatic.

Neither were 911 bombers muslims.

they are no different than David Koresh (Waco)

DrEvil

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Just to clarify, the Ten Commandments aren't a part of Christian doctrine. They're part of the Law, which Jews must follow. According to Christianity, it's followers no longer need to follow the Law, as jesus died on the cross so the Law is no longer valid.

Tis however, considered a sin to kill, and is in the New Testament that murderers shall in the same manner be put to death

Religion just appears to be a nuther think to blame when people get cought doing illegal acctivitys just like the movies are blamed.


Nightfalls_Girl

I find it pretty damn funny that its usually these pro-life peaple who blow up abbortion places then hug trees and break apart a few SUVs... claiming that there is to much murder, pollution, & crap. But did these guys ever think that maybe there would be less of this stuff and more animals to pet or eat if there were less peaple in the world?

Specialist, last time I checked the pro-lifers where stongly on the right and the tree huggers where way on the left. Sure they are both in the extreams of each group and there may be some overlap, but I am prety sure that most pro-lifers don't give a damm about the enviroment.

if this man was obviously a nut then obviously the law was broken when he was executed. he should be playing chess with kadinsky. if this man was a religios fanatic who truley believed that innocent children where being murdered by this man then i guess socioty has the right to take his life...something just dosn't seem right about the whole thing. maybe i just dont know enough about the case

he is a sycopath whom needs to be locked up big time..
in a jail cell and become some ones b1tch, thatl make him wish he was never born!!

Nightfalls_Girl

little late for that hes dead

lol Dead and gone to .... whever he went.

oh fuhie.


Nightfalls_Girl

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most pro-lifers don't give a damm about the enviroment.

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Correct bballad. I care a little bit about the enviroement but not enough to sell my truck with a V8 and switch to a honda hrybrid. lol.

edit:\ Why does this thread say thats its somewhat negative??

I looked, but don't see anyone whos been negged.

tha just dont like us... *cryes hard*


Nightfalls_Girl