Hey guys, i noticed that pretty much all of your posts are c/cpp, but what about delphi?? Am i the only one here? ROFL!! Anyways, tell me what you think, whatever :P
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Hey guys, i noticed that pretty much all of your posts are c/cpp, but what about delphi?? Am i the only one here? ROFL!! Anyways, tell me what you think, whatever :P
Yeah, delphi is good. Very easy to learn for a beginnner. We learnt Pascal at school and did a major project on delphi. Quite a little powerful language, i wrote a three-level email encryption program with it.
However, back to being easy to learn. TOO easy for my liking... :; :D
Delphi is good. You make make a much smaller application than with VB that will do the same thing. VB and C are much more popular because of ease of use and compatability on one side and the open source nut cases on the other.
I say Nut Case as a compliment. :D
Err... smaller apps, NO!! You have to include runtimes.... VB sucks, just because of that. Delphi is great, cause there are no runtimes required.... But, i guess people do have their opinions, even if they suck :P
Oh, and there is open source for delphi, you just have to look with your eyes open :P
That's what I said! Delphi makes a much smaller app than VB. :)
err.... my bad...
I didnt notice you said makes smaller apps THAN vb
I have Delphi, and Delphi can get pretty complex. Take a look at Dev C++.
DOD, Dev C++ is a compiler for C++... You shudda said "Take a look at C++"... Anyways, i've looked into C++, and it is alot like JAVA, and delphi (more like JAVA) but it is still kinda hard, even tho i have the VB, Delphi, and JAVA background.....
Oh, BTW, DEV C++ is a nice compiler :D
give me vi and g++ anyday. delphi is a good oop I once made a point of sale program with delphi (pascal) that used access for the database and incorperated a barcode scanner and took care of all the buisness aspects of a golf courses club house. It is faster to make a prog in delphi than c++ in my opinion. but if you want to make a program that doesnt need as much code perl is the way to go.
Otis:
Dev C++ is written in Delphi that utilizes mingw (http://www.mingw.org/).Quote:
DOD, Dev C++ is a compiler for C++... You shudda said "Take a look at C++"...
From Dev C++ http://www.bloodshed.net/dev/devcpp.html:Quote:
MinGW: A collection of freely available and freely distributable Windows specific header files and import libraries combined with GNU toolsets that allow one to produce native Windows programs that do not rely on any 3rd-party DLLs.
So yes it is written in Delphi 6. So research before you yap.Quote:
The SourceForge project page is located here. The bleeding edge source code is located at the SourceForge CVS.
Source code for Dev-C++ 5: CVS repository
In order to compile it, you'll need Borland Delphi 6.
Mingw source code: http://www.mingw.org/
Hey Guys,
It's all "bloatware"....................learn pure assembly language....gets you closer to the b** ( yes Undertaker........first bottle still to take effect :) ) beast?
I am very archaic, but DOS is also worth knowing.......simple languages before complicated I say.
Just my 500 lei worth ( had a few beers with a Rumanian friend earlier :) )
Cheers
LOL. With VB you can build a simple database and all the input forms in about 30 minutes. Would take a year or two in assembly. ;)
nihil: Assembly might be the fastest language around (except for pure machine code, but I don't think anyone programs in that anymore!), but it's not portable and is much harder to learn than C++.
Realistically, if you want to be a programmer nowadays (by that I mean creating actual applications, putting web-based stuff with PHP aside for the moment), you would be best off learning either C++, Delphi, VB or Java (which, btw, is spelt all lowercase apart from the first letter - it's not an acronym).
Hi guys!
I am 50+ years old...cut my first code in 1970............IBM 360............80 column punched cards................sure I know that pure assembler is hard...might teach youngsters how to learn though?
just my £0.02 worth of crap anyways?
have a good day/ night wherever you are
OUY! DOD, you said "Take a look at DEVC++" not "Take a look at the code for DEVC++", you have to be more clear.... And, fyi, most of the time, i do my research before i ask something....
OMG, you go as far back as programming with punch cards?? WOW, i never actually met a person that has had to use punch cards before... My dad told me about them, musta been a pain in the ass, eh?? :P
I thought that was understood in the context of the thread. It was about Delphi. And DevC++ is written in Delphi... see? I'll make sure to spell it out for you next time :)Quote:
OUY! DOD, you said "Take a look at DEVC++" not "Take a look at the code for DEVC++", you have to be more clear.... And, fyi, most of the time, i do my research before i ask something....
come on...play nice
i picked up a copy of delphi last week and im pretty excited about it even though there hasn't been much time to screw around with it. Although you couldn't prove it by me, delphi's designed to be evan easier than vb. its interface is familiar after working with vb and i really like the idea of making apps that dont require a 10meg install.
so being as you started this ruckus Otis...whats your feelings on it
Well, i did state my feelings on delphi in the first post, i believe, but i do like the fact that it is pretty easy, and the MAJOR thing that makes me happy/horney/whatever, is the fact that it dont require runtimes... That is the main point i make to people who are deciding to, or are programming in VB....
I already know a bit of VB, because i started to learn, then switched to delphi, but i have to learn it even mre, cause my college uses VB :( Anyways, i may be able to get some education on using API.... :D cause API is pretty close to the same in every program (its use is)
After college, imma wrap it up with delphi, and learn some CPP, cause CPP is used alot more in the business world :D... I also heard that JAVA will be "taking off" and that it wud be worthwile to learn.... (i already know intermediate JAVA from highschool (if i havent forgot it already))
I & our developers at work are using Kylix (Delphi for Linux) to write an EPoS system.
The language is powerful & easy to use, but I find the IDE a little buggy
Steve
Yeah I agree with Steve it is a little buggy. Still love it though. People who know pascal should really love it, it's object based pascal.
Well, the only thing i've had happen to me is this:
AAfter a while of programming (few weeks or so), the programs that once used to compile on my computer wouldnt anymore... In the end, i found out that for some reason, the compiler warnings were turned on..... I never turned them on :-/
But, other than that, i have seen no bugs. But, i really dont play with the settings and anything, so it would be less of a chance that i'd come accross a bug.
I do not know much about delphi...I've never really tinkered in it.
Visual Basic has it's uses. The more you know about it the more you'll realize that most of what you read on the boards is complete and utter crap written by people who did not take the time to learn vb. It is all about rapid app development, and for anything that vb does not do for you fast enough you can simply write a com component or dll for the vb to use..... You also have the choice of compiling to p-code or straight up native code.
I'd rather smack myself in the head with a board than solve all my problems with machine language or assembly. Doing optimizations is great, or other specialized jobs....but that is about it.
c and c++ developers will always have jobs as long as they have skills (soft and tech).
Perl is great and can be used for alot of things....it also allows you to put together apps very quickly for windows and nix. Most of the people I see using it are admins or web related. Alot of software test automation people use perl too.
I dunno who told you java is taking off...but I don't see it going any farther than it is now. It's been out for years and even sun has trouble standing behind it. It is a decent little language to work with, but I'd only use it for some specific purposes (like e-commerce application server development for nix). User Interface wise it just sucks. I'd rather use c#.
PERL is a beautiful language that can work with a number of platforms. I thought it only did web apps at first, but no, it encompasses a wide variety of apps. :DQuote:
Perl is great and can be used for alot of things....it also allows you to put together apps very quickly for windows and nix. Most of the people I see using it are admins or web related. Alot of software test automation people use perl too.
Well, you know, E-Commerce is going to take off in the next few years... That means that JAVA will to, because, as you said, its good for E-Commerce... Yeah, the UI sucks... Now i remember who said JAVA will be a big hit... It was my college teacher... She was asking all the people in the IT courses who they were, and what languages they know... One guy said "I only know JAVA and HTML" and she said "ONLY JAVA??? Java will be a big thing soon..." So, i guess she has done some research on JAVA, and maybe she see's something in JAVA that all of us programmers dont, or maybe not... I dunno, i guess its up to the programmer to decide if JAVA is worthwile to learn or not.
I've been using Delphi since Delphi 5, used Pascal for many years before, and I love it, I think it still is the best RAD tool in the market, even though C# and the whole .NET framework is very nice, but still for applications there's nothing like Delphi. I think that you should learn as many languages as you can (or at least 2) so you can really use the one you need, and not have to do the job in the wrong language because you don't know another one, for example at work sometimes I decide to just use a "DOS batch file" to do the job, that's the easiest and most efficient way to do it, directly in DOS, the same applies for when you need to write a web page, etc... learn to use the right tool
Why go for PERL when there's PHP?Quote:
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PERL is a beautiful language that can work with a number of platforms. I thought it only did web apps at first, but no, it encompasses a wide variety of apps.
*grins*
php is good... I refuse to read all those long (some unformatted) posts :P