Hi all,
Just a quick question really, can you use a "War Dialer" if you have broardband, as it isnt stricktly a dial up connection?
Thanks!
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Hi all,
Just a quick question really, can you use a "War Dialer" if you have broardband, as it isnt stricktly a dial up connection?
Thanks!
I'm a bit suspicious on you motives for wanting to know this but I'll give you a quick explanation. In order to War Dial you need a way for your computer to dial (ie. a modem). If you have a modem your computer can make a "phone call" and therefore has the ability to war dial. Why do you ask?
War Dialing is basically obsolete. (Not totally, but pretty much) After the phone companies started using ESS to digitally switch calls you will find wardialing will get you alot of phone calls from pissed off people who *69'ed your ass because your modem called them at 3:00am and squealed in their ear.
-Maestr0
Thanks guys, dont get all suspisious NeuTron, I have just read Uberhacker by " the happy hacker" and she mentioned war dialing, I was just a bit curious as to if it would work with a ADSL modem.
Thanks for the info tho!
Cool...........sorry for the paranoia *used to smoke a lot*
Maestr0: today's war dialers do not make sequencial calls for extended periods of time; as stated in this thread about war dialers: http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=223516
i dunno this is only a suggestion, but you get the micro filters, one for the broadband and one for the phone line. A splitter type device.
Could you not just get a PC with a modem and plug it into where the phone is supposed to go? at the end of the day all your looking for is phone lines that have modems on, have you ever used your phone to ring a dial up account ISP?
Just for educational purposes theres alot of source code at packetstorm for wardialers.
Dial-up services are still used, for service engineers, traffic lights and data collection
i2c
You cant sue war dialers but there are similar things, There are attacks that can be used in broadband and can be used against broadband, I have one at home but the name slips my mind atm, what it does is send mass amounts of pigs to the person, oh yea its called panther nuker, its kind of lame but it does the trick, doesnt work well againt broadbands mostly just bogs downt there connection rather then make them lose it, against a dial up it kicks them fast, me and a friend were using it on each other a while back just to mess around and try new toys.
War dialing is still useful against certain targets, but for mass dialing it's not so great. For example, one could target a specific business based on their assigned number. Say its 555-5555 for the main number. So, in the Telco world most businesses have extra lines that roll to the main number so that they can receive more than one incoming call. It just happens to be, that phone companies assign blocks; so the rollover numbers may be 555-5556, 5557, 5558 and so on. Other companies have a completely separate block from the main number, but they are still in blocks. All you have to do is have someone call you back from the company after an innocent inquiry of something. Look my Caller ID says 555-2222, next block of targets...
Following that same logic, one could go to a whois site and do a lookup on the technical contact for a web site. Hmmm there is 555-9999, let me set my war dialer to 555-0001 to 555-9999 and see what happens? Most likely the technical contact could be located at the same location as a data center and most likely they have a modem for remote access at 3: am when the pager goes off. Now I have something to work with. At 2 o’clock in the morning who’s going to notice a nice stealthy probe? And once a number is established as a modem, keep on hitting it – night after night, heck it’s automated, eventually someone is going to leave it on or make a mistake and forget to turn of PC Anywhere.
Lovely…
I have a technical contact far away from my actual sites. Best not to place a number on the contact web page that is located near as well, if you can get away with it. Not only does it give potential modem targets away but you have also given away the geo-location of the site as well. Keep them separate if your paranoid and can work around it.
if it is legitimate use, ask your isp if it isn't? One question, are you complitely tired of your peaceful life?
As I said they are MOSTLY obsolete. If you have a specific target you are looking for dial-up access to,thats one thing but the good old days of wardialing an entire exchange are over. And non-sequential war-dialing is not new, it still doesnt stop people from calling back as your modem plows through hundreds of numbers an hour this starts to become a real inconvienence to the would-be wardialer. One of cool ones was called Code Thief Deluxe people used to use that would not only log numbers with carriers but could be used to hack PBX's and calling cards using random #'s or templates and could be configured to do all sorts of stuff. If someone is really interested I might be able find a copy on floppy somewhere but its pretty dated stuff, still....its a neat little piece of hacking history.
-Maestr0
http://www.systemexperts.com/tutors/wardial-fiw1999.pdf
http://www.etext.org/CuD/NARC/narc-3
I agree with you. For us they are mostly obsolete. But let me ask you this. As far as that goes let me ask you all this. How many of you have every answered the phone, but nobody was there? Somewhere out there there is a machine that "war dials" if you will. Except they aren't searching for modems, No they are now searching for active phone lines. When you say hello, your number gets added to a list of active numbers that is later sold. Then you get bothered by some clown that wants to sell you an umbrella you can use indoors, when all you wanna do is eat your tv dinner.Quote:
As I said they are MOSTLY obsolete
Yet we're the criminals.
excuses excuses excuses..Quote:
Nightfalls_Girl
http://www.technofile.com/articles/a...and_phone.html
You've never heard of video phones? Of course you can talk to peaple and stuff over a broad band connection... of course this is nothing like picking up normal phones & calling... and the main problem here is the services that help make it all possable. As far as wardailing goes... you mean your actually that bored and have enought money to try stuff like this from your house?
The best solution for your dilemma. If you really want to War Dial!
Go to this link, it will teach you everything you need to know about War Dialing! The expert computer hacker David Lightman, will show you his secrets.
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In almost every vulerability assesment I have done or been on the recieving end of; there is always a modem turned on someplace in the network. If you want to really lock up the system, check the phone lines. There are more ways in than on a TCP/IP connection connected to DSL, or Fame Relay, etc. How many of your fax machines are connected to PCs? How many people have brought in USB modems to bypass network security measures??? It's alarming.
To feed the paranoia, how many times in anyone's life do you pick up the phone and no one is there? Or you hear a couple of beeps and then click. Is there a glitch in the phone switch or did an ex-gf call and hang up???? Who knows.... :)