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I want to learn
heya everyone,
i am new to security, like i know about firewalls and stuff but i want to learn more. i want to know how virii work how the tools on this site work basically i wanna know everthing. i was wondering how i would come acroos this information? any suggestions?
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Wow, you certainly want to learn a lot!
I commend you for your thirst of knowledge, but honestly, you're being very vague. What exactly do you want to know about "virii" and "firewalls and stuff"?
My suggestion is to sign up for newsletters, especially bugtraq's at SecurityFocus
Oh, and I almost forgot. Your name tells me a lot about your ventures. Please, read Gore's excellent article: http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=245746
Good luck, you've came to the right place.
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GOOGLE is every ones friend
www.google.com
you can find everything there..
the name in whitch people choose to call themseves shoure does tell a story...
Nightfalls_Girl
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a hammer is my friend
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-RTFM-
www.google.com
www.happyhacker.com
www.antionline.com
Start with these pages.
now...what do u need to learn about virii? quite frankly one does not quite need a virii tutorial to understand how they work and what they do and to ask to "know" about virii sounds to me like asking to know how to "compile" virii. Please be more specific to avoid missunderstanding.
peace
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Evil inside has alot of tutorials..
http://www.evilinside2.tk/
Has some illegal stuff.. Im sure you can ignore them
My £0.02
--Edit
Some of the links are broken (most of them illegal tutorials)
Happy hunting :)
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As it has been said before. Google Google Google. It will help you out alot. There is nothing i could stress more than that. Also the sn kinda points to the wrong side of the information you want so you might find a bit more reluctance when it comes to helping with virii. But it is only a screenname so there really shouldnt be much trouble unless you show that what you want to know is going to be used for bad. So post some more and let us know you really want the info for good use.
PeacE
-BoB
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i dont mean to be sarcastic, but if you had a specific question, you could search through the tons of posts on a variety of topics in this site
good luck in your quest for knowledge
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No i don't want to learn how to compile virii. want to learn how the companys make the antidote to these virii stuff like that. and i thought script kiddie ment someone who doesn't know much about security. am i wrong?
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Script kiddie refers to someone who uses others tools with out understanding of how or why they work. It is generally a derogative term.
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hiya,
I dunno whether you can get the new scienetist magazine over there in OZ, i think you probably can, but there have an excellent article on how virus scanners are working and how there trying to build more intellengent virus software, that can find viri before there even known.
At the moment virus scanners search for patterns and the likes on the harddisk, new ones are likely to search for behaviour types.
as for the antidote one thing i would suggest doing, is learn to understand ASM (assembly) so you can decompile viri, find out what they do and then remove that with either a a script file (anything from BAT files to Python or perl would work) or even create your own .exe in C or other high level to remove the infect components.
this process can be called reverse engineering, this is name is often associated with software cracking, although its alway applied to electronics, and other legal stuff
i2c
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Oh AV programs mostly look for virus signatures in programs and things then they'll often get rid of the virus & the virus's startup method.
No a script kiddie is mainly used as a term of insult. Its mostly a kid or just a childish idiot who downloads things like sub7 or one of those virus construction kits then quickly points and clicks it without even learning about how it works or why... and they don't care... they'll do anything to look cool or smart. Noobie would be a more acceptable name but I can see alot of humor in the one you already have though. :D
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script kiddie is an insult?
whoopse! well i've learnt something already.
anyway how would i go about learning ASM?
and yes we get new scientist which issue do you refer to?
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Once again, use google. You can't expect to learn ASM from a forum such as AO, so google around a bit, see what you can find.
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Hi,
A good starting place is to go to the wesites of the major anti virus providers such as
Symantec
Network Associates
Kaspersky
McAfee
Trend Micro
Leprechaun software
RAV
They all have tutorials, details of what their products do and alerts/descriptions of how viruses work
Also look at the Gibson Research Corporation site and about.com (Hi Tony) where there is an antivirus section.
You might also like to look at the CERT and CIAC sites for security advisories.
Just a few thoughts to get you started...............
Cheers
EDIT: Silly me...............I forgot:
Do a Google search for "security freeware" and "antivirus freeware".....................you will find all sorts of stuff and be able to play with it at no cost :)