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I just read the book "Hacker Culture" By Douglas Thomas and I noticed that he mentioned AntiOnline In this Paragraph.
This is located on page 140 for anyone wishing to look it up. Just thought I tell some people about it.Quote:
"Additionaly, hackers have taken to creating thier own news sites such as the Hacker New Network and Anti-Online, both of which provide a specialized new service about events and news of interest to the hacker communtiy."
Yeah... actually AO has been mentioned in many other books and not to mention the news a few times also.
I feel so special! WOOOOOOOO.
Heh, sorry, couldn't help myself. Maybe I'll become a media whore! I'll make a name for myself by attacking journalists, since they dont do anything but bitch and write :)
Wtf?
Yes, I recall while reading the book CyberShock it mentioned something about AO being in some kind of hacker war of some sort? I was a little confused by that.
Anyone have any info about that by the way? Or is the author mistaken?
--Peace :cool:
Hey everyone, just last year, in AUSTRALIA. I was watching this documentry, it was About Kevin Mitnick and a few others, And the person interviewing Kevin make a comment about
"Antionline"....
And asked he's thought's about this site, Kevin being the uphimself looser that he is, had nothin to say about this place, well nothing nice that is.
Anyhow i too have also read some interesting books witch have made reference to this site being a haven for computer criminals.....?
Witch is wierd because i have noticed that as soon as someone comes in here posts a question about hacking, cracking, or phreaking, they get flammed and banned.....?
So whom ever is writing or saying that sort of stuff that AO is a place for criminals, well i think that they need there brains examined.
As the only stuff that i've learnt in here is how to solve my computer problems and , learn more about computer security, from others in here....
AND I WILL GIVE A HUGE THUMBS UP TO EVERYONE, AND TO JP. YOUR A GENIUS AND AFTER READING THAT STUFF ON YOUR MAKESHIFT WEBSITE, I WAS PROUD TO BE APART TO ME APART OF THIS ORGANISATION!!!
(sorry about the caps, )
Anyhow in closing, i think that newsreporters are wrong and that they should actually come here were they would be suprised that they were wrong!!!!
Cheers.
What you expect the media to report the truth?
And you expect them to use what little intelligence that they may have to try to figure out what is realy happening here...
Mind you I can here because of the reported link to hacking (read as the Lamer Culture).. only to find the opposite. more a anti-lamer culture..
But reporters are to interested in the easy explaination to understand this.. and unfortunatly so are 90% of the general population..
Cheers
BTW: I have forgotten the password to my (G/F's) Hotmail account.. can someone help me recover it..?
http://www.antionline.com/showthread...314#post661314Quote:
Originally posted here by Und3ertak3r
I have forgotten the password to my (G/F's) Hotmail account.. can someone help me recover it..?
Shame on you!!
LOL I thought questions like this had already been covered dozens of times...
It apparently never seems to get boreing to some peaple though...
:D
cyru5_nuk3,Well from the documentary that i watched, i was amazed at his level of inteligance and computer knowledge, even if he was a criminal, the skills he possessed would put most "so called" tech's to shame.Quote:
Kevin being the uphimself looser that he is
He has and is making lots of money from the knowledge he has. Running his own computer
security business. Ha! what a looser.
AlsoWell i suspect the serious hackersQuote:
Anyhow i too have also read some interesting books which have made reference to this site being a haven for computer criminals......? Which is wierd because i have noticed that as soon as someone comes in here posts a question about hacking, cracking, or phreaking, they get flammed and banned......?
that are definately here at this site would have some sort of social engineering skills and would'nt be asking lame ass questions in the first place.
Come on man! I first came to this siteQuote:
So whom ever is writing or saying that sort of stuff that AO is a place for criminals, well i think they need their brains examined
after being infected with a trojan. I explained what my computer was doing and recieved the
helpfull information that enabled me to fix this problem. In doing so "coming here with a problem relating to security" this provides not only the law abiding visitors with information
but also the criminals that are here to gather info as well. Unfortunately a security related
issue can't be hidden from these criminals, i suppose we just have to try and be one step ahead, hopefully that is......
Anyways just my opinion..... TidaL...
Alot of the reason for this site being portrayed the way it is is due to the large security files/progs section which contains everything from keyloggers to trojans - some may ask why do these files remain then? simple reason - know thy enemy ;)
v_Ln
I agree completely. As a matter of fact, I originally came to this site specifically FOR the downloads section so I could find certain malware to try and determine what it does and how it works so we could better protect the environment I was working to secure.Quote:
some may ask why do these files remain then? simple reason - know thy enemy
Unfortunately, I found a lot of useless stuff and a lot of malware within the malware- programs that had their own viruses and trojans. So, now I stay far away from the downloads section and triple scan anything I do download from there.
On the up side, I learned that the collective knowledged of the members of AO was a more valuable tool to me than the downloads section so I hung around to share in the community and learn and hopefully help others along the way.
i think a lot of sites that are legitimately about computer security get a bad rep from one's which claim to be about security but are geared towards breaking it instead of enforcing it. it seems to me so many sites discuss security in a wink wink knudge knudge sort of way, leaving it plain to everyone (including those in the media) that the intention is malicious. ao users joke about "how do i crack my g/f's hotmail?" and "how do i use sub7?" topics, which in here are ridiculous, but how many other "security" forums do actually discuss these topics? it's scary how many!
i like ao because it is not about malicious cracking. i don't have to backwards engineer what some cracker is talking about so i can secure my boxes. it's one of only a few places which give me direct answers. so it's all the more unfortunate when it's represented badly in the media.
If anything, I think that rumor or whatever it was... started back when AO used to cover more news stories and it was mainly the interviews with some less than security motivated peaple. And mostly lets not forget the old logo... that had always been a problem with kids comeing in here saying duh... "im still not sure what you peaple are really all about".
<Edited> Speaking of the old logo... before the purple one... who remembers back when the logo used to be the color red??? :p </Edited>
Whats really sad is even nowdays with JupM's water'ed down "suit and tie" version of AO... on rare days scumbags still manage to signup without reading a single word off of the homepage then fill the board with garbage. I mean how many times can you sit back & explain to Jane & Joe blow everyday that their dreams of becomeing zero ****ing cool will never come true?!?
You also have to realize that way back in the day AO was not a news reporting portal. It was all about gathering up files and exploits. At that time, this would have been back in like 97, maybe a little bit earlier, it was mostly people who were looking for tools to hack. It was not as much about security professionals. Regardless of how it is portrayed these days, if you were around back in the days when AO was run from Penn State, there were not many security professionals. Atleast not security professionals in the way we think of them now.
There was at one time what I guess people call a hacker war. Basically JP had a bunch of info on the people who were using his site and he came out with a new direction for AO, that of being a security news portal as well as a site for security professionals. At this time JP was running a hacker tracking database and trying to give access to this database to police, feds, etc.... I guess the main reason for the database was to garner a little bit of recognition so that he could lecture on the topic of hacker profiling. This pissed off a lot of the people that JP had been associating with as most of those people considered themselves to be part of the underground. It was during this time that JP featured articles written by C. Meinel and mostly just provided links to other news reporting agencies. Although JP did try to scoop a couple of hacking stories that some will now say got the attention of the FBI and supposedly led to JP being investigated by the feds. Of course I don't work for the feds so I can't confirm this, so take it as a rumor.
Then about 2 years ago the current PHP version of the AO website came about and it turned into being more about the forums.
There is always some truth in rumor. And there is never complete truth in anything. This site has changed a lot in the last 10 years, mostly in the last 5 years though. And with things like the wargames at happyhacker that AO was involved with, the "inside" news that AO had about a pentagon hack, and many other things, there will be lots of rumors. Most of what you see in bocks or by the media about this site, is in reguards to the site from 3 to 5 years ago, not the current forums.
I actually foun a listing of this site in "Beginning Programming for Dummies" and the description reads:
Antionline provides news and hacking tool, along with a network of computers on witch hackers can safely and legally expand their skills."
Now is it me or was this author just making it up as he went along.
And befor any suggests it i was already a member of AntiOnline before i read this article.
How old was the book? The Hacker News Network has not been around since L0pht was bought out by @stake.Quote:
Originally posted here by Limpster
I just read the book "Hacker Culture" By Douglas Thomas and I noticed that he mentioned AntiOnline In this Paragraph.
Additionaly, hackers have taken to creating thier own news sites such as the Hacker New Network and Anti-Online, both of which provide a specialized new service about events and news of interest to the hacker communtiy."
This is located on page 140 for anyone wishing to look it up. Just thought I tell some people about it.
I am only a recent user of AO, I have not seen the way things were in the past, but I would have to say that this forum is more anti-hacker than anything. All of the posts that are on here have the potential to help techs in the industry whether the posts are positve or negative. It just disapoints me a bit :( to know that there are people citing this forum in books and referencing it as a hacker site.
I, too< ended up here for help and at that time I thought I might have a little knowledge to share with all of you---he he he what an as*h*le I was but regarding the downloads section---There is a thread somewhere on this site where a guy downloaded and executed malicious files and had to format his machine, i think more than once~~~~i couldn't find it just now but it was a classic
exacly what is it we are calling a hacker? scriptkids and crackers ?? do they even live up to the term hacker and what do you guys putt into the word?
Raliegh's Soliloqy Pt1.
I just recite this when I'm having a bad day because of crackers and virus writers........
We've got you in this f***n' movie to exterminate all the lunatics all at once with a filtering system of God. We're the psycho-semantic police. You can't even see us. How in the F*** can you do anything about it? We're pure intelligence. You're not.
You're biological product of a cosmological universe.
You're molecular matter
I constructed you
F*** you
I made you up
you didn't make me up
you got it backwards
You know who you are
You're F***in' semantic blockage
that's what made you up
You're a F***in' programmer named Christine Gontara
Conf1rm3d_Kill, Why negg me then dont even post in this thread? I was going to p.m. you
regarding your a.p's so i decided to look in the tutorials forum for one of your posts.
After going back 20 pages i gave up that idea, seems you dont share your knowledge
there much, not in the last 12 months anyways. You say in your biographyWell i would appreciate your opinionQuote:
I came here for the security and stay for the politics. There's some very intelligent people here and its great to get the opinions of different continents.
for negging me rather than just sayingUnless your negg relatedQuote:
Dickhead
to another of my post's recently, or you are related to them?
Anyway's that's my opinion, i think that if you can negg someone you can at least have the
curtisey(cant spell sorry) to explain why. I think that it would benifit this site if everyone that
neggs explains the reasons as to why if valid, so that the people getting negged would know
why and possibly change for the better. Thanks TidaL....
p.s. no explanation needed when you get greens.
Perhaps he thought you were kissing Kevin Mitnick's ass on this thread 'eh?
lol if thats the case then yeah... I'd have to agree there is nothing special about Mitnick, the guy is a tottal one trick poney. There is a rumor that he can't even code his own hello world programs in VB or C++ and if you have read other books about him other than his social engineering rantings you'll notice that he got busted mainly due to showing off infront of friends. Thats tottally stupid, man.
Fair call |The|Specialist Wasn't kissing any ass though. Maybe i should have talked
up the exploits of Captain Crunch instead? Got to get me one of those whistles.
Cheers TidaL.
just a thought and all. but may be it is a diffrent antionline thay are talking about...
Nightfalls_Girl