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Ok, I'm trying to install NT server 4 on a computer with a 20GB HD. I want to use the entire space of the HD but every time I select that partition, then tell windows setup to format it, it says its to large and needs to be below 8099. So I go back and make it 7000 and try it again, but it still says that partition is to big. Am I missing something here or could my HD be screwed up??
BTW: Its a Western Digital Caviar HD.
Hi Cheyenne,
I am no expert on the Server version of NT 4.0, but I do know that the client version restricts you to a C-Drive partition of 2Gb or so, you need to create other partitions for data/apps and to use up the rest of the space.
I guess the server is set to limit the "C" just like the client?
Cheers
Johnno
EDIT the 8gb complaint might be the bios? I think there is a breakpoint around that level?...so you could have BIOS and NT 4 complaining about different things?
yeah, it's restricted to a specific size, we use 4000 at work. It's a real pain in the a** later when the main partition fills itself up with crap so quickly! I wish there was a work around for this, but it's probably in place for a reason...
I believe that the thinking was "security and stability"................I think that I deserve a Purlitzer prize for getting those two words into a discussion on M$ :D
You just had the OS and key apps on the C drive, which you would secure, and leave the rest up for grabs?
Just a vague recollection?
Cheeers
The only reason I'm even bothering to install NT on a machine is because I'm wanting to learn how to set up domains, and NT is the only thing I could get from a friend, and 2000 server is so damn expensive.
Cheyenne, NT is restricted to a 4GB partition on the system drive because MS is stupid and the install program formats the system in FAT then coverts it to NTFS, since FAT16 cant adress any bigger, thats what happens. Here's what I have done, use a partition editor which can use NTFS and create the system partition before install (I reccomend BooItNG which is free) DO NOT FORMAT from setup, or you can use the setup program twice and install the second time on the secondary(aka big partition) then ditch the first install from partiton editor.
-Maestr0
If your system won't acknowledge the larger partition, I seem to remember something about having to replace a .dll from a SP4 or higher for really large system partions(bigger than 6 or 8 maybe??Been a while)
Hi,
That's a fact. I paid £585 (GBP) for the last 2000 server I bought (5 clients) :( . On the positive side, NT4 is quite good enough to learn on, as 2000 Pro is only a progression from it. XP Pro is rather different. Not tried 2003...............I have too great a liking for beer, and difficult economic choices have to be made....so I did :D
If you look in some of the obscure text files within 2000Pro you will see it referred to as NT5! so you will see what I mean.
Good Luck With Your Project
Cheers
Maestr0....yes there is an 'edit' you can do (from SP 3 ?) Create the original Boot Diskettes, then add updated dll/sys files to Diskette 3.
Cheyenne1212......As everyone has suggested...create the 'default' size boot partition of (max) 4996. From there...get to Service Pack 4. Then use Partition Magic to stretch it to 20 gigs.
Here's a link from Microsoft explaining limitation, although they say maximum limit is 7.8G
http://support.microsoft.com/default...B;en-us;224526
And here's a link that shows you how you can overcome limitation using mkbt.exe
http://www.nu2.nu/fixnt4/
Ive never used mkbt.exe myself, you might want to give it a try..
good luck
cheers..
Thanks for the help guys.
One more question. I'm on the XP pro computer right now, and NT server should be set up for a domain controller. I gave myself a account on the Server and when I go to let this computer join the domain, it says that it can't find it. Is there any way that I can make sure that NT is correctly set up to act as a domain controller.
During installation of NT4.0 server, you will have an option to install NT server as
1) standalone server 2) PDC (primary domain controller) or 3) BDC (backup domain controller)
You probably already did it, but just in case, did you choose PDC..and also are both the xp and NT server PCs on same subnet...
Because if they are not, and are separated by a router you have to either configure WINS server, force the router to forward UDP broadcasts (NBT) or configure lmhosts or hosts file (not sure on XP),
Basically by default the way the XP PC will look to find the domain controller is by sending out UPD/netbios broadcasts...
Just curious, may be a stupit question, can the two devices ping each other...
cheers,
Yeah when I installed NT, I chose it to be a Primary Domain Controller.
Both computers are on the same subnet and both can ping each other.
I'm downloading a trial version of Microsoft Server 2003 right now :D
I'm think I'm gonna try that out also.
Just a thought, could you format your drive using the xp disk then install NT. Would that work?
I wouldn't see why that wouldn't work.
Just format it myself, then install NT on that.
What is the 'workgroup' name of the XP computer ? It needs to be the same 'domain' name as the Server. (have you already done this ?)
Here's a thought. (I have not attached XP to NT4) but when using Win 2K Professional to an NT 4 server.......they do not play well together. The Win2K Pro had to be a 'trusted domain' of the NT4 server.
Make sure you have your server as a WINS server and make sure your XP has it listed as one. This will resolve NetBios names for you. Use Network ID in Control Panel>System to join the domain from the XP box, it will ask you for an account that is authorized to join the domain,make sure the account used is a domain admin. Lemme know if that helps. Are you running a DNS server?
-Maestr0