Question about ICS

Ok i connect to the internet through a gateway running ICS which is assigning private addresses to each computer on the network using DHCP , well i was just wondering why doesnt this assign each computer a internet address as well? because when i ping the internet address which seems to be mine is actually just the ip address that the gw is using so am i right in thinking that basicly all ICS allows is things like web browsing downloading etc etc.......... because my computer is just sending packets to the gw and then the gw slaps its on address on the packet sends it out to the net the packet returns to the gw and then it's just returning back to my computer, so basically the computer running ics doesnt assign internet addresses to each computer? i wanna know if its possible for the ics host to assign new internet ip's to each computer?

No it is not possible. THis is why we have routers, and computers capable of sharing the interent connection. THe only way you could get a public IP to all computers on your lan would be to order internet connections for all of those computers. Besides, its safer when only one computer/router is exposed.

you could get a block of ip addys. even with a dsl service like covad which will allow you a block of five at no additional charge, biz class anyway. verizon or cable will not do this as far as i know. your router gets the first and you still have four you can assign internally. with a T you get 15 or more if you want to pay for them.

Well I guess I was misinformed about this.

None of my providers down here offere anything like that.

I've not heard of it either...

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Because you do not own the public addresses..Ip addresses are a commodity and are being depleted. If everyone wanted to do what you stated, we would run out of IP addresses very quickly..

Besides, you dont really need additional Ip addresses unless you are hosting something on your LAN that requires users to access from the Internet.

As far as an ISP giving out 5 or more free IP addresses, this is soley up to the provider..It is a marketing practice to retain and increase customer base...

From my personal experience, verizon/DSL and Cable out here on the east coast/US only gives out 1 IP/dynamic for residential users...any additional must be reprovisioned as business class and cost additional $$$$

My own provider sells blocks of 8, in which 5 are usable because of routing etc.

You can even order them on the internet and never have to talk to anyone. Crazy.

If each computer had it's own IP like you want, then ICS is pointless. You won't need it.

IPs are going to be changed from 255 to 32k and summat.... apparently existing ips will just have 0's added...

eg. 123.456.123.45

would become: 00123.00456.00123.00045 or similar...

which is odd because it copes without 0's at the moment o.o

Rusho, you are talking about IPv6..

the existing IPv4 adresses won't be padded with 0's.. they will co-exist nicely..

I have a whole range of IPv6 addy's wich I also use (via tunneling)

the ethernet device will just have a "normal" IPv4 ( xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ) address and an IP46 address.. (and ofcourse a MAC address, wich has nothing to do with apple;))

Apple? You mean like a Granny Smith, my favorite? :D

I was just reading about IPv6 the other day and I remember the article saying there are only about 4 billion IP addy's out there reserved for internet use. Hence the importance of ICS or a router, (I have a netgear fr114p).
The article goes on to say that with IPv6 there will be about 3x10^38 IP addresses for internet use or 6.5x10^23 per square meter of the Earth's surface.
I eagerly await the demise of IPv4 so that I can have approx. 4,550,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 IP (700sqM) internet addresses reserved for my use in my home :D

I have read something about a dual stack "proposition" for a transitional phase, where 0's are used to pad out ip4 IP's and the ip6 packets get wrapped with ip4 headers, the 0's get removed by a IP6 device to reveal the real the ip4 address and ip4 headers get removed to reveal ip6 packets.
This sounds like a lot of too-ing and fro-ing to me
I say, just get rid of IPv4, and get on with life :p

There will probably be 50 million new exploits when they do it :D (or not, who knows just how much they can **** it up :rolleyes: )

Rushie