Poetry, Nighfalls girl & other BS...

As a apropriette disclaimer don't take this personally...

It's amusing watching teenagers pour their hearts out on AO w/ their silly little poem about love and death and meaning of life. Nightfalls girls... hehe. Although I've been through that gohtic stage (for about a week), it's really funny to watch you wollow in this emotional crap. When you'll finally join the "real" world (not the show) you'll realize (for guys especially) there's no true love... hehe. Every human being so ****ing complicated and demanding that it's not even worth it to put up w/ relationships. Especially, I stress this, especially when you are young. Use and abuse before somebody does it to you... I can understand teenage girls doing this but once the guys realize what kind of nightmare women are... (especially the good looking women).... Oh,... head hurts from thinking down to this level...AHH

This opinion doesn't represent the opinions of other AO members or AO moderators...

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good times

LMAO! ! ! You don't even know how old I am. There are quite a few "older" members here. Dont assume. ;)

Rouge Spy... your name wasn't mentioned ... and don't take it personally.. it's all in a good humor... when I was in high school I wrote "poetry" as well ... (still have it) but now that I retrospect on my emotional stage @ the time ... and my ideas about relationships... ufffffffff ... I'm just glad I'm not there anymore

I know my name was not mentioned. I realize that. But I just find it amusing that you would create such a thread right after I had posted the Poetry thread. I suppose it was just a coincidence.

Poetry is a way of expressing one's self. It does not matter the age. I also wrote some poetry while I was in highschool. And even when I was in College. And I still write it.

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I can understand teenage girls doing this but once the guys realize what kind of nightmare women are... (especially the good looking women).... Oh,... head hurts from thinking down to this level...AHH

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d00d don't take it personally, but you're an f'ing idiot. It would appear to me (and most others, I'm sure) that you're quite used to thinking "down to this level".

Poetry if constructed right can be quite an aesthetically pleasing expeince. Some people meddle in poetry perhaps due to their inexperience or simply to alleive these 'childish' emotions, you do or have done the same just through a different medium. The fact that you dont realise you have is an example of your misleading attitude to your outlook on life.

Someone said around here one time that poetry annoys others who read it and frustrates those who write it.

Personally, it doesn't bother me. I like to see (read) what people really think and feel.

I think it is just him. Been used and abused a few times....or wishes he could be. We won't talk about why ;)

debwallin ... you are a woman, therefore it is natural for you to oppose my "sexist" views. after all, you have a poem in your profile.

since this is an OPINION thread (not a flame thread) I'd expect that a woman would get her bullshit feelings hurt by my opinion. so pls if you are offended stop reading just like i didn't read your poem.

every "boy" will eventually grow up and learn how to "deal" w/ women. and how to get "what he needs" from a woman. somtimes it requires ability to "pretend" that he is interested in "poems"

since i don't know you I don't have to lie, so, deb i just want you to know that if you'd met me, you'd never know what i really think or mean unless I'd wouldn't want anything from you... in which case I wouldn't care what you think... tata, leave me alone

"Especially, I stress this, especially when you are young. Use and abuse before somebody does it to you... "

you wont even make it to be a bitter old man!

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Originally posted here by etruscan
debwallin ... you are a woman, therefore it is natural for you to oppose my "sexist" views. after all, you have a poem in your profile.

since this is an OPINION thread (not a flame thread) I'd expect that a woman would get her bullshit feelings hurt by my opinion. so pls if you are offended stop reading just like i didn't read your poem.

every "boy" will eventually grow up and learn how to "deal" w/ women. and how to get "what he needs" from a woman. somtimes it requires ability to "pretend" that he is interested in "poems"

since i don't know you I don't have to lie, so, deb i just want you to know that if you'd met me, you'd never know what i really think or mean unless I'd wouldn't want anything from you... in which case I wouldn't care what you think... tata, leave me alone

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Interesting. Here you are saying this is an opinion thread not a flame thread and yet you flame out at deb. And you don't know anything about her or anyone else here. You are going based on an ASSUMPTION.

That said, you seem to suggest that men who write poetry are "boys". Have you read some of the greats of poetry like Frost, Shakespeare, etc? If IIRC, not only did they do it to just express an emotion at the time but they did it to make money. Many male poets do exceptionally well (both with awards and publishing of poetry).

It is but another artform like say drawing, computer graphics, graffitti.

IMHO, based on what I've read that you write and presented yourself, it makes me think that you view women as nothing more than something to get what you "need".

So while you are certainly entitled to your opinion, I think Deb (and all the boys and girls) are entitled to theirs, even if they disagree with your opinion.

And that's just my opinion. So... *BLEAH*

"As a apropriette disclaimer don't take this personally...

It's amusing watching teenagers pour their hearts out on AO w/ their silly little poem about love and death and meaning of life. Nightfalls girls... hehe. Although I've been through that gohtic stage (for about a week), it's really funny to watch you wollow in this emotional crap. When you'll finally join the "real" world (not the show) you'll realize (for guys especially) there's no true love... hehe. Every human being so ****ing complicated and demanding that it's not even worth it to put up w/ relationships. Especially, I stress this, especially when you are young. Use and abuse before somebody does it to you... I can understand teenage girls doing this but once the guys realize what kind of nightmare women are... (especially the good looking women).... Oh,... head hurts from thinking down to this level...AHH

This opinion doesn't represent the opinions of other AO members or AO moderators...

hehe

good times"



HA YOUR A ****ING TOSSER, YOU PEACE OF ****, WHERE DO YOU GET OFF WRIGHTING THIS KIND OF CRAP? WHAT LITTLE POEM ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT YOU ASS HOLE?? I HAVENT WRITTEN ANY ONM HEAR, IV POSTED LYRICS THO... OH AND THE MEANING OF LIFE THAT IS SOMTHING EVERY ONE THINKS ABOUT AT SOME STAGE OR ANUTHER. **** YOUR A LOSER.
YOU SAY "there's no true love..." BOY ARE YOU IN FOR A ****ING SHOCK!!! YAH THERE IS ACCUILLY, JUST BE COSE YOU WOULD RATHER GO OUT AND FIDE SOME 2c WHORE TO ****, THAN GO AND FIND SOME ONE SPECIAL. YOUR NOTHING MORE THAN A PEACE OF SLIME ON THE SIDE OF A STREET DRAIN.
WHATS THE BIG ****ING IDEA WITH WOMEN BEING A NIGHTMARE?? LOOK IF YOU DO NOT LIKE WOMEN THAT IS YOUR DEAL, BUT THER IS NO REASON TO GO AROUND LABELING THEM NIGHTMARE'S.
"head hurts from thinking down to this level"
YOU ****ING TOSSER. YOUR VERRY OPINIONATED ARNT YOU... IF YOU ****ING WELL BELEAVE THAT YOUR TALKING DOWN TO THIS LEVEL THEN I THINK YOU BETTER JUST **** OF OUT OF THIS FORUM...

IM SO NOT GOING TO BE DRAGGING MYSELF DOWN TO YOUR LEVEL AGAIN.


Nightfalls_Girl

Nightfalls_Girl,

I believe the term is Trolling. I think he's doing it just to get your "goat" as it were. A friend of mine wrote this and it might be worthwhile to read. :D

Nightfalls ... your reaction is exactly what I would expect ... thanx for making my point. (oh yeah, and grow up)

Ms.Mittens over the years I've been on AO (lurking and under different nicks) I've gained tremendous respect for you. You are AO's voice of reason and know more about tech & security then many of us. Although I understand that you as a woman you are offended by my post, I posted only to express my opinion about certain threads that do not really belong on AO. Yes, even I sometimes post about issues that don't directly relate to the theme of this site but I don't flood the forums w/ my emotional issues. I do feel compeled to write and bitch about everything in my life. After all I recently posted that my mother was diagnosed w/ cancer. (save your jokes, everyone) The banner on the site says "AO maximum security for conected world" it's not a ****ing poetry contest. Somtimes I don't post because I know it doesn't relate to the overall theme of the site. Why is it OK for ppl to post whatever they want and up their member status. It's crap. Why is it wrong for me to criticise this woman, when she is being TYPICAL. I don't go to Romace Novels boards and post about recent OpenSSH exploit. The problem is that it's not politically correct to criticize woman threfor I'm being labeld as an *******. You and other members have the self control to post relevant topics. My point is that I don't think it's appropriate to post poem after poem on a security website. Yes we all got it that NG is a ball of emotion but to tell you the truth her art is cheesy, childish and rubbishy. So damn me if you will. I just wanted to talk about tech.

edit: when I was writing about "pretending" in relationships ... it mirrors itself in pretending that we have to be respectfull of poems and art because "it comes from the heart"...

WHAT POEMS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ?????
IM REALY CURIOUS AS I HAVE NOT WRITTEN ANY HEAR. HELL I DONT EVEN WRIGHT POETRY, I DO ART. SO WHERE IS THE POERTRY.... AND YOU UP PPL ABOUT THINGS NOT DIRECTLY INVOLVING COMPUTERS. WELL HOW EXACTLY DOES THIS INVOLVE COMPUTERS??


Nightfalls_Girl

I saw your "art" ... noone cares ... you put a ****ing doll in a little coffin ... should I piss myself ... this kind of art I can do w/ my left nut ...

by the way I went to your site ... everything about you screams "I want attention!!!" You are typical in trying to be different ... but hey you are too damn sexy to be anything else... right...

you suck... you are a copy of a copy of a copy...

ok first of the coffens are for my final assessment for a course im studying, and no i dont think you could do it with your nuts. thay are a political art work and there is also a vidio clip that i created with windows movie maker.

oh yah you went to my uncompleated sight. do u think i give a ratz??

" everything about you screams "I want attention!!!" " look if that is what you wish to beleave about me than that is not my doing nore my problem, i simply do not care what you think. i no the truth.


back to the art work. the doll is accuilly a play on a baby bomber, that coffen rockes, representing the unsertinty of life and war. you really need to view the clip to understand it. I really do not care what you think of it ok, i have been toled that its a verry powerful art work inwhitch it is..

Nightfalls_Girl

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Why is it wrong for me to criticise this woman, when she is being TYPICAL.

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...just because your girlfriend broke up with you, there's no need for you
to take it out on a stranger on this forum. Maybe you should write a poem
about it. It might make you feel better.

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Don't talk of love
Well, I've heard the word before
It's sleeping in my memory
I won't disturb the slumber
Of feelings that have died
If I'd never loved,
I never would have cried

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http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Rhod..._am_a_rock.htm
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i will make up your neg w/ posts related to the tech. ... it is best that we do not continue in this thread ... you will undoubtedly keep pounding your "edgy & artistic" personality into this board but one day when you grow up, you will realize how little you and your "art" means

edit: the most typical argument when one criticises a woman is that one doesn't get laid... please! ... the one who doesn't get any, cannot AFFORD to criticise... 9 times out of 10 a man is nice to a woman because he is offering....

all i have to say is go and **** yourself you idiot.
your the one who needs to grow up, after all you started this thread.

Nightfalls_Girl

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it is best that we do not continue in this thread

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We might continue it without you. I hope you don't mind...
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This is my OPINION in which i have the right to express= Typical Male Chauvinist

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Originally posted here by etruscan
.. Although I understand that you as a woman you are offended by my post, I posted only to express my opinion about certain threads that do not really belong on AO. .. Why is it wrong for me to criticise this woman, when she is being TYPICAL. .. I just wanted to talk about tech..

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I am not offended. It's your opinion. I may not agree with it but not necessarily offended.

But I would like to point out a few things. Everyone brings something to this forum, whether it's technical expertise, web expertise or alternative view to life in general. We have a General Chit Chat forum and a Cosmos forum for all sorts of things tech and non-tech related. That's part of why they are there, IMHO. Life for many of us is not simply computers.

No one is saying it's wrong of you to criticize her. However, I believe it is a mistaken assumption to assume that Nightfalls_Girl is anything but typical. In fact, I think that's a wrong assumption of anyone here, male or female. Stereotyping someone means making general assumptions on someone without accurate facts. That is perhaps something worthwhile to consider. At the same time, I think it is a bit naive to assume that people will not offer their own opinion -- agreement or disagreement -- to your point of view. You are welcome to your opinion but you cannot fault others for having theirs.

This thread is hardly about tech. If Nightfalls_girls posts bother you, don't read them. You have the ability to choose what threads you want to read and what threads you don't want to read. Use that ability.

That said, the degradation of this whole thread has made me decide to close it. I would humbly suggest the following as options for the future:

If you are determined to continue this discussion, do it via conference or via Cosmos but do it with a bit of class. Please don't degrade yourself into simplistic name calling and verbal abuse. It doesn't solve anything, doesn't prove any points and rarely helps come to an understanding. Please understand I'm not a prude. I could probably swear many of you under the table thanks to some fine years in the Armed Forces (at the very least one does learn to swear well there) but I think debates and opinions are better presented when they are concise, to the point and present opinions backed up by facts.

Etruscan and Nightfalls_girl: AVOID EACH OTHER. Please.

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