How to ignore the proxy server

Hi Folks,

My Damned ISP is blocking all useful sites like hotmail, yahoo. and so on

So I just Want to know a way to ignore this damned proxy ?

PLZ If you know anything let me know? 'n I'll be greatful .....

Regards,

Goto google and search for other "free proxy" and follow the directions. They are more than likely using a transparent proxy (go into you internet settings and check your proxy info. If there are settings in there simple uncheck the boxes). If they aren't blocking ports then you may be able to just use someone elses proxy.

You're in Syria? Personally, I'd have to assume that if the Powes That Be are censoring access to sites like yahoo and hotmail, they will also be watching traffic heading to public proxy servers pretty darn closely. If you don't care about the risk of being closely scrutinized by the Secret Police Of The Powers That Be, you could check out http://www.publicproxyservers.com for information on anonymous proxying.

- Qualm

Thank you guyZ ?

But this popular proxies are potential targets for my ISP ,,,,

So they {popular proxies} not doing well at all

I heard that there is implementations to do this task without using proxy anymore ,,,,

da_zero,

Please allow me to give you some friendly and fatherly advice. The people you are trying to get around:

1. Have NO sense of humour.
2. Do NOT believe in Democracy
3. Do not take prisoners (for long)

I would suggest that you stop what you are trying to do before you end up in an unmarked grave.

They will not stop there.......you have to consider parents, wife, children, brothers, sisters?

Have you stopped to wonder why your country is on the United States' list of "do not send technology to"?????????

Cheers

hi all

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Have you stopped to wonder why your country is on the United States' list of "do not send technology to"?????????

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they can use third patry country to get technology.

@ the end :mad: well said nihil

coolcamel

Da-Zero: I second Nihil's advice and I too am a crusty old fart......

While I can't state it for a fact I would be very surprised if there aren't very strict rules and regulations that must be adhered to in order to become an ISP in your country. I'll guess ata couple of rules:-

1. You must filter the list of sites we tell you to.
2. You must force users through a single, monitorable gateway.
3. You must warn us of people trying to get around these and any other restrictions.

Do you see the third one? It is possible that you experiments prior to your questions here have already raised a pink flag..... Continued use of information and techniques to try to get around them will raise a _red_ one and that is when you will get the "gentle knock" on the door in the middle of the night.

I have an idea...... Take a vacation near a neighboring country's border, (Iran might be a bad choice right now..... Give it a year or so if you want to go east..... ;) ). While on the vacation with all that holiday money you took with you, ('cos you don't want to leave it to be stolen from your hotel room now, do you?), take a little walk towards the border, (just so you can see what the other country looks like.....). Of course, you never were any good at navigation were you so that extra mile or two you went past the border was simply your own incompetence.

Then you can fly from there to any country you like that lets you visit Hotmail and surf all that pr0n.......

Just don't keep trying to do it from there..... They aren't going to treat it like your some inquisitive kid..... As far as they will be concerned you will be a subversive and by the time they find you aren't they will have done things to you that they can't have you telling the others about...... Get my drift?

While I agree with the older gents here, but I'm also young and brazen, so here goes:)
I've read of something called webmail servers (someone please correct me if the term is wrong). These are servers that you send a message with the url of the web site that you're attempting to reach in the body of the message and they retrieve and e-mail the page that you requested and mail it back to you. You could probably google for a quick list of them, unless you're unable to access google...

Infernon:

From my younger days:- There are old pilots and there are bold pilots. But there are no old, bold pilots.

And let's be honest here..... How is he going to send an email to collect his email when he has to log in etc. to get to it....... ;)

eh... dunno if I have slept for for the past many years or missed something...
1a) in my head it says syria isn't the weird "slave colony" I read in previous replies...
1b) why would they kill people for viewing sites like hotmail and yohoo, especially hotmail isn't something like USA or isreal propagande infested evil stuff or anti-muslim or anti-syria or whatever
2) if an isp doesn't want you to connect to hotmail or yahoo there's better ways then to force the use of a proxy
3) isp's usually lack the capacity to monitor *all* traffic to see if someone *might* be *trying* to read a mail from hotmail or yahoo
4) it sounds more like the US is censoring things to syria then syria is censoring to itself
5) I could be wrong
6) imo I'm not
7) I wanted to say some things more but I forgot
8) I'll post them when they jump into my mind again
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look it is not a fully police state........... plus u can get around nothin will hapend...... the country wont carea bout the cyber crimes...... man in lebanon all our Pirated CD's r from syria..man syria is the main CD portal...... from the far east.......

man dA_zero

lek ya man , ru7 ala google u fatish ala proxy's mitil ma 2alulak...... bas lek al connection btibta2 ktir..... u lezim tgib proxy list kill youm... la2ino ktir bisakro..... u byif7a.... u lek man rfi2.. ken endo nafes al mishekle...... :)

neel:

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President Bashar al-Asad's government launched a crackdown on peaceful but outspoken advocates of reform in August, sending a clear message that it would tolerate a political opening only on its own terms and according to its own timetable. Authorities arrested leading critics and others active in the freewheeling discussion groups, or civil society forums, that emerged as Syrians sought to claim freedoms that had been denied them during the thirty-year rule of former president Hafez al-Asad. The arrests reversed a trend toward greater openness in a country long dominated by the ruling Arab Ba'th Socialist Party and institutions it controls, and followed earlier positive developments.

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Found at the World Report 2002

Yep, I'm sure they are right bloody sweethearts....... ;)

they're not what I'd call democratic but they aren't going to put you in an "unmarked grave" for using hotmail, those people are mostly people who want to change the current system wich would damage the current leaders's positions (and wallets)

and to make it a bit more juicy, compare these:
http://www.hrw.org/us/index.php
http://www.hrw.org/mideast/index.php
now I wouldn't call the US of A democratic either ;)

da_zero
some free email arabic site listed here no need for ignoring the proxy if just wana a free email.

my 2 cents
http://www.arabic.arabia.msn.com/?DC=true

coolcamel

Hi,

If the ISP is blocking hotmail and yahoo, it is certainly not because they have any objections to them as services. They are concerned with what people within the country might do with them as a means of free speech? If not, why block them?

If anyone has any doubts try a google search for "syrian secret police" I very much doubt if you will need to go beyond the first couple of many pages.

As a comparison, try MI5 and MI6, S.D.E.C.E or "secret police" with the name of any democratic country in the query. I hope that you will see the point.

Cheers

I'm supprised that the Syrian government has a problem with hotmail but not this site. Perhaps they are not aware of it, but this site is a big means of free speech and certainly contains it's share of "US propaganda" :D , espescially in the Cosmos section :D . But, I'm also interested about how to bypass a proxy, because my school (while not as oppressive as the Syrian government) has their own filter. I use dial-up, and my school has a T1 connection, but everywhere I try to go registers as porn (it isn't, most of the time ;) ) so I have to download it on my own machine, which is slow as hell. It would save me a lot of time to know how to get past their filter!

TheRepublican

Don't even try it!....................you will be caught and kicked out. Read your AUP or whatever, you know, the document you signed to get access to their SHARED, COSTLY resources.

If you want.......................ask .............................if you don't get, trust me, there is a reason ;)

If all students used the communal high speed link as they liked, it would soon become a very slow, unstable, worm infested link.

If you have a legitimate need for a high speed download, just ask the Admins. They don't bite, and I have never heard of them staking a student out over a red anthill for more than three days (they usually run out of honey by then :D )

Seriously, don't do it!

Cheers

Yeah, you're probably right. But it's kind of a waste early in the morning when no one is here to use it and you have to download a 150 Mb file and the filter says you can't.

TheRepublican: I can't believe that your school filters the web. Are you in high school or college? If its college... is it a religious school? (I've heard of some religious colleges filtering out websites... :rolleyes: )

Any college and technical school I've ever been to let you do practically whatever you want on the web. If they didn't, they could be interfeering with research. Info blocked by these filters only let students see part of the spectrum.... which is the wrong thing to do in any college.

You are paying for that bandwidth... I don't know why they wouldn't let you use it.

We are even allowed to login to a linux shell and download files there. We can only keep large files for aprox 5 days before they clear out the temp directories. Our home directories are only 100mb. I've found other servers in which most students don't know about thought. They have no quota and have over 500gb of free space! Each student even has a home drive on those boxes... and don't even know it.

EDIT: Just looked at your profile.

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A 13 year old in 8th grade, I can program in around 20 programming languages at this time.

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Thats why... they have to protect your young fragile little mind... LoL That is until you get home. When I was in middle/high school... we had NO filters. We could do whatever we wanted... and then again... no security what so ever! Those PCs were always acting up for some reason.... :rolleyes:

Unless you can convince your parents to get you a broadband connection... you're gonna have to wait till your a bit older for the schools to loosen up on you. Most people your age are not mature enough to handle unfiltered web. Even if you are... 90%+ of the people that go to your school are not.

phishphreek80, your school is pretty lenient. I think it depends on the admin at the school and the standard of security they hold. I know here at the college I'm at they limit access (or did) to IMs and you have a quota of space to use (avoids storing of "warez"). Students are given shell accounts only if their class requires it otherwise they install the OS required by the class (or their own if there isn't a requirement) and store stuff there.

And you're only paying for the right to use the bandwidth. That doesn't mean you own that resource. It's stilll the school that is held responsible if you go and do something illegal. Hence, the reason that many schools have AUPs.

That said, if the ISP is blocking access, have you looked at other ISPs or is this a national thing? If it is, the half-police state or not, there will be little that you can do as it is quite likely the proxy is farther up the pipe than the ISP. I wonder if some of the blocking is because of the amount of pr0n spams you get with those "free" email services. Have you looked at other web-based email services?

MsMittens: Thanks for your feedback. Guess I've been taking it for granted... All the schools that i've been to, don't really care what you do. Now, they don't let you install programs on PCs, or use p2p networks... but you can still download stuff if you really wanted to. They still allow IRC and DCC... The school I'm currently attending... is run by the state. Guess they really don't care? http://www.dtcc.edu/ It is a non profit school... if there is such a thing. We have teachers from the University of Delaware though... so we still get a great education, but at 1/3rd the price. http://www.udel.edu/

There is an easier safe way to do it if it isn't too late.

I didn't realize you lived in Syria. Get a job at the ISP. I am quite sure their admins don't block themeselves.

Well, I have tryed the method above, the forced proxy server. I got a list of servers from google, and every one I tried did'nt work. I narrowed my search to servers in the US and on port 80, because they won't disable the http port. It goes to find the server, and then I just get the can not find server error page. Any help is appreciated, thanks in advance.

phishphreek80 said:

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Most people your age are not mature enough to handle unfiltered web

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I know what you mean. Most of the guys at my school are total lusers (excluding clintonsucks, of course :p ). Until recently the school had a program that stopped kids from messing around with the computers there called fortress. This year they don't have it on any of the computers, and already kids are messing around with the computers, thinking they're real cool since they can change the desktop picture. Now every time I go on their computers the title bars of all the windows are in size 72 font, the mouse is in left-handed mode, and the desktop is set to some really idiotic picture. Now of course the librarians are totally baffled by this :rolleyes: and I have to use my time to fix my computer so that I can at least see the web page I'm visiting. I'm even thinking of writing my own program to restrict the settings on their computers!

But, back on topic, it wouldn't be so annoying if at least the stupid thing worked right, but it just says everything is porn and doesn't let me get through. It's quite annoying for when you want to download that huge compiler but instead see a message on how youngsters shouldn't look at porn :eek:

Edit - Just some spelling (sorry, I'm a perfectionist)

Hi TheRepublican,

I do feel sympathetic, as I suspect that you are probably a lot more socially mature than your peers. However, you will always find that you will be judged by the average or "lowest common denominator" of your set.

I guess that all schools are underfunded and underesourced, so they have to set policies to suit their budgets? At the moment, it appears that they have taken a "boys will be boys" attitude; I cannot say that I agree with them, as I would expect that the tidying up efforts must take a lot of resource. On the other hand, people (particularly "lusers") should learn some of the basics, as you will have to work with them later on in life :)

I can understand your frustration regarding the apparent under-utilisation of resources, but how can you be sure that is the case without seeing the service contract that your school has?

For example, I have a modest DSL connection..............I am restricted to 1Gb per 24 hours bandwidth. Now, say your school has 100Gb....you want a 150Mb file, then a 200Mb file, your pal wants a 400Mb file and so on .............. it is easy to see how over a half of your school's bandwidth could be eaten up before lessons even start.

A sysadmin's task is not an easy one........too little resource....you are to blame, too much resource...you are to blame............ at the end of the day it all comes down to $$$$$$$ :(

I am purely speculating here, as I have no idea of your environment, but if I were in authority in your school, I would look to set up an area with a few "donated" ex-corporate boxes, and let the less aware persons go and play on them. They would probably benefit, because it would take away some of their inhibitions, and they would not disrupt proper activities.

I WOULD NOT HAVE THIS AREA CONNECTED TO THE REAL NETWORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just a few thoughts, I thought you made an educated, polite response (is this AO?)

Good Luck

EDIT: I think your sysadmins are playing a bit of psychological warfare here.........instead of saying "prOn site" the message should read:

"The school have determined that the site you wish to visit is not in your educational interests or that of the school"

:D

Yeah, you're probably right, but the thing is my school district has never been big on saving money. Right now they are paying 119.5 million dollars on remodelling their schools, and still all my teachers are complaining about the supposed "paper shortage". Kinda gives you an idea of where there priorities lay...

As for what my school's plan is, it is true that I do not know. But, I have downloaded a lot of stuff there, although it is all microsoft crap (good thing is they let that through ;) ), and no one has ever told me that I am using up too much bandwidth. I know that they have a T1 line from my talks with the computers teacher there. So, without more information (i.e. talking to the admin, who has been known to go for a month without answering requests, even from a teacher!) I am led to the conclusion that they like wasting resources.

Also, the library computers that we have do appear to be donated boxes, but they did connect then to the LAN which was a stupid mistake because now a student can reformat a network drive and get everyone kicked off school computers.

BTW: I was joking about that message. Really it just spits out a generic "you are not permitted to access this site because it is pornography" message ;)

Hi, TheRepublican ,

I did understand that the prOn message was a "generic defect" (hey do you like that pun :D )

There should not be a reason for the library computers to connect to the school network, other than through a secure link that the librarian has?

They are heading for "interesting times" as the Chinese proverb goes....?

BTW if you use the expression "prOn", everyone gets the message, and it does not get picked up by sleazy search engines :)

With that amount going ($$$$ you mentioned) I think you should post a job application form under "general chit chat. :D

If you have a legitimate request at school, I would suggest that the "proper channels" are to talk to your teacher first, and explain what you want to do, the volumes of data involved, why you need to do it, and all that. It is up to your teacher to take that up with the Administration?

You must learn patience grasshopper.......although I guess that TV series was way before your time (Kung Fu...David Carradine???)

Good Luck

They sure are heading for interesting times...
I'll try to remember that prOn thing, this is the first forum site I've been on and I don't know all the lingo...
Yeah, patience has never been one of my strong suits...

Thanks for the advice, nihil