http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/h...et/3197446.stm
Wht ya'll think about this..............
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/h...et/3197446.stm
Wht ya'll think about this..............
This surprises me that he was found not guilty. Normally the courts slam "hackers" because of the image media produces. I guess they couldn't convict him if he was innocent, but I'm sure they tried every trick in the book to do it.
just my 2 cents
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The teenager told the court that hackers operated legally, but that people who entered computer systems illegally were known as "crackers".
At least he has his facts straight, a good point that should be brought to light more often yet I doubt it will matter. Thats my two pennies. :)
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I am happy for him... this is all I can say
hey cross...i checked the link and its still working.....
I found out another hacking news rather interesting..........check this out
"Feds admit error in hacking conviction"
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105_2-5092697.html
I feel like if your time is bad.......u could end up in prison for no wrong doing, or if ur time is good u could walk free even if you did some crime..........
How could you prove your innocence if your comp has been used by someone to hack into other systems..................
There will always be a problem in getting a conviction in a jury trial, mainly because the jurors do not understand the subject. The same can be said of complex fraud trials.
The basic tenet is that "reasonable doubt" = "not guilty"
The major problem is that you have to prove that the person had exclusive access to the computer at the time, and the presence of a RAT or backdoor would mean that this was not the case. However, suppose he loaded the malware himself, just to provide a defence in case he got caught?
The trouble is that the police and prosecuters over here are pretty computer illiterate themselves :(
My question is: if the guy was that damned 7337 or whatever they call themselves, how come he let his machine get infected? the hacker hacked, I don't think so :rolleyes:
Just my thoughts on it all
Cheers
nice point there nihil
wouldn't totally agree with you there nihil .... NCIS aren't bad - your local bobby might be clueless but thats not to say all areas of law enforcement in the UK areQuote:
The trouble is that the police and prosecuters over here are pretty computer illiterate themselves
I think he may have been trying to play down his 7337n355 in anattempt to get off the accusations..... double bluff kinda thing... either that or he is a smeghead
Z
Well Zonewalker,
I hear what you say, but look at the pay rates in Civil Service (government) jobs.............."if you pay peanuts, you only deserve to employ monkeys" :)
I am a very cynical old fart, and think that the gentleman would be better off changing his name by deed poll to "Richard Cranium Esq." :D
We are no way near the USA when it comes to computer crime detection, on the other hand we probably have fewer incidences right now?
Anyhow, I think he would look rather cute with a prison haircut :D
Sorry about the "English" slant to this post folks.........please PM me if you want graphic explanations.
Cheers
nihil...LOL...
true, can't disagree with you on that and certainly this does apply to certain areas but having said that a lot (not all I'll agree) of the guys (and gals) in NCIS are dedicated to the job - and knowing some of the stuff they have to look through (I think you also know something about this, yes?) - I can't blame them wanting to catch some of these buggers.Quote:
if you pay peanuts, you only deserve to employ monkeys
cynical... aye me too... but you have 20 odd years on me I think?
you're right we aren't anywhere near the US when it comes to computer crime detection... I'm not sure if it's because we have fewer incidences (proportionally speaking) but I think that our boys tend to look at a wider picture first before using the tech (mainly cos it costs so damn much) .... for example with money laundering scams, it's easier to go through insurance claims and bank transactions etc than look for some geek at the end of a computer. Guess it's just differences in the way the US and UK crime agencies go about stuff and the fact that US law agencies tend to have more cash (can you see Inspector Morse driving a tank like the LAPD?? ).... though I know UK and US are starting to work closer on some things - notably terrorism.
As for Mr Cranium... I think he'd need a butt plug too :D
I'm also sorry about going way off topic and the English slant (half a bottle of Champage brandy will do that to me) ... please continue to direct all enquiries to nihil :D
Z