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I thought this was cool when I read it. but I am still wondering if it is worth the time to actually bother doing anything with it
A small chip-design firm will unveil a new processor Tuesday it says will transform ordinary desktop PCs and laptops into supercomputers. The new chip is a parallel processor capable of performing 25 billion floating-point operations per second, or 25 gigaflops.
http://www.wired.com/news/technology...ory_page_prev2
I know this probably isn't relevant, but I wonder hot such a machine would run. My poor PIV labtop gets hot when I leave it on more than an hour. In the article they mention the Earth Simulator, found site about that which is pretty interesting. http://www.nec.com/global/features/index9.html
I've read that there is some sort of theory predicting the rate at which processors are developed, I wonder if this chip is in sync with that theory. I belive is has been pretty accurate so far.
DeafLamb
EDIT: Opps, missed the page 2 link. You'll see
Most likely it is If they want to start turning every computer into a powerhouse system they should have some sort of advanced cooling system that is much better then what is on todays processors.
I agree with the advanced cooling systems. I know some people that have built some pretty interesting things. One friend who was also into cars built a custome case out of some car parts and used water cooling through the car's radiater which he mounted above his desk. A radiater fan was then hooked up to a motor that recived power via a wall outlet. Made a lot of noise but as far as I know his machine never overheated.
I doubt such a setup would work in business setting, but it looks damn cool.
DeafLamb
So much for the special cooling needs...Quote:
ClearSpeed said the new chip is also very low-power, operating at about 2 watts, which would allow it to run off a laptop battery and wouldn't require special cooling.
"At 3 watts, you could put it in a PCMCIA card," said McIntosh-Smith. "With two chips on a PC Card, you can have 50 gigaflops on a laptop, running off a battery. That's equivalent to a small Linux cluster on your notebook."
Heheh sounds like he is a mad scientist But I bet it is cool to look at in spite of the noise it makes
Good God! Thats awesome! I know my AMD box gets so hot that sometimes I think of using my ex GFs heart as a heat sink for it.
I had one other friend that mounted his motherboard inside a mini-refregerator like the type you find in hotel rooms. The only problem was that it was an old fridge, and about a month of having it running the compressor stopped working. He didn't notice untill his computer wouldn't start cause the board was so hot.
The fridge with no cooling trapped all the heat that the machine created. It was a valient attempt though, even though i'm sure it has been attempted before.
I believe that I have seen some pictures of peoples systems that have put their computers in all kinds of odd things such as in a wooden desk drawer, a milk crate and inside a old CRT monitor and the funny thing is that they all run perfectly fine with no problems what so ever.
Let me send you my ex-wife's heart instead....even in the heat of passion it only got to about 10 degrees above absolute zero...Quote:
Originally posted here by gore
Good God! Thats awesome! I know my AMD box gets so hot that sometimes I think of using my ex GFs heart as a heat sink for it.
Wow I bet you have called her the ice Queen if her heart is that cold :cold:
Believe me....I've called her a lot more than that....Quote:
Originally posted here by DeadAddict
Wow I bet you have called her the ice Queen if her heart is that cold :cold:
;)
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Originally posted here by allenb1963
Let me send you my ex-wife's heart instead....even in the heat of passion it only got to about 10 degrees above absolute zero...
That's great.
If I was rich, I would run a whole room full of those processors :-o, that'll kick ass. But at 16, I'm happy w/a computer that works :)
That would be over kill to fill a room with them I could think of better things to do with that money such as Take a nice vacation :D
with a room full of processors ;) In all seriousness, that looks awsome. I can not wait until they are availible to the public at under $1k a pop, or the black market price is under $1k a pop. Sooooo sweet, fast!Quote:
I could think of better things to do with that money such as Take a nice vacation
Normal everyday software wouldn't take advantage of all that processing power and for a average home user it would probably be a waste unless you were editing video, or needed a render farm if you were making CGI scenes
Take for granted that I can't afford the latest hardware, but nothing is fast enough for video editing. The worst is when you crash during the last couple moments of a long render.
Crashes are either very rare or never happen at all when running linux :D
I do run linux, but have yet to try it for video editing, do you know any good software for such a thing. Currently I use Final Cut Pro 3 on a Mac. For DVD creation I use DVD Studio Pro 1.5.
Any good ideas on replacement of any of this would be welcomed as building a Linux PC is much cheaper then upgrading my Mac.
thanks
DeafLamb
The idea seem cool.. but..
***Bottleneck***
the super performance will be limited by the slowest link in the system.. or the bottle neck.. in a pci card config.. the data i/o will be limited by the PCI Bus speed same on the pcmcia card use.. also access to reasonable memory.. while systems memspeeds are high.. you will be limited by the pci or whatever mobo buss that is used..
geez never thought I would be cynical.. prob just jealous because I cant get one now.. or be able to afford one in a years time..
Cheers
If you're interested in case modding, watercooling and other hardware hacking (xbox) take a look here: http://www.i-hacked.com/
They even have a howto on how to build a pc running mame into a old pacman cabinet.
well then i'll drop my plans of buying a p-4 but this does thing doesn't tell anything about RAM
i thiught super computers need a lot of RAM well mine is 128 mb so lets wait n c!!
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PROUD TO BE A HINDU....
Yeah, but my Seti @ Home scores would kick @ss! ;)Quote:
Originally posted here by DeadAddict
Normal everyday software wouldn't take advantage of all that processing power and for a average home user it would probably be a waste unless you were editing video, or needed a render farm if you were making CGI scenes
Thats crap even if the processor was able to do all that;
1. It would be so f%#$ing expensive it isnt funny
2. you would have to buy a motherboard of that capablities
3. almost all people wouldnt need it anyway ( except me ;)
4. if you would want a very good computer just buy a dam server it would be cheaper
Very similar to another older hoax in fact:
http://www.chipcenter.com/columns/bmcginty/col002.html
You be the judge.
catch
Well, it will only cost about US$25k to put one of these together when the chips hit production, assuming they stay on schedule. That will give us time to find grant funding, a rich uncle, or swing a deal with that Nigerian who keeps sending me these emails. Hmmm ... wonder what OS would work best on this?
600 gFlops pushing out through a 600 mHz front side bus. Yeah!
Is there any other reason to have this much power on the desktop at home?Quote:
Yeah, but my Seti @ Home scores would kick @ss!
BTW, anyone know what these chips are made of? Unobtainium?
;)
Galium Arsenide prolly? DOD applications were using 40 GHz GaAs chips back in the early 80's, so I can only imagine where that technology has gone by now. (I'd be surprised if they've gone above 40GHz, but prolly have tremendous on chip parallel stuff.)Quote:
BTW, anyone know what these chips are made of? Unobtainium?
However with these chips I suspect, if it is not actually a hoax, that the focus is more on the breadth of the architecture rather than the frequency/stamp rate. these kind of multiple channels would have some unreal race condition possibilities, so I suspect secure environments with existing common operating systems would be a poor choice. ;)
catch
Man with these chips there is going to be a massive surge in technology everywhere. Even small labs without much funding could have a more than ample workstation to do work on. I can't wait to see the results.
Plus I want one: Anyone want to donate to my server appreciation fund? I have like 5 dollars, I only need 24,995 more.
Hmmm... You could be watching over a 100 different... *cough*... adult... *cough* movies at once. :-DQuote:
Is there any other reason to have this much power on the desktop at home?
AJ
Yeah, well ... uh ... I have enough trouble with my imagination. Don't need that kind of help, thank you.
;)
40GHz ... *drool* ... pardon me.... had to put that out there. :-DQuote:
Originally posted here by catch
Galium Arsenide prolly? DOD applications were using 40 GHz GaAs chips back in the early 80's, so I can only imagine where that technology has gone by now.
Hey Mom, if you're watching ;)... someone would love one of those for christmas ;).... lmao....
But seriously, HS thats allotta power, would make for a fun wargame experience or multiplayer LAN gaming with a server at the center... or even just rendering some killer pictures.
my 2 pasos worth,
nano
/me wonders where he can get one of those DoD setups used... ;) ... ... :p