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How Do I? or What Is?
Hello,
I haven't been around for a very long while, but haven't forgotten that you all were here. So, here I am with a new question.
Recently, I took some digital photographs of my daughter at a Halloween Party held at a club near where we live. I've used the digital camera on several occassions without any problems in the resulting pictures.
Several years ago, I was briefly interested in paranormal things and read some about "orbs" sometimes thought to be energy transferred between people and things or sometimes thought to be ghosts. Which is correct, I have no idea. One of life's greatest mysteries perhaps, but that's not why I'm here today exactly...
Several of the pictures... well, most of the pictures I took of my girl at this Halloween Party contained those energy orbs and being what I precieved at not sendable or ruined, I deleted all of those. Keeping only 3 or 4 of the party pictures. My husband is in the Navy and returned from deployment recently. A few days ago, he's browsing through the few pictures of our daughters party, since he missed it, and asks me if this was all that I'd took. I told him No, I'd taken several but nearly all of them were filled with these orbs and our daughter wasn't much visible, blurry, or whatever. I got rid of every picture I thought worthless. He's made it clear that he'd like to have seen these ruined pictures, but what can I do, they're gone right?
Last night, I'm watching Law & Order on TV, not unusual. This particular show has to do illegal internet activities. The police take the computer into their custody and are able to retrieve email and picture files, even those that were deleted from the disk, as if deleted files aren't really deleted.
My question is, was this just something made up for the show, or are our files not really deleted? If it's not really deleted then where do these deleted files go in order to make room for the new things we put on our computers. Better still, do I still have the ruined photo's of our daughters Halloween party with the energy orbs? Is there some way I can still show those to my husband since he really wanted to see the orbs (ghosts) floating about this Navy base's most popular club and our 3 year old daughter?
Thanks for everyone's time that reads and I look forward to any repllies.
Sincerely,
LisaDarln
PS: I did keep one picture of her on the dance floor. There's one orb in this one, if anyone wants to see it.
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yes....when things are put into the trash..(and the trash is emptied) they are gone
as to weither you have the pics....did you emptie the trash
? if not..simply restore them to there location they weere deleted from..
quick question....what did the 'orbs' have to do with your question at all?...
not judging or any thing.....but really..cmon now
:):)::)
David
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The show is correct. When you delete files there are not actually gone. They just have the space reclaimed as free by the harddrive. The only way to securely "delete" things off your harddrive is to write consecutive 0's and 1's over and over again until the data cannot be retirieved. As for your Halloween orbs, it depends on how long ago, and how much data was written over the top of them.
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Well, when you delete a file from windows, all windows does is mark it as available space to be written over. It does not actually delete it. Heres some links to Data recover. Now more than likely, you would have to pay for this, but maybe you can find something.
This company allows you to recover up to 1MB of data for free, I know that might not be a loty of pictures, but maybe it'll let you see whats still on your hard drive
http://www.recallusa.com/
http://www.b******.net/ This company has a free version
Good luck
edit: looks liek someone beat me to it.
lol
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Actually when you empty the recycle bin it is still there the file can still be recovered
to find out more about erasing files off of your hardrive http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=250632
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As others have stated when you delete a file it is not actually gone - windows simply removes the flag from that area of your disk so that you can simply write informaton over it. As long as you havn't overwritten the data too many times you can still recover it - tho the more it has been written over the harder it is to do (see the DoD matrix on datadeletion -> http://www.zdelete.com/dod.htm)
a quick search on google and downloads.com turned up these links ::
http://www.ontrack.com/easyrecovery/
http://www.b******.net/
http://download.com.com/3000-2094-10212994.html
http://download.com.com/3000-2094-6730657.html
http://download.com.com/3000-2094-6730657.html
seems that you can get trials but your prolly gonna have to pay if you want to do it properly - but if your deleting stuff by accident on a regular basis might be a good idea to invest ;)
btw:: not a big thing but you mgiht get a better response next time if you posted in like Newbie Ques or GCC as how do i is for questions related to site features and how to use them
v_Ln
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Base?
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Originally posted here by AllYourBase
can i see the picture?
So what is your point for the post ALLYOURBASE?
The question is valid, albeit a bit unusual with the paranormal stements.
Get a life. :o
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Trya very good recovery software called Pc Inspector File recovery
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**moved thread from How Do I to Misc Security. Renamed thread so title isn't as vague**
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Hi LisaDarln,
My fellow members have already given you some good links on data recovery software. Your chances of recovery are dependent on the amount of activity on your machine, and whether you have defragmented the hard drive.
If you have deleted the files using windows explorer, they would generally just go into your recycle bin, and can generally be recovered from that, using its inbuilt recovery command. This assumes that you have not emptied it.
My contribution is that you actually have TWO possibilities here:
1. Recover from the hard drive
2. Recover from the memory in your digital camera
If you have not overwritten the image in your digital camera's memory it is still there.
http://home.nexgo.de/christian_grau/dir/index.html
The product is called "Digital Image Recovery" it used to be free, but I am not sure about the latest version. You may have to do a search for a freeware site that has the older versions?
The principle is the same as for your HDD. Just connect the camera to your PC and scan its memory with this software.
If you have trouble finding it, please let me know and I will try to find out where I got it from. I think it was on a magazine CD, in which case it is probably in their website archives somewhere.
I would like to see the picture with the "orb" on it. I have been a keen photographer for 40 years and would suggest that they are more than likely "artifacts" produced by light reflections on the inner lens surfaces. This is why you get "lens hoods" for conventional cameras :) Remember that although your camera is "digital" its capture mechanism is still optical.
EDIT: It was a Haloween party, so the lighting would be low, with a good number of point sources (individual lightbulbs). Your camera aperture would be wide open, which explains the "orb" effect. When you take a backlit subject in daylight, the aperture is partly "stopped down" so you get a "polygon" effect.
Good luck
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Thank you all for the information you've given me, on both my probable errors in picture taking and that the pictures might still be retrievable.
I'll take a look at the software for the camera and see about the memory thing from the camera that Nihil suggested, but beyond that I'm not going to bother.
I thought the process might have been easier, like they're hidden now and to unhide them I'd do something, or input some command into the Run box, or do something in the registry... or some such.
I don't feel the need to satisfy my husband's mild curiosty of why the pictures were ruined to the point of paying someone in order to retrieve them or taking time to download and install some other program free or otherwise, especially when there seems to be no guarantee they're still there anyway. It's been about a month.
Still it's good information know, in the event something important does get damaged or inadvertantly deleted.
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Hi LisaD.
Please try your "Recycle Bin" recovery, they may be there.
Also, please do not think that I suggested that you had made any errors in your picture taking. I was merely relating a few experiences that I have had over the years. I also have a very open mind to psychic phenomena, so I would like to have a look at one if possible, there is an awful lot of stuff that cannot be explained "logically/scientifically"
I was only going to look to see if it was scientifically explicable :)
Good luck
BTW If you have NOT used the camera since then, your pictures are DEFINATELY recoverable using my method #2
Cheers
