A Plane hit the Pentagon?

This is nothing new, but merely what was supposed to have happened on September 11th.

http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero...erreurs_en.htm

Basically what you'll find there is a walk-through of photographs and quotes that will give you a good impression that the Pentagon was not hit by an airplane, even on the surface, but instead merely hit by a much smaller explosion.

Four years ago, I would've blown this off. It just seems like the US is lying to us more and more these days. ::Sigh::

Originally I got this link through www.TeeGeeAck.com a conspiracy website that occasionally lets good things like this show.

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What does everyone think about this?

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Originally I got this link through www.TeeGeeAck.com a conspiracy website that occasionally lets good things like this show.

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personally, I think its a bunch of BS.

that you got this from a conspiracy site, I believe should be another reason why I doubt this information.

They do have a fair amount of good information amongst the BS. Did you look at the website? I checked out the sources, and they do check out.

So basically, you want me to believe that the government blew up its own building? Do you remember watching the news, and hearing eye witenesses talking about seeing the plane fly low and hit the building?

Okay, if the plane didn't hit the Pentagon, then where did it crash? And where is the crater it made at this other crash site? It didn't simply disappear. Some of those bodies were recovered, so the plane must have crashed somewhere. That tends to leave a big mark on the ground and a lot of witnesses. And how were bodies pulled out of the Pentagon that were on the plane?

Yeah, I mean theres to many witnesses, to disprove your theory SonofGalen. People saw the plane hit the pentagon, We know it crashed. It had to crash there for two reasons.
1. people saw it hit
2. theres no other crater anywhere like striek pointed. out.

In one of those pictures, they were questioning why they reseeded the lawn when it was unscathed. Heres my reason. Jet fuel will kill grass. so will Diesel Fuel. The firetrucks use diesel Fuel. More than likely, some of this diesel fuel leed onto the grassy. Secondly, the Jet Fuel probably also was all over the grass. There only option to keep the lawn looking nice was to reseed it.

You have all have valid points, and I don't know one way or the other, and never have. As for re-seeding the lawn and jet fuel killing the grass, they did it so quickly that the fuel would've killed the grass anyway.

Eye witnesses? We also had eye witnesses that there was no UFO at Roswell, that it was a weather balloon. The same for the opposite. Eye witnesses are valuable, yes. So are those photos. ::Shrugs:: I don't know.

But we are talking about hundreds of people seeing this thing. Not just a couple of farmers.

The fact that you cannot find aircraft debris in the photos provided means absolutely nothing. Look at the photos of the crash site in Pennsylvania. There wasn't much identifiable debris there, either. The main difference between the aircraft at the Pentagon, WTC and Pennsylvania and any other air crash site is that the planes were flown full throttle into their targets with a full load of fuel.

The aluminum as used in aircraft, at the temperatures ignited by the crashes, evaporates. It doesn't melt or turn into twisted structures like steel.

I used to make aluminum horse shoes for racehorses. You heat the aluminum shoe in a propane forge. You have to watch carefully, or the shoe just disappears when it gets too hot. That's what happened to most of the aircraft.

Never knew that. That's a good point. The only thing left that supports their case at all is the very little damage that was done, although that's not nearly enough to indicate anything either way. You brought up a good point. Thanks.

::Star and rainbow shows up, music plays:: The more you know...

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The aluminum as used in aircraft, at the temperatures ignited by the crashes, evaporates. It doesn't melt or turn into twisted structures like steel.

I used to make aluminum horse shoes for racehorses. You heat the aluminum shoe in a propane forge. You have to watch carefully, or the shoe just disappears when it gets too hot. That's what happened to most of the aircraft.

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One other thing that might explain why that much of the building was not damaged.

If you've ever touched an airplane wings, its not veryt sturdy at all. Like rapier said it is made out of aluminum. When that airplane hit the pentagon, more than likely doing 400mph+, the intesity of the heat from the explosion would be more than enough to disintegrate the wings. After all, that where all the fuel is held is in the wings. Sure the wings probably hit a little bit, but also remember that it was clipping poles on its way in. So when it did hit the building the wings probably folded backwards.

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So basically, you want me to believe that the government blew up its own building? Do you remember watching the news, and hearing eye witenesses talking about seeing the plane fly low and hit the building?

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Never said any such thing. I believe the article suggested it was a bus, still a terrorist type thing, but still..

As for "a couple of farmers" do some real research, there were more than that. Doesn't matter though.

Another conspiracy debunked by AO. I knew you guys wouldn't let me down. :-)

We are your 24 hour research team dude :)

I do know that there was far less people with the roswell thing that what there was with with the pentagon thing.

"I do know that there was far less people with the roswell thing that what there was with with the pentagon thing."

There were several hundred people who have come forward with Roswell information, especially if you count the ex-military folk...but that's a moot point.

Perhaps I'll bring conspiracy stuff to the boards regularly, see how much support we can find, or how much we can destroy. :-)

lol

That would be kind interesting I suppose.

Perhaps AO should have its own Debate team??
lol

This is the sort of thing that is fun, and at a place like AO there are enough smart people, who know enough weird things, that we can have fun with this.

::Grins:: There are enough things that I still don't know about that asking around here can help me out a good deal.

Have any of you ever been to a crash site of a large airplane? I have been to several, and not to be shouting 'conspiracy', but the photo's shown on that site and others I have seen, do leave a lot of unanswered questions. Not having been there, I couldn't even begin to answer any of them, and I doubt that anyone could get any straight answers out of our government (they just don't operate that way).

SonOfGalen, something you should consider is that the Pentagon, before 9/11 had been going through a series of remodlings. The section of the Pentagon that was hit was the only wedge of the Pentagon for which the remodling had been completed. During the renovations, there were several things that were done to improve the survivability of the structure in the event of a catastrophic event. The primary thing that limited the damage from the rest of the Pentagon was due to the use of kevlar (I think it was Kevlar, don't remember exactly now) fabric between rooms/main structural elements. This severely limited the effect of the explosion.

I will look around and see if I can find any public references to the above information. To me, it sounds like you have gone off the deep end of consipiracy theories.

/nebulus

Here ya go:
http://www.architectureweek.com/2001/1003/news_1-2.html

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Also on the exterior walls, between the steel columns, the renovation crew had placed Kevlar cloth, similar to the material used for bullet-proof vests. This had the effect of holding together building materials so they wouldn't become deadly projectiles in an explosion.

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