Here's something for you guys to ponder, with re-elections coming to America, there is the big question. What are the chances of Bush getting re-elected?
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Here's something for you guys to ponder, with re-elections coming to America, there is the big question. What are the chances of Bush getting re-elected?
if the economy dosn't improve, i will doubt that he will even want to run.
no because of that and because not many people agreed with the whole going to iraq thing.
I think and I hope that he will get re-elected.
I see the economy starting to come back up.
The dow and the Nasdaq have been on an upward climb for several weeks now.
I imagine that Bush will get re-elected - the War in Iraq issue has swung in his favour now that Sadaam has been captured. He'll use September 11th, Iraq etc. to stir up some nationalist pride in the hope that will gain him enough votes to return to the White House.
I think if he is re-elected we're all morons.
he is going to lie to us like he lied in Iraq i belive, i never fell for it and will not. elect him.
btw: he was not elected by the people on the first election but rather by the electoral votes, i doubt that Americans will elect him again.
I for one will place my vote for him.
I think if he gets re-elected, the economy will start to improve as it is already starting to do right now.
I like Bush he has balls, I don't care if he may not be an eloquent speaker (just look at Arnold S.) we need a strong leader that can set their own standard. Now, there may be a better electorial choice but as for now he has my vote.
I know there was a lot of debate about the war in Iraq. But we accomplished what we wanted. I feel that as an American I was not cheated out of something, finally a president that completes what he is set out to do.
In another note - Presidents rarely make a huge impact on society in their first term, they usually have to clean up the mess of their predessesor or just bask in the glory of how good their predessessor was.......Bush - Clinton - Bush maybe that is why we are having troubles!
I am not trying to start anything just my point of view.
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I'm gonna move this to Cosmos, that seems to be the place to debate Bush. Plus there is a strict no-ap rule there and this could get out of hand easy.
If you are in the business of economics, and I mean real economics outisde of ABC, NBC, local liberal/conservative blog, etc. you already know the economy is ramping up. The fact is everywhere and in every indicator. In fact I am taking some measly scrapings and buying stocks.
Unless the Democrats come up with something I can relate too, I will vote for Bush as I stand today. I guess I am gullable to lies and deceit, I can't think for myself. My mommy dresses me everyday and I wear diapers. I also collect chads and pretend the government is out to destroy mylife out of millions. The cameras at intersections are mind control devices and the air force used alien technology to make us a super power.
and the cia killed john lenin
also jfk father wasn't a bootlegger
Since the no AP rule is in effect here I can feel free in saying that the majority of people that replied here are ...... Er.... Stupid...... You are following your hearts not your minds.... And that is stupid....
The economy is racing forward, unemploymemt is going down, Saddam is captured and the Democrats have a future candidate that, in order to get the nomination, has travelled so far to the left that he cannot come back and woo the "undecide's" vote simply because he is too far left......
Think poeple... THINK!.......
And that is _exactly_ why Hillary is staying out of the race..... 2008 is her chosen battleground.... But she won't win then if things are going well for America..... Because that's not what the Democrats need..... They need "issues", problems, bad things...... Then they have a chance.....
- Speak for your self. I hope Bush is re-elected, I'm voting for him. If anyone is a moron it's those three people who eat paste (j/k). As for the democratic front runner.. (bleh) Dean dosen't have what it takes to be president. I won't be convinced by polls, the media or anyone else that Dean is beating Bush in the election. Bashing Bush, his policies, and the situation in Iraq will not get my vote and Hillary will never get my vote. I guess I am also gullable to lies and deceit, I can't think for myself. My, oh my, whatever shall I do...Quote:
I think if he is re-elected we're all morons.
*jumps up and down and waves to Remote_Access
Good to see you.
I'm going to stay out of this because it's going to get ugly, these conversations always do. I will say that I am not voting for George Bush, not even if my only other option was a monkey in coveralls.
And I would have preferred Juridians solution of shoving crayons up his nose rather than sniffing paste :D
This has nothing to do with the topic at hand but..
**Hiya Deb!** :D
Guys guys guys, one thing you need to know about politics is it's not who people WILL vote for, it's who they WON'T vote for. People may bitch and complain about Bush's tenure if they disagree with it, but when it comes time to show me the money as it were, it's more about the Democrat candidate motivating the ~50% of americans who DIDN'T vote to get out there and vote. There is no doubt in my mind that Al Gore would have won the last election had the voter turnout been higher, but honestly, you guys were in a bad spot. It was either a giggling idiot or the man who invented the internet...
I know how this sorta crap works because I too had to live with the decisions of others to stay home. For 8 years we had a gov't in Ontario that was against the unions, we had record numbers of strikes on all fronts (teachers, health care workers, emergency services, etc), and any time the federal government wanted to increase money going to welfare recipients, the provincial government decreased it by the amount of increase. It was really bad, and rather frustrating to have voted for the other guys. To be honest though, I don't think the other guy was the best choice. Sometimes people are left with only bad decisions to make, it's figuring out which of the two is the lesser evil that's the trick.
Bush is From Texas!
At this point in time, there isn't anybody in the Democratic camp that can beat Bush. Dean is his closest rival and he's trailing by 20+ points, according to the last poll I saw (if you believe polls). The fact that ABC, NBC, and CBS are all doing their damndest to find something wrong with Bush leads me to believe he's on a serious roll.
The economy is rebounding as I knew it would. It began to fade toward the end of the Clinton years and it takes several years to recover. The war on terror, if it isn't going as well as we would like, is keeping the bad guys heads down. If you keep them running, they can't act. Remember, Bush said that it would be a long war. The trouble with America is, many Americans don't have the backbone to sustain a long war, or the casualties that are sure to result.
I thought at Sept 11th that we were damned lucky to have Bush in office and not Gore. If you recall, a few Democrats in Washington were mumbling the same thing.
I like Dean. He's a Vermonter (bred if not born), and if Vermont has turned somewhat liberal and swung a little left, it isn't the Vermonter that's drifted that way, it's the leftwing immigrants from NY and Massachusetts who have ruined our State. I'm a transplanted Vermonter, born and bred. I like Dean. He's done a lot for my home state, but I'm voting for Bush.
Well said man, I think you hit it right on the head.Quote:
Originally posted here by Tiger Shark
The economy is racing forward, unemploymemt is going down, Saddam is captured and the Democrats have a future candidate that, in order to get the nomination, has travelled so far to the left that he cannot come back and woo the "undecide's" vote simply because he is too far left......
Think poeple... THINK!.......
And that is _exactly_ why Hillary is staying out of the race..... 2008 is her chosen battleground.... But she won't win then if things are going well for America..... Because that's not what the Democrats need..... They need "issues", problems, bad things...... Then they have a chance.....
The economy is doing well, but the latest jobs report is a little concerning. Hopefully this next tax cut will stimulate that a bit more by the next one. I hope it will.
Ah yes, my favorite Democrat at the moment Howard Dean.... I pray at night he wins the nomination. Dean is going to be, by far, the most lethal blow the Democratic party has suffered in some time. With the endorsement of both Bill Bradley and Al Gore, Dean is well on his way to nab the nomination. I almost feel bad for Democrats like Liberman and Clark, because I sense that they realize Dean is well on his merry way to sink the party. We could pour over his stumbles all day long... quote_after_quote...... it goes_on_and_on_and_on.....
I have a feeling Andy Card is going to have a field-day with Dean.
Speaking as a Republican, if the Dems want to pick up anything other than minuscule votes in the South they are FAR better off with either Liberman or Clark. I like Liberman the most out of the two. Even I could live with Liberman as President, and trust me, that's saying something.
I wonder if Hillary will fare the same as Dean; only popular with the far left "base".
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Secure, when Hillary runs she'll be popular with a lot of NYC extremely far left liberals. She didn't do that well in upstate NY. If NYC weren't there, she'd have lost. She'll carry NY, Massachusetts (of course), probably Connecticut and the Left Coast, maybe a few States here and there in the middle. Those are big number electoral votes. I won't even try to guess who the Republican might be. Hillary can't win, but I'll have my bags packed and affairs in order just in case. If she wins, I'm leaving (after I carefully hide all my guns).
Well said Chuck. I too wonder who the Republican will be. After all, the odds are against her on this one and there has never even been a women President before. Not sure if the "men folk" are ready for that just yet.... Haha... J/K
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Oops, I meant Karl Rove. :rolleyes:Quote:
I have a feeling Andy Card is going to have a field-day with Dean.
Got too excited there I guess....
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I really have no problem with Dean. He was a maverick governor in Vermont, sort of irritating to both Dems and Reps while he was in office. He's a bit too liberal and left wing for me on the one hand, but in some other things he's right of center quite a ways. Like I said, I won't vote for him but if, say, McCain or a few others like him were the Republican candidate I would.
If Dean should pull off the miracle and win, I think we could have a worse President. Kerry, for example, or Gephardt (who always reminds me of a talking corpse when I see him on tv).
I do, I don't think Dean would be tough enough on terrorism.
After all, he is the very same man who recently said: "I've resisted pronouncing a sentence before guilt is found" when talking about Osama. Is this guy kidding me?
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I don't think there's a Democrat running who would be tough on terrorism. Clark was a general but he's way too close to the Clintons. The last Democrat who I would trust to do something was Jack Kennedy and, if he were alive and running today, he'd be a Republican. I couldn't stand either of his brothers, but I did like him although I was a kid and my memories might be clouded.
Bottom line, it's gotta be Bush this year and pray somebody decent comes along in 2008 who can send Bill and Hillary (Billary) back to Arkansas, if Arkansas will take them back.
I agree, but I think Liberman (based on what he has said and done (way he has voted) in the past) would do an ok job on keeping us safe. That's the reason I said earlier I wouldn't die if he were elected. However, he is trailing way behind in most polls, so he shouldn't be of any concern.
Perhaps if Bill Frist would consider running in 2008... who doesn't like that guy?
"Billary".... that's priceless! lol
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I'd forgotten about Frist. He's not well known enough now, which is irrelevant to four yrs from now. One that I liked, dropped out of politics, was Fred Thompson from Tennessee. 2008 is a long way off when you consider the American public can't remember longer than 6 months. I'm confident that someone will rise to the top.
I love Fred Thompson, his home town is only around 35 or so minutes from where I am right now. Fred's not a bad actor either. We were out there just last week visiting the Amish folks. You know, those people know how to make some good chocolate among other things. It's like stepping back in time... Pretty cool.
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The wife and I are headed back to New England visit her family in April via I-40. I want to stop in the Amish area in Pennsylvania to have a look see. I have a lot of respect for those people.
I've eaten in a Mennonite restaurant in Iowa (similar to Amish) and I could become addicted to that food real fast.
Fred Thompson would make a good candidate. He looks like a President, if that makes sense.
Yeah, I respect them too, even though they have chosen that way of life for themselves. Hell, when you think about it, that's the way our ancestors were living not too terribly long ago.
I think Fred has also played a few Presidents in his acting career too, but you're right, he does look like a President. I imagine he would have some kind of appeal to the left, being an actor and all. It also looks like he has a fairly good track record as a senator.
From what I just read, he dropped out of politics because of the death of his daughter in 2002.
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My reasoning is that he's conservative and pro gun, which is one of the things I look at in a candidate. Not the only thing, certainly, and I will vote for an anti gun candidate if other positions are to my liking. I can always hide my guns, or simply not register or give them up. None are on any paperwork anywhere.
I don't know how much he would appeal to the left since his track record is conservative and more to the right. Being an actor, though, probably wouldn't hurt. He might get the 4 or 5 conservative actors in Hollywood to support him. I wouldn't look for the Barbra Streisand crowd to be in his camp.
Yeah, as long as they are conservative, pro-gun, not against religion, support Israel, pro-life, and are willing to fight terrorism and be tough on crime then I will vote for them. Sounds like he fits that mold.
Yeah, I definately won't be holding my breath waiting for the Streisand crowd (if that day should arrive).
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