bush's space program

alright so... the econm yis in shamble's we are in a war, spending plenty of money on terrorism and homeland security. what should we do to help out in this time of need.... hmm.... I KNOW... let's restart the space program

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The president wants to aggressively reinvigorate the space program, still reeling from the Columbia tragedy nearly one year ago, said the officials, speaking on condition of anonymity.

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he wants to spend billions to put a science base on the moon, more mars rovers and eventually men on mars... as much as i think space exploration is interesting and may help us unravel the secrets of our universe... is now really the time to spend this money? on top of that... it seems odd that all bush did the first three years in office was take vacations and start wars... however... now that 2004 has started he is proposing all sorts of plans and starting all sorts of money spending plans

Dont you see? This will help us revitalize the economy and help us defeat terrorism! Its all part of Bush's master plan! </sarcasm>

..Or mankinds optimal future is in Space. The society that capitolizes on that is the next super power. Isn't there people on the space station stuck up there?

even if mankind's future were to be in space... we can't afford to be looking inot it right now... and besides... it's not the space race of the 60's... no one else is really trying.... also... the russian's space station is the worst.. .it's all run down and the people on it are in danger of dying

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Originally posted here by lord_darkside_x
even if mankind's future were to be in space... we can't afford to be looking inot it right now... and besides... it's not the space race of the 60's... no one else is really trying.... also... the russian's space station is the worst.. .it's all run down and the people on it are in danger of dying

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Didnt the Russians kill teir space station for that reason about 2 years back? (If you're talking about MIR)

As for the new plans to strap men to copious amounts of explosives and launch them into mars, i do believe they could have come at a better time -- although i thought one of his [Dubyas] reasons for sparking this new interest was that "the American economy is improving"? Dont quote me on that.

But at the end of the day; *someone* has to beat 'those damn ruskies' :D

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Didnt the Russians kill teir space station for that reason about 2 years back? (If you're talking about MIR)

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i had thought so too... but now there was another article in the news the other day about how the space station is rotting up there and there are two people on it that are in danger... also that they fear it could eventually fall out of orbit and land somewhere... or pieces of it

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-- although i thought one of his [Dubyas] reasons for sparking this new interest was that "the American economy is improving"? Dont quote me on that.

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the economy is not improving... the dollar is down in all markets... hell the euro is worth like $1.28USD. dubya's response was, i am optimistic.... so the economy is not getting better... but he's hoping it will... he thinks it might... he's hopeful about it.... and by the way... i did quote ya...

Damn it havent you heard of Irelands space race program, we are sending somebody up with a pint of Guinness to see if he can drink it up there, if he can't well there aint much point going up is there?

Lot's a great things have come about since the space programs have been started. Of course, I myself am not a huge fan of going to mars, but it does have other benefits.

I love the hypocrisy coming from the left, they bitch when you don't have a space program and when you finally introduce an idea/plan, they shoot it down and stomp all over it. Laughable really, but I'm not a huge fan of it either, although I must say, watching the politics of the whole thing is rather interesting.

The dems never miss a great opportunity to capitilize on something they can make political gains off of, even when it's something they claim to be for on any other day.

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i haven't seen a lot of democrats calling for a new space program with the current state of the economy... esp with us being at war... i think that what alot of democrats have done lately is the same thing i am saying/doing and that is saying"well sure i am all for the space program but this is a stupid idea/bad time for it"

Good point there darkside, but it still smells of political opportunity.

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Innis, Guinness doesn't travell that well, you should no that.

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i had thought so too... but now there was another article in the news the other day about how the space station is rotting up there and there are two people on it that are in danger... also that they fear it could eventually fall out of orbit and land somewhere... or pieces of it

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Mir space station fell back to earth, actually was driven out of orbit into a fiery death. They WERE afraid it would decay into an uncontrolled decent, so they crashed it on purpose minimizing it's danger by crashing it into the ocean. The command module was launched in 1986 during the cold war. When it was destroyed it had played home to over 100 people, including Americans and other nationalities in the name of peaceful relationships and cooperation. At least in my opinion, it was a great space craft even with failing parts and dangerous circumstances that left everyone, who cared, on earth holding their breath. ;)

I was referring to the NEW space station. The International Space Station, it's not falling apart. It does have a crew on it. Fortunately for them and others, there is a backup to the space shuttle since it burned up in a fiery entry last summer. :( Expedition 8, I have actually intercepted transmission from it. :D They were launched from Baikonur Cosmodrome last October and docked a couple days later, it's interesting and fun to see NASA and RKA using both of their facilities and cooperating.

The downlink and uplinks for packet radio are 145.80 and 145.99 respectively.

If that article was written after 2001 then it's full of BS.

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Originally posted here by Ennis
Damn it havent you heard of Irelands space race program, we are sending somebody up with a pint of Guinness to see if he can drink it up there, if he can't well there aint much point going up is there?

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Brilliant!

Guiness has low (if any) carbonation. It would be perfect!

the USA now depends on russian rockets to propell their astronouts to the ISS (international space station)..
The Space shuttle is about as obsolete as a C64 in a cybercafe !

The 60 called they want their space race back !!!

The only reason I can see is G.W.Bush thinking that if all Americans look up to the skies they don't see the starving people in the street and the fact that education in USA is at an all time low is proppably only good for getting more votes..

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Originally posted here by the_JinX
The only reason I can see is G.W.Bush thinking that if all Americans look up to the skies they don't see the starving people in the street and the fact that education in USA is at an all time low is proppably only good for getting more votes..

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Jinx - Just an FYI, counting on gaining political prosperity by debasing America is a LOOOONG standing Democratic party ploy, not a Republican standard.

Education in America is at a all time low for a wide variety of reasons. My personal opinion is that the lack of 2 parent families and a school systems that teaches our childern that it is OK to fail, as long as you try your best attitude, are America's two biggest problems. In the future, President Bush's plan of standardized testing will ensure a minimal and demonstrated learning level, and will be a significant benefit to America. Thus leading to the obvious here, - Education is a Major political issue in America, along with Illegal immigration, political spending on campaign funds, etc. If President Bush was atempting to distract the American people from issues at home, he would be ignoring these issues at home. President Bush has not ignored domestic issues, rather he has addressed each one in turn.

As for Starving people in the streets of America - There are plenty of programs in America available for feeding the Hungry, providing shelter, teaching of workforce skills etc. The truly homeless people in America are those people that are either addicts of some sorts, utterly lazy, or to proud to take a job that is considered "beneath" their capabilities. Digging ditches to put food on the table for my family would not be enjoyable, but I would gladly do so to provide for my family.

President Bush wants to push for the stars because Americans are know to be over achievers when provided with a vision and a plan. What better vision is there than to spur the inventive imagination of the American people with the prospect of colonizing space?

Don't take it personally, but Americans are known for being arrogant and spending more then they need to. That's the general rep anyway. Chances are Bush wants to go to the moon because he doesn't realise no one really care about it since we've been there already and wants to go to mars in the hope of finding life there he can start a war with. I want to know what they are really going to do once we get there. Fish? Come on, prepare terroforming plans or stay home.

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Chances are Bush wants to go to the moon because he doesn't realise no one really care about it since we've been there already and wants to go to mars in the hope of finding life there he can start a war with.

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No offense, but that's just ridiculous.

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I want to know what they are really going to do once we get there. Fish?

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Now that's a legitimate question.

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Come on, prepare terroforming plans or stay home.

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I wholly agree.


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Ennis
Might be a bit late but didnt they scrap the guinness project? I heard that they had too many technical problems. Firstly someone kept drinking the pint of Guinness used in the simulations and secondly some boffin realised that in the almost zero gravity of close space it would take three seperate space flights to finish the mission.
First flight to pull the first draught. Wait three to six months for it to settle. Second to pull the second draught. Wait three to six months for it too settle. Third the all important flight to drink it.
I think the eireonauts(irish for astronaut) got decided it was just easier to get pissed in the local. :D