Is it possible to run different AV for differnt account on same PC for realtime protection, and how can I do that?
// THX
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Is it possible to run different AV for differnt account on same PC for realtime protection, and how can I do that?
// THX
windows??
yes, it's possible.
but do not try this with av running as service.
easiest way :
log in as the specific user and install your choosen product
if the setup tells ya that you need admin rights to install
it would be installed as service, so you can't use it.
What are you hoping to achieve here?
If you have an AV you are happy with, would you not want all users to have it?
I am confused
That's a good question , nihil.....I can't think of a good reason. I don't get it either. :confused:
Wouldn't you and the other account be sharring the same harddrive? If so, just use active scanning for your AV and it should be good to go....Or at least I think thats what you're asking.
I think that it can be good to use becouse all AV companies do updates differnt quick and good.
If one PC uses some different AV for differnt uses it can add protection if uses uses own account and if it is "lof of" uses that have own acconts can use on PC. Evry "new" AV wll scan~protect PC each time new user logged in.
Well instead of having to install another AV program.
Why dont you just use one of the many free on-line virus scanners ?
[1] Trend Micro - HouseCall
[2] BitDefender Scan Online
[3] Panda ActiveScan
There's more but these are just a few ....
There is also a slight problem with doing that. Lets just say that for example you have Windows XP so you set up another account for another family member . So you install another anti-virus program just incase your anti-virus program misses a virus. Well you keep your anti-virus program up-to-date. So with you all is well so far. But how will you know if the other anti-virus program that is installed is being kept up-to-date by the other user ?
Well you really wont unless if you remind them or if you do it yourself. But of couse the program could also remind the user. But the user might get annoyed by the message telling them to up-date their virus definitions and they just might ignore it.
So basically that second anti-virus program that you just installed just became useless.
That's just my opinion though.
Yes, may be you are right. But i think to do full automatical update system that will (almost) not show any messages about update and + make one "more" automatical update on my account and keep both of AV on separat HD +one "install free AV" on flash USB that will be updated to from scheduler. // I did one one part of that on one of my PCs and that works // Secound step is to install two different AV // I havent "any good" FW and i think that i dont need it for home PCs if other programs can protect it. I need just some "FW" that can just block portscanners and ping and that will allow all programs to access internet and block some that will access to my PC. // Thats all I think.
Yeee , nihil good AV and FW does'nt exist, becous i getting sometimes viruses that one AV can and other AV cannot find. !!!-> We are using '.'minimum'.' protection on our PCs <-!!! // When we are online.// I just trying to teach me how it warks and if is possible and how i do that //
Thx
Huh, this sounds rather complicated...
And complicate things are just waiting for you to forget something, so everything goes blown away...
It would be more efective to teach all people that use your computer how to avoid being infected...
the best answer for everything is always the simplest one!
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This idea is complete crap. Here's why.
Say that he has NAV installed for one user and stinky Pete's AV and weather checker installed for another user. You can't run both AV scanners at one time so how the hell does this help you? You'll have to login and scan the drive under each user that has a different AV scanner.
Not that this even crossed his mind but some AV products don't play nice together, mainly because normal individuals don't go to the store (or Kazaa) and grab several AV scanners and install them all. Have you ever seen what happens when you install two AV scanners that add LSPs to the stack? I have and let's just say that you'll have the safest computer on the planet because you wont be getting out to the internet anytime soon.
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B4 I used one AV for realtime protection and one for secoundary scan efter downloading of some file, and it works.
I tried~tested to install two AV on my PC for realtime protection and my Pc crashed. Then I tried do it for different account and it did'nt work.
// How to ....? To get what U want? //
hehe ;)
I think that i must know how AV works that I should be able to errase unneded or replace items to other startup places.
OK MrBabis, I understand you now.
Thehorse13 is quite right about some AVs "not playing nice together". The general rule is that whilst you can have as many AVs as you like to run "on demand" you really should only have one running interactively/real time scanning.
McAfee for example will detect another AV and tell you to remove it first. Other AVs will see the pattern files of their rivals and mistake them for viruses, or they will spot what is in the quarantine folder of another AV and try to fix it. They might even interfere with eachother such that viruses get through?
LSPs..............If the layered service provider stack in Winsock2 gets corrupted, you won't need an AV.............as he says you won't get on the internet!.........at least not so that you could actually do anything.
If you have two AVs running for different users, then only one is protecting you at any one time, and they only do a very quick memory and boot sector scan when you boot up. So you are not getting much additional protection.
You would be better off selecting an AV that updates daily, or paying the money for one with hourly updates, and setting the automatic update feature. Then get a trojan detector/blocker and a firewall (Agnitum is a reasonable free one). I would also get a script blocker if the AV doesn't contain one.
Please be aware that AVs are poor at detecting spyware and trojans. The latest review I have read put F-Secure and Kaspersky at the top, with AVG and Norton equal in the "average" position. You must be sure to have heuristic scanning turned "on"
Good luck
Thx all for help, little me will continue with my testing, hehe ;)
Just one last Q. Do some one know some "non install AV" like
http://www.sald.com/ >>>>> http://www.sald.com/get.html ???
I know just (online scan) sites and some scanners like
http://www.avast.com/i_idt_1060.html
http://www.mwti.net/antivirus/free_utilities.asp
No need install, simle AV can be good to uses in critical situation.
It helps me when I repairing others (my friends PCs) computers
THX ALL for help one more time
Well these are demos of the products to let you test them out before you buy them.
So you would have to install them.
Why dont you just recommend to your friends to purchase a good reliable anti-virus program ? Or even better download one of the many free ones that are available out there.Quote:
No need install, simle AV can be good to uses in critical situation.
It helps me when I repairing others (my friends PCs) computers
Feel free to correct me if am wrong.
Agent_Steal, I agree with you mate! No excuse for not having an AV and firewall AND keeping them up to date, then just boot into safe mode.........?
Mr. Babis, I know what you are talking about, but I am not sure that they are available any more? McAfee and Norton used to do that sort of thing but now there are so many viruses around, I don't think that they do?......you would need too many floppy disks :)
You might be able to get something simple that will boot the machine and check memory/mbr but the windows malware has to be fought from within windows.
With Win2k and XP try booting safe mode with network support and going onto the net for an online scan.
I think that the days of the "silver bullet" have gone?
cheers
Nihil
I know that Norton installation comes on bootable CD with dos versions of ther programs... but definitions are far from up-to-date... version 2004 has definitons from August 2003... when program was published.
You can always make repair disk set, but that will take aprox 5 floppies. And what anoys me that it doesn't load files from flopies in a row, but you have to change them so many times... grrrr....
I am almost done with it :)
I need just some tweak or prog that can run apps on log off and efter that i will be able to run two AV for different users on one PC.
// I am using DrWeb and PC-Cillin 2002 for testing //
// DrWeb was("is") my favorite untill i found one vir that it couldnot detect -> i posted it to them so thay did update. And now I am looking for somthing else.... some of AV did'nt completed my tests or couldnot find vir, so I want more [little bit hungy].
*Norton = *McAfee (i found one vir in kazaa that for this AV took ~3 weeks to update, heh & uninst problem)
-AntiVir (could not find any vir that i got)
^AVG ~ *AVAST ( pretty good, but i dont realy like them )
*Kaspersky ~ #DrWeb (crashes [of other progs on install] and complex to use)
Sophos (cannot say anything. i didnt test it)
It is what I think //
I could find right processes and services (-> i disabled them) so I can run them separat, heh thats works.
I will use cmd line utilite for shutdown.
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