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I tried to do a "shutdown -f -s -m //timcomp" on one of my network computers from my computer and it came back with "access denied". anybody know how to set up a windows xp computer so that it can be shut down remotely and have messages sent to it with net send, etc.
This is a nice app for that and a lot more
http://www.beyondlogic.org/consultin...BeyondExec.htm
Have fun!
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/fr...shutdown.shtml
I'm going to recommend that before Tedob1, I know if he sees this he will recommend the same thing. It allows you to specify a username and password for the shutdown command. The problem is that you are trying to shutdown the computer with what I guess is the guest account, and I believe it also tries the username and password you're logged on with, but maybe not. But this tool should do the trick for you, letting you specify a username and password with the priviledges to shutdown the computer.
it still doesnt work, i tried it with psshutdown and it said something to the effect of not enought priveleges. I dont know why, none of these computers have passwords on them, so i've only been entering a username. thanx alot for the programs tho.
I remember having the same problem, and it went away when I disabled simple file sharing to just have the old file sharing. I also couldn't access the c$ shares before I did this. If you really want to remotely shutdown the computer I guess you should disable it. I'll test it in just a second, I just got a fresh install of XP pro. Is this XP pro or home, cause home only has simple file sharing. Anyways, I'll test it, and if what I said is the case, I'll edit this to say what I did.Quote:
Originally posted here by Phonedog911
it still doesnt work, i tried it with psshutdown and it said something to the effect of not enought priveleges. I dont know why, none of these computers have passwords on them, so i've only been entering a username. thanx alot for the programs tho.
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Ok here's what I did, I was using the main account on my computer, the one that is created when you install(it's an admin account).
1. Tried with simple file sharing on and no password with my username and failed with psshutdown
2. Set a password then tried a again with the password, still failed.
3. Turned off simple file sharing, took off password and tried with no password, still failed.
4. Left simple file sharing off and set a password, worked fine specifying an admin username and password with psshutdown.
Here's how you turn off simple file sharing, just open up my computer, and go to view>folder options...
under folder options click the view tab, and at the very bottom there is a checkbox to allow simple file sharing, but this is only in XP pro, uncheck that box, and click apply. You should now be able to shutdown that computer. I could be wrong, but that's how it worked for me. Good luck.
In other words:Quote:
The problem is that you are trying to shutdown the computer with what I guess is the guest account, and I believe it also tries the username and password you're logged on with
If you are trying any of this from a Guest or a Limited user account you will fail.
vis:your account is not a member of the administrators group OR You are on an os that is not of the NT FAmily (I think this returns a different error)Quote:
and it said something to the effect of not enought priveleges.
cheers
actually, i am on an administrator account all... we dont really have a need to have limited users priveleges for any accounts because its a home network. and all of the comps are running windows XP home edition, so they are all NT systems. I'll try disabling simple file sharing, but if i cant what do i do? get up and walk down the stairs to shut down my computer? That is completely out of the question :p
curses! foiled again [h3r3tic]
you might find it really usefull to install RealVNC on them all. then you can copy the vnc viewer to %system%, rename it vnc.exe and just open a run box and enter 'vnc machinename' and have complete access to the desktop and the entire system on all the remotes. shut it down, logon as a different user run programs whatever. really beats the hell out of stairs.
your boxen might be set up not to allow remote shutdown. enter gpedit.msc in the run box and check it out (windows settings>>security settings >>local policys >> security options)....can you get a shell using psexec? (psexec \\mach_name -s cmd) if you can and dont want to be bothered with any of this then with shutdown.exe in the path go 'psexex \\remote_mach -c shutdown.exe /c' (or whatever flags the ver your using requires) then the shutdown comand will be seen as local by the remote.
i tried psexec and it says unknown username or bad password, sometimes it says something about admin$ but i forgot what the exact error message is. ill try putting a password on the comp, maybe thats what the problem is
install realvnc its free.
http://www.realvnc.com/
so, there is no way for me to use shutdown -m, psshutdown or psexec with windows xp home. my only option would be to install realvnc on my computer in order to manage it remotely through the network? correct?
I'm sure there are options, I'll be working on it, and let you know if I find anything. I have a laptop with home on it. You may want to use realVNC anyway, just cause you can shut it down, and a whole lot more. You can do anything remotely that you would be able to do locally if you have a VNC server on the computer. But I'll try and figure out how to get psshutdown to work on XP home.
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hrrm...
Gosh Darnit, I can't figure out how to do it on XP home. Something like VNC may be your only option, and it definetly isn't a bad one. Definetly check it out.
i have this problem on some (but not all) dell gx260s and on no other machines as yet. the problem seems to go away if winpoet has been installed. this is just an observation and i haven't had the time to look into the changes made by a winpppovere install. you can try installing then disableing the start of it on these machines if your sure you network has been configured correctly ang your internet configuration is dsl.
Just for grins and giggles why don’t you enable the telnet server on a remote. in the telnet server configuration set the ntlm option to setting “1” and see if the server accepts your password that way.
thanx for the support h3r3tic. ill use realvnc for now, but i'd really like to figure out why shutdown -m, psshutdown and psexec dont work. it keeps me up at night, know what i mean?
can't use blank passwords with pstools. If you don't want to put passwords on the user accounts that you use to login with then make another user account, place it in the admin group and put a password on it. Then use psshutdown with the username and password switch. I've never used the pstools on a network without domin controllers so I'm not sure on the syntax for the username. You may have to type it like this: [computername]\[username].
We had this same problem in my A+ class, and all we did was disable simple file sharing, and that (seemed to) work pretty well.\
While on the subject, I like tightvnc since vnc is open source.... www.tightvnc.com
There is an option in the local security policy, this is assuming you are not using domain GPO, that enables or disables remote reboot functionality.
In windows 2000 it is in the local security settings MMC.
Local policies-
User Rights Assignments-
Force shutdown from a remote system
I know there is a similiar setting in XP, but it may be in a different area in the local security policy settings. In win2k this remote reboot is allowed for the administrators group only by default. I'm not sure how the default is set in XP. It would make sense that administrators would be listed but perhaps you ran a "lockdown" script that changed this for you. This setting would be the first place I would look.
There is a "Force Shutdown from a Remote System" privilege setting in Windows. Admins usually have this by default.
Now I'm not certain, but you're running XP/Home and since that has only a subset of LAN/Networking rights it may not allow remote shutdown thru normal means.
Here's a small function for VB that will shutdown a machine remotely (for LOType give it the numeral '5' for forced shutdown):
Public Function ShutDownEx(Server, User, Password, LOType)
On Error Resume Next
Dim Connection, WQL, SystemClass, System
Dim Locator
Dim RC
Dim x
LOType = CInt(LOType)
Set Locator = CreateObject("WbemScripting.SWbemLocator")
Set Connection = Locator.ConnectServer(Server, "root\cimv2", User, Password)
If Err.Number <> 0 Then
x = MsgBox(Err.Number & " " & Err.Description, vbOKOnly, "Error")
Err.Clear
Exit Function
End If
WQL = "Select Name From Win32_OperatingSystem"
Set SystemClass = Connection.ExecQuery(WQL)
For Each System In SystemClass
RC = System.Win32ShutDown(LOType)
Next
If Err.Number <> 0 Then
x = MsgBox(Err.Number & " " & Err.Description, vbOKOnly, "Error")
Else
x = MsgBox("DONE!", vbOKOnly, "Success")
End If
End Function
cool, im trying the vb code now. just curious, does anybody know the reason that it wont work without simple filesharing disabled? whats the difference between simple and the old way?
I believe the way simple file sharing works, is that you can only use the guest account to connect with it on. That means no user shares. I had the same problem with accessing the C$, I couldn't do it without simple file sharing disabled. I guess when you turn it off, it just allows you to use specific users instead of guest to connect, that's my theory at least.
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I don't know about that. There are a few more features, luckily I bought mine from my school for 10 bucks. Universities seem to have all sorts of discounts on software. Are you going to school anywhere, cause you should check them out.Quote:
i knew i should have spent that extra $50 on xp professional...
i knew i should have spent that extra $50 on xp professional...
Phonedog, you have to realize that XP home and professional are very different in their networking models. I don't even use a home edition and I think most of us are running into a lack of knowlege on it's part. :)
im still in high school :(
I thought that the biggest difference between the home and pro was the home was 'stand alone' and the pro could network as server ?
also isn't the guest account disabled by default?
it is in W2K Pro, possibly the reason that remote shutdown not working as standard is that it is not set to ?
You can only use the Home version in a Workgroup. The Pro version let's you join a domain.
That's the biggest difference.
True about the lack of domain support, there is also a limitation to the amount of peer to peer networking you can do. I think the limit is 5 licenses. The major difference for me when insalling it at home was the lack of security. They seriously scaled the security components down and limited access to some of the commands. For instance I don't think there is access to administrative tools and remote desktop and I am 95 percent sure, the remote shutdown commande is a subset of remote desktop being enabled. Additional NTFS capabilities are also missing.
I was trying to think of a work around based on what I know about XP but if a set of commands are missing then you have to rely on 3rd party apps like others have stated. What happens when you try it from the local machine?