fun with IRC losers

This comes from #virus on Undernet....home of where that lamer Gigabyte got busted. Get ready for a good Laugh

<ratman> Gigabyte = big LOSER!. SHE should have done more positive things
<z3r0kewl> like, money to the poor?
<ratman> like being a White Hat
<z3r0kewl> she should've been a whitehat?
<ratman> and not gotten herself ****ing busted
<z3r0kewl> well?
<ratman> she would have been a good WH....but now that's like all wasted
<z3r0kewl> are you a ****ing whitehat?
<z3r0kewl> whitehats are the scum of the earth
<uNdErX> whitehat are a legend, there's no such thing.
<z3r0kewl> go **** carolyn meinel or your favourite bugtraq fahg
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<ratman> yeah, i'm a ****ing WH and damn proud of it. I've helped people all over
<z3r0kewl> oh wow
<z3r0kewl> i haven't.
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<z3r0kewl> i write codes, not lecture idiots to boost my self-esteem
<ratman> you ought to try it sometime....very honorable work
<z3r0kewl> how about not?
<z3r0kewl> i prefer spending my time making money and writting viruses
<ratman> more honorable that Gigabyte sitting in Jail
<z3r0kewl> how old are you?
<ratman> 25
<z3r0kewl> 17?
<z3r0kewl> hm
<z3r0kewl> were you in 'the special group' in high-school?
<ratman> been hacking since I was 5
<z3r0kewl> haha
<uNdErX> honorable work, research exploits and do not release then, the same evil concept is in scene, if u're researching is cuz u want to broke, if u want to broke u're evil there's no difference.
<z3r0kewl> you have not been 'hacking' since you were 5
<z3r0kewl> you're another retard that things he has a cause
<uNdErX> the real whitehat is the average computer user that doesn't know nothing about nothing, any evil intention in it.
<SWaNk-> WH 're like woman, they're money suckers.. mercenary ppl
<ratman> at least I'm not getting busted
<ratman> something Gigabyte didn't learn
<z3r0kewl> neither am i
<ratman> not it's too late for her
<ratman> now
<z3r0kewl> dude
<z3r0kewl> the reason you're not busted is because you haven't done anything
<z3r0kewl> retards teaching retards is a pretty harmless occupation
<z3r0kewl> show me some codes to proof you have skill and i might change my mind
<ratman> dude, the reason I haven't been busted is because I know what's cool and what ain't cool
<z3r0kewl> oh yah?
<z3r0kewl> are you going to lecture us on the love of jesus christ next?
<ratman> no lol
<z3r0kewl> as i said, show me you have skill, and i might change my mind
<z3r0kewl> so far you've just been a clueless moron

Gets kickbanned by the lamers

Actually the only reason why I posted that article here was because I thought it was funny that someone who has been in the middle of media hype for years now is being used as what appears to be just another kind of a scare tactic.

For **** sakes, If I knew it would have been blown up into something just like everything else involveing her... then I would have never posted it here, man.

[edited] I've been accused of being a cynical and depressive guy by everyone from Joe Blow AO noobies to damned Deb. MsM and a few others have even gone as far as saying im "funny" sometimes. Have I taken the advise given to me by some of those damn tree huging Care-Bears? Hell no... What makes you think your preaching will be any different on them when compaired to all those times peaple have preached to me? [/edited]

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Originally posted here by |The|Specialist
Actually the only reason why I posted that article here was because I thought it was funny that someone who has been in the middle of media hype for years now is being used as what appears to be just another kind of a scare tactic.

For ****ing sakes, If I knew it would have been blown up into something just like everything else involveing her... then I would have never posted it here, man.

[edited] I've been accused of being a cynical and depressive guy by everyone from Joe Blow AO noobie to damned Deb. MsM and a few others have even gone as far as saying im "funny" sometimes. Have I taken the advise given to me by some of those damn tree huging Care-Bears? Hell no... What makes you think your preaching will be any different on them when compaired to all those times peaple have preached to me? [/edited]

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You always hope it sinks into one or two of those guys. But it prob won't sink into any of those guys. The really sad part is here we have a girl with extreme talent out there (you just don't see alot of that in girls). Now, she's basically gone and totally BLOWN that talent big time by coding nastyware. Even the police commented on how sad it is. Eliza has that kind of talent, that I can see is just beginning to get started off as a newbie at the age of 22. The FIRST thing I told her is to NOT get into trouble, because it will come down bad on you if you do. Gigabyte didn't learn this critical lesson, and now she's gonna be paying for it. Sad :(.

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ratman3 says :
The really sad part is here we have a girl with extreme talent out there (you just don't see alot of that in girls).

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I found that offensive. Plenty of women are very talented. And did you ever stop and think that most women would not advertise their gender for (at least) 2 darn good reasons:
1) So they don't have to listen to the almighty male try and patronize them; and
2) To ward off the weirdos.

Of course this is from a"girl".. so feel free to disregard it.

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Originally posted here by meeeeeee
:fpissed:

I found that offensive. Plenty of women are very talented. And did you ever stop and think that most women would not advertise their gender for (at least) 2 darn good reasons:
1) So they don't have to listen to the almighty male try and patronize them; and
2) To ward off the weirdos.

Of course this is from a"girl".. so feel free to disregard it.

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I do aplogize. There was no offense intended by that comment. I just have not seen (in my own experience) that many women have that kind of talent. No sexism was intended.

Hmm... GigaByte is Belgian, she'll have to face Belgian justice, not American. She'll walk ;)

Yes thats correct. In Texas however they would just hang, shoot, or gas peaple who are seen as being the criminal type. But in Georgia we just tie them to trees and make them squeeeeel like a pig before execution. http://www.texasonline.net/langley/columns/chubby.htm

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Originally posted here by |The|Specialist
Yes thats correct. In Texas however they would just hang, shoot, or gas peaple who are seen as being the criminal type. But in Georgia we just tie them to trees and make them squeeeeel like a pig before execution. http://www.texasonline.net/langley/columns/chubby.htm

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A movie about Georgia that was actually filmed in Northern Ontario. A friend of mine's sister won a dinner with Burt Reynolds during a radio publicity stunt while they were shooting that movie.

ratman: your comment about females was rather uncalled for. Just look at the knowledge level around this site, there are some very talent women around here. I really think you should stop talking about Eliza, we'er all sick of hearing about "her". I quote her because I still think you've made her up :). Anyways who's to say how much "real talent" GigaByte had? Seems more to me like she was just another skiddie with too much time on her hands. I don't consider anyone who writes and releases virus code to the wild to be talented, the fact that they'd do something so stupid proves a lack of intelligence. When I used to code (I've dropped off as of late), I used to write single PC virii that did their damage, however they never even touched a machine that was on a network. I had a stand-alone just for virii testing. I don't consider the fact that I wrote them to be a talent, I look back on it as being stupid and childish, even though I never released them. Someone who releases it is way worse. As for your comedy... I didn't laugh. Why is everyone so obsessed with these terms, white hat, grey hat, black hat... How about purple hats to identify gay hackers? or pink hats for the girls and blue hats for the boys? Although the comment is rude and politically incorrect, I've heard it several times, "Arguing on IRC is like winning the special olympics, even if you win you are still a retard". I don't like the wording of this because it's an insult to those whom are mentally challenged and strive to succeed at something like the special olympics but in your case, it seems to fit. Especially considering you are 25.... I mean seriously... couldn't you find better things to do with your time?

She didn't seem like she intentionally released any of them. I saw an interveiw with her on TechTV. She was kind of cute.

As for no girls....What about Evil Angelica? She's owned more boxes than a warehouse.

Negative is quite right, it will be Belgian/European laws that apply.

Actually, writing viruses is not a crime in most countries. :)

If you look in the virus descriptions of the major AV companies you will find that maybe a half of them are "not in the wild"...................they have been written in laboratories or submitted by third parties..................none of those people have been arrested, nor will they be.

To prosecute you would have to prove criminal intent? I first saw Gigabyte's site about 18 months ago when I was working with a Gigabyte MoBo and did a google search, so she hasn't been hiding in the shadows?.........hardly criminal behaviour?

All they can really go for is the Belgian equivalents of:

1. Incitement to commit a crime
2. Conspiracy to commit crime
3. Aiding and abetting
4. Accessory after the fact

All of these are pretty circumstantial and difficult to prove?

In the UK we have statutes that proscribe the sale of alcohol, fireworks, tobacco, lottery tickets etc. to people that are below a certain age, but we have no laws against supplying people with computer viruses! So it would have to be prosecuted along the lines that I have mentioned above.

I guess in the UK she would get off with a "police caution" or at worst be "bound over" in a lower court............which means having to pay a fine if you get caught again within a certain time (I think the maximum is 1 year?)

I think that it is media hype because she is a girl, and "girls generally don't do that sort of thing". That is NOT being sexist, it is being statistical :)

Cheers

ratman:

What make whitehats so 'good' they publish known vuln to the public then what happens ? another worm is relesed another mass auto rooter is modified and the **** hits the fan and some inoccent admin gets r00ted or some home user gets infected by this new malware that is set to DoS some site and where did they get this info places like FUll Disclosure i have never heard of a worm that was wrote with 0day except maybe the morris worm ;) some one correct me if im wrong but all the mass hysteria of new worms like the dcom worm were wrote with public exploits wrote by whitehat hackers and why is this because places that put fear in to the masses about the so called blackhat 'bad guys' hell more than half the 'blackhats' i know that dont support full disclosure dont dreak in to systems they have there own and they write exploits to test the new vuln then they swap code i will admit that there are a good few who code to break in to systems but there is less than what you think. Ok why am I against full dislosure and the whole 'whitehat' **** because there simply ruining the internet all the so called 'hackers' you read about are the clueless ones who download the proof of concept that the whitehat community released to the masses then they inject fear in to people by saying there the ethical ones and that the 'blackhats' are bad guys lol yes some do break in to systems why though ? to deface ? to steal ? no for exploration its like playing morrowind and not sticking to the path and ending up in some remote place in the country side its simply exploration and do you ever hear of them getting caught ? hell no why ? because they took the time to learn intstead of ./autoroot 192.168.0 where am I going with all this well its plain and simple the so called whitehats of the internet are ruining the internet for every one with there proof of concept code that they relese for 'testing purposes' gets anally abused by some 14 year old brazillian defacin kr3w and you call black hats criminals its the whitehats that are the true criminals they put fear in to the masses by saying 'blackhat' hackers are the scum of the internet they rape loot and pillage stealing peronal files yada yada etc etc but its simply not true there not looking at you're granny pr0n 10 there simply exploring and that what people will never understand the skiddies that get caught and are labelled hackers by media types are just that script kids using code that the Whitehat community released the next worm that exploits a vuln that comes out i bet a pound to a penny its from a published exploit

So all in all dont support full disclosure