The Future Of Ordering Pizza

The Future of Ordering Pizza

Operator: "Thank you for calling Pizza Hut. May I have your..."

Customer: "Hi, I'd like to order... "

Operator: "May I have your NIDN first, sir?"

Customer: "My National ID Number, yeah, hold on, eh, it's 6102049998-45-54610."

Operator: "Thank you, Mr. Sheehan. I see you live at 1742 Meadowland Drive, and the phone number's 494-2366. Your office number over at Lincoln Insurance is 745-2302 and your cell number's 266-2566. Which number are you calling from, sir?"

Customer: "Huh? I'm at home. Where d'ya get all this information?"

Operator: "We're wired into the system, sir."

Customer: (Sighs) "Oh, well, I'd like to order a couple of your All-Meat Special pizzas..."

Operator: "I don't think that's a good idea, sir."

Customer: "Whaddya mean?"

Operator: "Sir, your medical records indicate that you've got very high blood pressure and extremely high cholesterol. Your National Health Care provider won't allow such an unhealthy choice."

Customer: "Damn. What do you recommend, then?"

Operator: "You might try our low-fat Soybean Yogurt Pizza. I'm sure you'll like it"

Customer: "What makes you think I'd like something like that?"

Operator: "Well, you checked out 'Gourmet Soybean Recipes' from your local library last week, sir. That's why I made the suggestion."

Customer: "All right, all right. Give me two family-sized ones, then. What's the damage?"

Operator: "That should be plenty for you, your wife and your four kids, sir. The 'damage,' as you put it, heh, heh, comes $49.99."

Customer: "Lemme give you my credit card number."

Operator: "I'm sorry sir, but I'm afraid you'll have to pay in cash. Your credit card balance is over its limit."

Customer: "I'll run over to the ATM and get some cash before your driver gets here."

Operator: "That won't work either, sir. Your checking account's overdrawn."

Customer: "Never mind. Just send the pizzas. I'll have the cash ready. How long will it take?"

Operator: "We're running a little behind, sir. It'll be about 45 minutes, sir. If you're in a hurry
you might want to pick 'em up while you're out getting the cash, but carrying pizzas on a motorcycle can be a little awkward."

Customer: "How the hell do you know I'm riding a bike?"

Operator: "It says here you're in arrears on your car payments, so your car got repo'ed. But your Harley's paid up, so I just assumed that you'd be using it."

Customer: "@#%/$@&?#!"

Operator: "I'd advise watching your language, sir. You've already got a July 2006 conviction for cussing out a cop."

Customer: (Speechless)

Operator: "Will there be anything else, sir?"

Customer: "No, nothing. oh, yeah, don't forget the two free liters of Coke your ad says I get with the pizzas."

Operator: "I'm sorry sir, but our ad's exclusionary clause prevents us from offering free soda to diabetics.

THIS probably is closer to the truth than we think!!!


What do you think of this ?

Maybe later in the futre... yes. But in my time? No. In my childrens time? No.

There are too many concerns about all the info you provided in your story.
Medical, financial, library... those databases are all private... unless you are a terrorist suspect.

Privacy advocates would freak... along with the rest of the population.

Plus... ANYONE could take over someone elses identity very easily.
They are trying to combat this... not help it.

Where'd you get your idea's from? Back to the future 2?

nice yaa!
but if this is the info that a pizza boy has,
then what info can we expect from a cop..............
heh....it is hard to survive then,life is better now,let it go like this

No more pizza for me!

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Where'd you get your idea's from? Back to the future 2?

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Actually i found this file in my CIS class somewgere on the network, i though it was funny but also something good to discuss about.

I thought this would be another thread on how delivery resturaunts are starting to take online orders. I placed my first online pizza delivery order the other day, the only downfall is it hasn't caught on so, you may want to confirm over the phone also, or your order may sit in que for a while. I think Domino's and Pizza Hut are doing it. The other 3 places I order from are local resturants and not commercial chains.

If the pizza boy has access to that kinda information so does everyone else which means identity theft would skyrocket. But I"m sure the government would love to have a system for themselves like that.

Yeah, I thought this was about online ordering of pizza, something I've done quite a bit with Papa John's.

I don't ever see NIDNs ever being implimented due to the huge number of risks with that kind of information all being tied into a centralized database where anyone can retrieve it. I mean, if a business has that info, then you can just go pay the $35.00 bucks for a business license and you have that info too? Tools would be made to crawl the database, get info, save it into a private database, and then identity theft would skyrocket beyond belief. Won't happen. Not to mention, there would always be a class where *they* aren't registered in the NIDN.

Separation of classes, no way to secure that kind of data, making it too public for any business, privacy is gone, it's an all-or-none method...the list goes on.

The day NIDNS get put in place is the day that I, and countless others, leave the US. I won't have my privacy up in lights for everyone to see. Ever.

It's freaking bullcrap, IMO, that our nation might come down to this, but I'm positive it will. Already in Texas you have to give your thumbprint to get a license, even if you have 1000 forms of ID proving you're that person, and after you give the print it stores your info in a database automatically. I hate this crap. This is why I wanna start a new nation. :)

Haha... **** invasion of privacy laws eh. If Pizza Hut knows that I'll stage a cew(spelling major lol)..

-Cheers-

I can't remember the last time I called in a Pizza, there is a cookie on my PC that holds my favorites, a few mouse clicks on-line and I have hot piping "ZA on the way. I sold my internet soul to convenience. :)

Yeh, I order my Papa John's on the Internet too, but they don't have kind of crazy ID number or some bullcrap like that for me.

And it's "coup." It's French. :)

Interesting scenario. How ever, I don't think it would be likely that now or in the future a pizza company would ever get that type of info on a customer. it's just more info then they need to know.

On the other hand, I'm sure the Department of Defense has databases today, with that info ready to be used at a moments notice.


--PuRe

I worked for a pizza place up untill recently. Dominoes and Pizza Hut have not managed to make it work here, as of this moment. Dominoes get abou 2/6 orders a week as far as i no. Thats for the hole of the uk. There is a few million or us.

At the end of the day if databases get that advanced people will simply revert to the black market because they do not like the idea of there loss of freedom and privacey. Not withstanding that, lazy people who can not be bothered to cook for thereselfs get embarased if you no who they are and always go el's ware.

This is something everyone needs to read, and I would LOVE to have confirmation on-

I have a cousin who works as a telemarketer, and theres two things I learned about telemarketing and the do not call list

1. The do not call list only worked if the telemarketer had no previous relationship with the person they called (so no completely cold calls). So if one big company had a buisness relationship (you bought something, joined a mailing list, any association), and had your phone #, every buisness it owns technically has a buisness relationship with you as well, and has every right to call you, regardless of the list.

Here is where it gets intresting-
2. To PROVE the relationship over the phone, my cousin the telemarketer, gets records of the previous relationship. The telemarketing company he worked for was owned by a company that runs hotel pay per view movies. So when he calls someone, the names of movies they saw show up on his computer screen. If someone he calls says, I'm on the DNC list, then he responds with, "Your intrest in our Hotel pay per view movie has encouraged us to inform you of these opportunities brought to you by us"

Moral of the story is, the telemarketers know what porn you watch at Holiday Inn.


I know it sounds crazy, and I hardly believe it myself, but can any telemarketers here confirm it?? The Pizza guy very well might know what diseases you have in the future, because telemarkers might know what porn you like. :)

In America we do have a NIDN, it's called a social security number. We're owned from the minute we are born don't know about other countrys. And about the online ordering, my mom orders her groceries online and they deliver them to her front door.

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Originally posted here by Soda_Popinsky
This is something everyone needs to read, and I would LOVE to have confirmation on-

I have a cousin who works as a telemarketer, and theres two things I learned about telemarketing and the do not call list

1. The do not call list only worked if the telemarketer had no previous relationship with the person they called (so no completely cold calls). So if one big company had a buisness relationship (you bought something, joined a mailing list, any association), and had your phone #, every buisness it owns technically has a buisness relationship with you as well, and has every right to call you, regardless of the list.

Here is where it gets intresting-
2. To PROVE the relationship over the phone, my cousin the telemarketer, gets records of the previous relationship. The telemarketing company he worked for was owned by a company that runs hotel pay per view movies. So when he calls someone, the names of movies they saw show up on his computer screen. If someone he calls says, I'm on the DNC list, then he responds with, "Your intrest in our Hotel pay per view movie has encouraged us to inform you of these opportunities brought to you by us"

Moral of the story is, the telemarketers know what porn you watch at Holiday Inn.


I know it sounds crazy, and I hardly believe it myself, but can any telemarketers here confirm it?? The Pizza guy very well might know what diseases you have in the future, because telemarkers might know what porn you like. :)

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#1 is completely true.

#2 is completely true also.

I have a relative who does it (young chap) and makes a good bit of money at it. But, I asked her, and those things are indeed true.

muert0: It's possible to live a life, though, almost completely as normally as everyone else, without ever giving out your SSN to anyone private. In this month's 2600 there is an article about it, as a matter of fact.

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This is why I wanna start a new nation

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Hell, Coun me IN.

Hrmm went to the 2600 website to find the article didnt realize the only way to read it was to buy it.
Was the article in the winter 2003-2004?
And there might be a way to not give it to anyone private but i was just saying we already have a number that marks us if it came down to what Memory was saying in the first place.

muert0: Yes, it's in the Winter 2003-2004 issue. The one that should be on the stands right now. Just go to a bookstore and hang out and read a few articles, specifically that one. It's quite interesting, IMO.

Can you pm me the SSN article. I read a number of stuff on this topic. However I do not have the resources (no car or CC) to access a 2600 lol.. Sounds wierd, but if you could, that'd be nice.

Thanks.

-Cheers-

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Originally posted here by muert0
my mom orders her groceries online and they deliver them to her front door.

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-- This is laziness as we know it. Just imagine a world where you don't even need to leave the house. I get on Adult Finder to find a romp, jump on adam and eve for a package of condoms, order a meal from who knows where and stop and shop will deliver the extras. We have a delivery package store in my town for the beer and wine. Maybe order an outfit a couple days ahead because this won't be delivered same day and if I am missing anything (prove to me I can't order it online somehow....

Is 2600 worth reading from a whitehat perspective? I dont really care about malicious hacking or skiddie tools, I wouldn't trust myself even if I did. Does it offer Whitehat commentary?

omg, that is sooo funny! lol.... Hey in the future who knows whats possible :S
Kinda scary, but eventually who knows what will happen :D

In India we do not have any concpet of social security number.. I guess nor can we afford to with the type of population we have.....

In my opinion the Future Pizza gave us a glimpse of various initiatives taken by few companies like Microsft (using its passport) , Novel using in NDS etc etc. I remember of a law which was in a process to be formed for the purpose of sharing information between businesses after a detailed scrutiny of its infrastructure.

May be the pizza thing was a bit of exxagerration to prove the point but I guess yes....

Think while you go to book a airline ticket it assists initially with your preferences from the data in its database... Now if you are travelling to some other country where your airline does not have a service... it can coonect you to its partner site without any additional need for registration... again if you are travelling to locations it can give you details about hotels and other information again based on your preferences.. I guess this scenario would definetely make our lives more comfortable.. finally we would not require to register at five diffrent places to plan one trip.. That means ONE TRIP ONE REGISTRATION FOR ALL MY NEEDS... But that needs a lot of trust amongst the trading partners..... and the technology has to really innovated to inject a kind of trsut in such an arrangement......

As regards Telemarketers..... Yeah I have seen lot of times the data that we share innocently is either sold over the web for few dollars... and makes our lives miserable.. I have this a lot in case of Financial services.... especially with Credit Cards apply for one... and the rest all companies start calling you again and again..

Heh, I got positive anti-points for my mom being lazy.
I live in baton rouge. About an hour south of here is New Orleans. Its a great city for lazy people. Especially if you live around the quarter there is a store where you can order groceries, premade food, booze, clothes, almost anything you want and a guy delivers it to your house on a bicycle in 30 minutes.

silver: Nah, it's only a hard-copy mag.

Soda: Yeh, IMO, it's completely worth checking out. Kinda immaturish at times, but some articles are really good.

I've never found a person on the other end of the phone for pizza delivery that had enough nouse to ask if my house was difficult to find (it is!) let alone do any of the other stuff mentioned!

Steve

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Originally posted here by Soda_Popinsky
Is 2600 worth reading from a whitehat perspective? I dont really care about malicious hacking or skiddie tools, I wouldn't trust myself even if I did. Does it offer Whitehat commentary?

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Yes! I think its a great magazine. They have articles on just about any type of hacking. Not necessarily "cracking". Some of the articles there might not make it to our tutorial forum(s)... but its def. worth it. I've been reading it for the past couple of years. Some very bright minds publish their articles there. Some of the articles I read and I'm like "wow".... then again, some of the articles I read and I'm like "duh.... that was lame". Just depends. Its all about the freedom of information. Not about cracking into corporate servers/websites. (but there is a lot of stuff about places you'd know... how to scam blockbuster, bestbuy, etc. but, educational stuff only. they don't promote it).

You've thought of all the positive things about that but not about the negatives. With this type of system going, anyone who had your National Identity Number (or however you put it) and works at a pizza store could find out all your information and if they really hate you who knows what they can do. On the good side you won't ever have to go to the hospital because you accidently drank a free soda and your a diabetic :P

Hello,
I was wondering if you'd let me use this in my Information Technology course? Not only is it humorous, but it also proves a valuable point. Where do we draw the line between privacy and what everyone (even your neighborhood friendly pizza guy ;)) should be able to access.. Bravo!

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I was wondering if you'd let me use this in my Information Technology course?

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Of course you may use it :)