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Ok the thing is i got them both on my network...they must be same workgroup to share files and when i put one onto lets say home workgroup...i cant put my other one, i got an error occured on the set-up network wizard...why cant i put them both onto one?
WTF? You can't get 2 machines into the same workgroup?
Have you tried doing it manually? I mean, without the wizard...
Check to see if ICF has been turned on xp likes to turn that on for you, even though you might not want it.
ok here is whats happening...i think i got them both onto workgroup: KUCA, and on my desktop i can asses the laptop and my own files but i cant see desktop on the view workgropu computers on the laptop...
what Operating systems?
Have you checked permissions on the folders?
its windows xp both of them...it shows they are both on same workgroup but they are not lol
i just dont see what im doing wrong here...
Delete the connection and reboot. Then try again.
this is freaky lol...if i go to properties on 1394 connection and enable sharing i loose my connection to my router and the internet...can somone give me a mimi tutorial or something on how to set up my network correctly and map my drive?
...my network is like this: DSL modem -> Router -> split into Laptop and a desktop
for one time my desktop had access to laptop files but i want the opposite..that my laptop has access to desktop computer files
How do you have them setup? (each to the router, or to each other and the router?)
If you're using the router as a proxy to connect to the internet, are your IE settings set with the proper ip address for the router?
Does the router have both computers address's and subnets correct?
I'm just throwing out some ideas here.
lol i dont know :( ...anyways now i got them both on workgroup KUCA and laptop can see my desktop computer but it sais doesnt have permission to access..please contact admin?
I say skip the wizard for right now, if you right click on My Computer and you get the properties then click on the Computer name tab what does it say as far as the Workgroup there? Also please make sure that the computer names are not the same other wise you will have name conflicts and nothing will work properly.
Once this is done, I am assuming you are using a router to connect the computers and using dhcp if not do this go to start run type in cmd hit enter
then type in ipconfig make sure that the subnet masks are the same on every computer and that the ip ranges are close as in 192.168.1.XXX or whatever range it uses.
Now I have never been a big fan of network neighborhood. so for example lets choose a folder on your desktop called share right click that folder and choose Sharing and Security.
in the middle there should be a tab that says Share this folder on the network. check that and the box below it that states Allow Network users to change my files. If you want to set security which we all recommend there should be a security spot unless your on windows xp home edition then you have to boot into safe mode to do it.
now to access this folder from another computer you would go to start run and type this
\\IP.Address.here\share <-- This will take you directly to that folder
\\IP.Address.here\ <-- will take you to the computer and show you all nonhidden shares
I know this all seems basic but i tend to forget the basics when I get excited :)
Edit: PS: When you setup sharing you wil know if both computers are setup for sharing or not. if not there should be a spot there that says enable file sharing on this computer click that and then follow the instructions
Start from the begining. Delete all connections and remove from the router. Re-boot both the desktop and laptop.
Re connect laptop to router re establish a connection to the router and make sure all is working correctly check the settings in the router using your browser.
When this is all ok reconnect the desk top get that sorted when both are working ok, pen my computer click tools>> map network drive and follow the instructions you will nead to do this for both.
god u know what...screw it for now lol, i got hw to do i might do it tomorow or whenever...i know its all fine, but the thing is my desktop has good connection to my laptop, i can access it and everything but my laptop cant access my desktop i dunno why...same gateway and subnet mask and ip is very close (.103 and .106) but i just cant access it.....
What are the current (not working) settings on both computers (go to Local network connections, right click>properties>Internet Protocol TCP/IP>Properties)
just out of curiosity, have you tried setting it up as modem>router>LAN (network of desktop and laptop) so that both computers are on same network/subnet?
<edit>sorry...I gotta start posting my replies quicker so somebody else hasn't already posted the same thing by the time I hit submit.
One last thing to check....how about the permissions on the shared folders, does the laptop have permission to access the shared folders?</edit>
how do i check those permissions?
btw...do all my connections have to be bridged or not?
I've had problems like this before... what i found is that the network places didn't refesh automatically. In fact, i'll open it right now and see what's showing... lol... it say's my laptop's sharing a music and a c++ folder (which i think i accessed about 2 weeks ago). It's giving me the "no access" message you are talking about. Of course you can't get access stupid machine... the laptop is sitting in it's carrying bag!
Anywho... here's what i always do, i just open up my network places and in the address line i enter \\laptop and that gets me to the viewable shared files on my laptop (which is named "laptop").
That's probably the problem, your network places has not refreshed... and i don't know enough about it to say when it might refresh (right clicking and selecting "refresh" from the menu doesn't help). If you just stick to using \\-computer- in the address field you'll get to the files on your computer.
BTW: you said your computers' were currently in seperate workgroups... i'm guessing that at one time they were both part of the same workgroup.
Also... don't use the network wizard, just set the workgroup and computer names manually like spyrus said earlier.
Hope this helps you.
I had a problem like this, you can't see the computer's shares, but if you know them, you can access them.
If this doesn't work in explorer
Then try thisQuote:
\\<computer name>\
If that doesn't work, go to does and type inQuote:
\\<computer name>\share\
If you get a system error, then your permissions are set too low or you don't have your ip/subnet set correctly. Tell me your hardware and operating systems if none of this works.Quote:
net view <computer name>
<afterthought>
Make sure that you are logged in as a user with admin rights otherwise you might not be able to access the other computer or run certain commands!
if one is fat32 and the other is ntfs the fat32 will not be able to see the ntfs files
true true tedob.
Also, SK I would not use bridging. Just leave your 1394 and LAN connection separate. S
1394 is for firewire devices.
to check permissions on a folder, log in as administrator, right click on folder you want to view permisions for, click properties, select the security tab. (note -this only works if drive is formatted NTFS, and only on XP Perfessional not XP Home)
A couple other things to check, are the folders marked as read only? Are the folders hidden folders? If you place both computers into same workgroup does anything change? Can you use the ping command to reach each computer from the other?
ensure that the admin p/w is the same on both machines... check that the security for the file folder permissions allow access for the current logged on user and ensure that you are "sharing" the folder(s) in question. If the logged on users for the machines are different make sure you add the username & p/w on the other machine and assign it the folder where you need access to. If you want access to the laptop folder or hard drive ensure that you are sharing it and vise/versa for the desktop.
Here are some links if you'd like to read up on some of the things mentioned in this thread.
Microsoft knowledge base articles:
How to disable simplified sharing and set permissions on a shared folder in Windows XP
HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions in Windows XP
Description of File Sharing and Permissions in Windows XP
Network Problems with a Router in Windows XP
You Cannot Access Shared Files and Folders or Browse Computers in the Workgroup
Other Links
http://www.duxcw.com/faq/network/xpnet.htm
http://asia.cnet.com/itmanager/netad...9049730,00.htm
Hope one of these helps you out.
i know this may be a bit obvious, but couldn't hurt to make sure that "file and print sharing" is installed and enabled on both machines.
also, i have seen weird issues like this happen due to issues with the network hub/switch, and sometimes even the cabling if the cables happen to be wired differently from each other. if you have a cable tester laying around, i would verify that they are both working without error, and using the same wiring scheme.
good luck man.
I am suprised at this comment:
Fat32/ntfs has no place in this problem.. I have win98 with Fat32, WinXP with FAt32 and NTFS partitions and file shareing is AOK over my networksQuote:
if one is fat32 and the other is ntfs the fat32 will not be able to see the ntfs files
Faqt's links are the best places to start..oh and VanEck's comment about file and printer sharing.. some time the simple is easiest overlooked..
And please Cut out the bloody LOL's in your questions.. When someone is laughing when they are asking a question of me, I feel they are having a "Go" at me and I tell them to Piss Off, Question unanswered.. save the LOL's for joke telling!
Cheers
I'm suprised that nobody has mentioned the software firewall in XP. The XP firewall, Zonealarm or Black Ice and other software firewalls will prevent connections from other machines on the network.
LoL, so two XP shares walk in to a bar. One can see the other but not vice versa. The share that can't see the other says
"Hey other share, I can't see you. Are your permissions set too high?"
the other one replies with
"No that's not it"
so the share asks again,
"Hey other share, are you firewalled?"
to which the 2nd share replies
"Nah man that still isn't it.
then,
"Is your cable plugged in?"
"Yep"
"You on?"
"Yep"
Finally, the fed up share finally says
"Well then what is it!?"
To which the other replies
"Dude, I'm a fridge."
/me waits for the neg pelting