Gentoo joke (at the expensive of it)

Came across a review at OSnews for slackware, and began to laugh uncontrollably at these two comments:


In a review about slackware that never once mentions Gentoo:

Poster #1: "gentoo blows slack out of the water. I mean, come on emerge kde. wtf is this swaret ****?"

Poster #2: "Oh, please. Why is it that everytime someone posts an article about!Gentoo distro, some Gentoo user has to come and shout something alongthe lines of "...but Gentoo does it better". You know what? **** you. **** you for making me cry because of how communist the gentoo "perfect ****ing race" is."

Hilarious, absolutely hilarious. -hugs his slackware-

I don't find it particularly funny, in fact I don't see where the joke is... :confused:

(I use both Slackware and Gentoo btw, and have no problems with either)

The joke is that no matter what subject is being discussed OS wise, a gentoo user will ALWAYS hop in and say "but gentoo is better because!!!!"

It's almost a guarentee. The joke was that the slackware user (who knows slack can do the exact same thing gentoo can do) referred to the zealot gentoo users as communists with the nazi memory of "perfect race".

Same here. Use them both too. No problems here.

Anyway I've stepped out that distro war ****. Everyone knows my opinion. That's enough :D

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Same here. Use them both too. No problems here.

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Exactally. When gentoo users learn that they can both do the exact same things, then we won't have the gentoo zealots :) Which is what the joke was referring too, not the mature users.

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not the mature users

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Does this mean I grew up ? Damnit. :p

Pooh, get your ass back on irc, and bring Sun Tzu along too :D

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does this mean I grew up ? Damnit.

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Yes, I feel you are a very mature and dedicated gentoo user who has no false dreams about it being 31337er than any other distrobution because you understand each OS can do the same thing so long as the admin knows how. I have a great deal of respect for you because of that.

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Pooh, get your ass back on irc, and bring Sun Tzu along too

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Maybe not, because somehow I always end up having to defend Windows XP or Slackware followed by my debate of "each OS is the same, if you know how to use it and be a good admin, so don't blame your faults on an OS you can't control nor learn".

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Yes, I feel you are a very mature and dedicated gentoo user who has no false dreams about it being 31337er than any other distrobution because you understand each OS can do the same thing so long as the admin knows how. I have a great deal of respect for you because of that.

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:o , /me faints

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Maybe not, because somehow I always end up having to defend Windows XP or Slackware followed by my debate of "each OS is the same, if you know how to use it and be a good admin, so don't blame your faults on an OS you can't control nor learn"

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Just talk about beer and women and you'll fit in quite great. :D

I find it's the Debian users who are the worst/best (depending on how you look at it) for advocacy. The Gentoo users on their forums seem to be fairly friendly, except when I dared to say that IE was in some ways better than Firebird (at the time). ;)

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The Gentoo users on their forums

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No no no. We are not talking about their own forum :) Even in the joke it was a slackware review without a word of mention towards gentoo, and sure enough a gentoo user came from the wood work. That is what the entire joke was about. No matter where on the face of this earth an OS will be talked about online, a gentoo users will pipe up and say "but but but but but gentoo is better!"

I don't think they get it...

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I don't think they get it...

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Heck i didn't even get it.
Plus there's nothing wrong with being a Debian lover like myself :)


.:f2b:.

ugh it isn't that hard to understand >_<;

/// on a distant automobile forum far far away

User - My new car rocks
*Gentoo Users magically appears in a flash of light and puff of smoke
GentooUser - Gentoo is better!!!!
*User confused
User - Ummm isn't that an OS?
GentooUser - Yeah, and its better!!!
User - But we're not talking about OS's
GentooUser - Doesn't matter still better
User - But how can you even compare the 2 - they are 2 completly different things!
GentooUser - Completly different cause Gentoo r0wks!!
User - Ummm ah huh ok then
*User walks away slowly

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Ok so is an extreme example - but what pooh was trying to get across is no matter on what forum - or where an OS is discussed - even without any mention of the word Gentoo...a gentoo user will appear and start telling everyone - that no matter what task they are discussing that an operating system can perform Gentto does it better.

v_Ln

Gentoo is like totally sooooo for sure better! I mean, who would have thought of a command for updating everything like them? Well, besides Free BSD almost 20 years ago, but hey! Gentoo does it better!!!!!! Even if it is almost exactly the same damned thing!!!

I mean damn, who wouldn't want to have a computer down for over a day while doing the install????? That is so leet, like totally!

Pfft, like I was going to let this thread go without a responce.

Typing "yast2" in SuSE tends to update everything, in Free BSD you have "update world" and the portage collection, which is a cool idea, but then some bastard tossed it in a Linux distro, and now we have 2,000,000,000 dumb ****s thinking it was the first time it was ever done.

And as soon as you dare say it was NOT the first time, you get more flames than a fire. and when you PROVE it... Well then you get the intelligent come back "Oh, well Gentoo improved on it". Gentoo used to be a breed of penguine. Then it was a cool shell like explorer...Now it's a Free BSD Linux with originality problems.

This is why I love both of you. -hands you both cookies-

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Gentoo is like totally sooooo for sure better! I mean, who would have thought of a command for updating everything like them? Well, besides Free BSD almost 20 years ago, but hey! Gentoo does it better!!!!!! Even if it is almost exactly the same damned thing!!!

I mean damn, who wouldn't want to have a computer down for over a day while doing the install????? That is so leet, like totally!

Pfft, like I was going to let this thread go without a responce.

Typing "yast2" in SuSE tends to update everything, in Free BSD you have "update world" and the portage collection, which is a cool idea, but then some bastard tossed it in a Linux distro, and now we have 2,000,000,000 dumb ****s thinking it was the first time it was ever done.

And as soon as you dare say it was NOT the first time, you get more flames than a fire. and when you PROVE it... Well then you get the intelligent come back "Oh, well Gentoo improved on it". Gentoo used to be a breed of penguine. Then it was a cool shell like explorer...Now it's a Free BSD Linux with originality problems.

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And this is all based on a two-day gentoo experience ... good judgement. And btw gore, you belong in windows, since you obviously don't understand the meaning of open source and the GPL.

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And this is all based on a two-day experience ... good judgement

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Shrek, gore still has a solid point. And let me explain why. (G = Gentoo E= Everything else)

1G. Gentoo has FLAGs and USE files to make optimization easier, such as -fomit-frame-pointer and -O3 (or -Os)

1E. EVERY SINGLE OTHER OS HAS THE EXACT SAME ABILITY. It just isn't called FLAGS. It's called "modify your compiler options"


2G. Gentoo has the ability to compile everything from source, still use the optimizations, and automagically call the USE flags to set the configure flags and depedencies.

2E. EVERY SINGLE OTHER OS HAS THE EXACT SAME ABILITY. It just isn't called FLAGS. It's called "modify your compiler options" as well as let swaret or slapt-get handle the depedencies on an --install.


3G. Gentoo gets the most speed and optimiations out of your computer by doing the above two things and compilng everything from source code.

3E. EVERY SINGLE OTHER OS HAS THE EXACT SAME ABILITY. It just isn't called FLAGS. It's called "modify your compiler options" as well as let swaret or slapt-get handle the depedencies on an --install as well as not having to
compile it because there are prebuilt packages already compiled by someone with the -fomit-frame-pointer on an i686 at Pentium IV(III) settings in tgz/rpm formats. Both with check depedencies.

And finally...

4G. Gentoo can update the entire system with emerge -uD world && emerge -uD system. Gentoo can install a program as simple as emerge programname.

4E. Slack has swaret --update && swaret --upgrade. Slack has slapt-get --update && slapt-get --upgrade. Redhat and Fedora have yum, up2date, and apt-get. Debian has apt-get. Windows has automatic update. All of these do systemwide updates easily. All of these do dep checks, easily. All of these can install programs (usually with the --install switch) from deposit mirrors. And finally, I don't care that Gnetoo has 72,000+ apps in portage sitting in source code. Google has, I'm sure, a few hundred thousand RPM files, and god knows how many slack compiled tgz packages.


My point being, and the point of the joke? No matter where anyone is, a Gentoo user will say that their OS is bigger, better, and faster. When it is doing the exact same thing every other OS can do, but in a different way. Note, not better, faster, or more 31337 way. A different way.


Let's not turn this into a flameOS war, because all of us here should be mature enough to know that an OS is only as powerful as the admin, and only as versitile as the admin's knowledge.

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And btw gore, you belong in windows, since you obviously don't understand the meaning of open source and the GPL.

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I should hit you for that Shrek. Both you and I know gore has a firm understanding of the GPL and open source. Just because he is willing to learn and master an OS that far too many people bash on, gives you no right to dishonor his knowledge. Why not instead try learning from him, so that you can see, as those of us who took the time to master windows did, that Windows can do and preform anything/as well as Gentoo can.

And that goes for every OS. OS != speed/security/superiority Adminknowledge == speed/security/superiority

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I should hit you for that Shrek. Both you and I know gore has a firm understanding of the GPL and open source. Just because he is willing to learn and master an OS that far too many people bash on, gives you no right to dishonor his knowledge. Why not instead try learning from him, so that you can see, as those of us who took the time to master windows did, that Windows can do and preform anything/as well as Gentoo can.

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Pooh, your point is very right and i do know gore knows his stuff. I'm just sick of it him bashing on gentoo, because it's me, because I stepped over from suse to gentoo.
And this behavior of gore is a very big contradiction to what he always announces here on AO, thus being a n OS knowledgeable person. He just hates gentoo because of me, and not because gentoo "should" be bad.
And i know there some pretty nice other distros too. I do have slack @ home too, I used FreeBSD for a fair bit. heck we even use HPUX @ work (still :| ) Just to mention a few I tried ...

Anyway, I respect you pooh, so i'll let the gore-gentoo rages be from now on ...

Don't get me wrong Shrekkie, I respect your opinions too :) But I know other people will be reading this wondering why two sides are giving each other such a hard time.

On one side, people think there are things that Gentoo can do that no other OS is capable of.

On the other side, people think Gentoo is as bad as Windows 1.2.


Both are wrong, and I would rather not see this joke turn into a flame war for OSes :) Let him rant, and he will let you continue to enjoy Gentoo. Either way, both opinions and thoughts were appreciated, even if it put the subject in a new light.

I Blame Canada

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Originally posted here by gore
I mean damn, who wouldn't want to have a computer down for over a day while doing the install????? That is so leet, like totally!

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That's a little bit of an exagguration - you can get Gentoo installed in a few hours if you want. Obviously if you compile everything from source and start from the basically partitioning/bootstrapping it is going to take longer though. If you want Linux installed in under an hour you probably wouldn't choose Gentoo, just as I wouldn't choose SUSE if I wanted to compile everything from source.

As for those supposed advocacy bordering on insanity, I have not really encountered that on any of the sites I visit. In fact, I've found Debian users are the worse when it comes to distro wars or installations (apparently you are an idiot and a troll if you dare to criticise apt-get and the install process).

Ahhhh Shrekkie. You are only ONE of many people using Gentoo. I know you think you're the reason I hate it, but you're not. I THOUGHT I could joke with you about it in the same way you ditched SuSE and told me about it. But I guess I can't and no longer will joke with you at all.

The actual reasons I don't like it?

The same reason this thread was started, most of the user base thinks Gentoo tastes better than Pepsi, swallows better than Monica, gets better coverage than AT&T, sounds better than Bose, and can go faster than a Maclaren F1.

It's a ****ing OS, no matter which one you use, if I piss on your keyboard it becomes worthless for a few hours at least. People think Debian users are bad...Well they are, I saw Pwaring's post asking for help.

They went from willing to help to "You're just to ****ing stupid to use it! How dare you say Debian is not the best you troll!"

I'm not kiddnig, they called him a troll. Gentoo users are turning into the same thing. How can you have freedom with Open Source when you aren't free to choose what you want without some ******* telling you you're **** because you don't use Gentoo?

Gentoo the Penguine breed I have no problem with, Gentoo the file manager, I like it, and I use it, Gentoo the Linux distro based on BSD, I LIKE IT...But, Gentoo the user base, I'd rather choke my balls with snapping turtles.

How many Gentoo users have pissed me off in the last month? Hmm, about 50.

The originality thing is also quite true. Every Linux distro came up with a name all it's own...Well except Mandrake, which is a Mandragore plant. (Ohhh look at that I actually know what a Mandragore plant is) ;)

Gentoo took it's name from a Breed of Penguine, and a shell. that is a very stupid reason not to like something over, so I don't include that in my rant, as it is only the name. But it is kind of funny.

In case anyone is interested, this post on LinuxQuestions.org is where you see the true fanaticism of some Debian users.

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Well except Mandrake, which is a Mandragore plant.

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Well, that's the original source (original origin, if you will) of the word. But Mandrake was based on Mandrake the Magician, a comic character. That's the reason that they had a wizard thing as their logo until they got sued (DC comics, I think). Now, shrekkie can sympathize with them for sure :D.

Cheers,
cgkanchi

LOL cgkanchi

/me opens hunt for dreamworks people again :p

want a joke?

I use Lindows.com's Linspire OS..

/me hides in the corner.

Hey, you use what works. And I fully support at least trying an OS long enough to learn it. So, you using Lindows is hardly something I would look down upon. In fact, I thank you for being able to take a step foward in your learning process to discover and possibly even master in the OS world.

:)

More experience rarley hurtrs.

Actually, I am trying to learn Plan 9 (over 1000's pages in the manual).

I used to be a Red Hat user and never made it over to Fedora, I'll have to give it a try soon. My two most used OS's are TurboLinux and Linspire (so much easier for my guest to use).

I would have to say, my first flavor of linux was IcePack and I had a lot of fun playing with it. Last I heard they were building an IcePack server edition and then the site went down. Hope they come back soon, I'm starting to learn a lot about linux and soon I will be ready to contribute back to the community.

My only problem is finding the right tool for the job, there is way too many to choose from (don't get me wrong choice is good) and I have to test many different flavors to find the one which is right for me.