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Hi every body
I use a proxy then i hid my web surfing. but am i anonymous in use of hacking tools such as vulnerablity scanners , ftp crackers, telnet crackers, and so on???
How can i hid my clue and ip when i hack ? help me please. :( :confused:
kidi_hacker
Firewall!
Give that one a big fat goolgle-
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search
relyt has a thread going on firewalls, should still be on the main page as well.
I almost really hate to burst your bubble......BUT, YOU CAN STILL BE TRACED EVEN IF YOU USE A PROXY.Quote:
Originally posted here by kidi_hacker
Hi every body
I use a proxy then i hid my web surfing. but am i anonymous in use of hacking tools such as vulnerablity scanners , ftp crackers, telnet crackers, and so on???
How can i hid my clue and ip when i hack ? help me please. :( :confused:
kidi_hacker
Consequently, any scanning, cracking, and other neferious activities you might engage in can be traced right back to you also.
Heh heh heh....bet you never even thought that a lot of proxy servers are like honey pots and they just exist to provide the various authorities with the IP's of those who are trying to hide their activities.
Think about it.
Soda_Popinsky, firewalls? Do you really think he cares about that? Besides can't you see this "kidi" is jokeing or something... or is like 10 and he wants to be labeled something because he owns a computer and is bored with his pathetic life.
Most proxies are only good for exactly what they say they are normally for... in this case you mentioned web surfing. So unless you've made your own server than can scan then send you the results and/or auto-root for you then forward remote shell from one computer to another bleh...
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I almost really hate to burst your bubble......BUT, YOU CAN STILL BE TRACED EVEN IF YOU USE A PROXY.
Very true..............if you think about it, anonimity involves keeping quiet and staying hidden, it is reactive.Quote:
Consequently, any scanning, cracking, and other neferious activities you might engage in can be traced right back to you also.
Scanning, cracking and other such activities are proactive...............you immediately advertise your presence by the "noise" you are making. You almost certainly violate the terms of your ISPs and you most certainly can be traced by them.
That is the way it works
:eek:
Wow... I totally misread his post. I thought he wanted to be anonymous from vulnerability scanners and so forth. Hence my firewall comment.
I coulda sworn that it said nothing about hacking before....
I think I took that as, "am I anonymous to vulnerability scanners?"Quote:
but am i anonymous in use of hacking tools such as vulnerablity scanners
Over the past week or so I've seen alot of these guys on for some reason. Peaple get greened for the most stupid stuff ever. I'm proof of that... but I dunno it just seems like he should be banned by now as he clearly has nothing to offer except entertaining little threads such as this which ultimately degrades & kills off most boards.
www.textfiles.com
Check out the hacking section of the files.
Don't bring that crap here.
to theSpecialist
Is everything about giving??
People will tell you that givers are better than recievers, but thats out there.
He does have something to offer...he will be one of US....
That might sound really stupid to you becuase you probably dont classify me as one of you because of my short AO-lifespan.But let me tell you this, if it was not for AO, I would be in IRC stalking some inoccent prey with SUB7.
But ever since I started getting my knowledge here, I changed, I became a true HACKER.
No I dont know how to break codes or secure networks or anything like that, but I am a HACKER because of my fundamentals.
We all are hackers, in fact, AO is the WHITE-HAT playground to me.
I bet he came here to learn to CRACK, but as our great knowledge-bearers here at AO passes their knowledge to him, he would stop trying to break websites and start fixing them(I know that AO taught me this)
So, theSpecialist, help him became a part of a society full white-hats, because the more we have, the stronger we are......
One day he might even teach you a thing or two.
As you hang out on AO, you'll keep learning things.
Today's lesson is: There is no use arguing with TheSpecialist. He has been here for a fair amount of time (more than you realize) and has always been an ass. ;)
Would you actually still be using Sub7? I gotta give you props for openly admitting that.
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Originally posted here by HANDzCLEANx
But ever since I started getting my knowledge here, I changed, I became a true HACKER.
No I dont know how to break codes or secure networks or anything like that, but I am a HACKER because of my fundamentals.
We all are hackers, in fact, AO is the WHITE-HAT playground to me.
Being called a "hacker" is just insulting. Its so childish and to say that I've had assosiation with "those types" all this time... once agian it is just plain insulting. There is a difference between normal peaple who enjoy computers... as opposed to the so called, self proclaimed "hackers" out there that have merely been influenced into it all by other peaple includeing the media. I remember when I was a kid, playing with BASIC on a win3.1 or a 95. I use my computers because I feel like it. Because its my hobby and I enjoy it.
Then there are those who would do this just to look smart or cool... most of the time its just for the label itself, a dumb word known as hacker. This is all just to help peaple say that they've been appart of something or belonged to something. None of this has anything to do with computers though. Even you yourself have admitted that you joined here not only due to the social aspects but also in the hopes that this would somehow shape or label you into a more haha (truthfull) sense of some dumb word.
HANDzCLEANx
That part was the only 'true' thing you said.Quote:
I bet he came here to learn to CRACK, but as our great knowledge-bearers here at AO passes their knowledge to him, he would stop trying to break websites and start fixing them(I know that AO taught me this)
OH!Quote:
But ever since I started getting my knowledge here, I changed, I became a true HACKER.
No I dont know how to break codes or secure networks or anything like that, but I am a HACKER because of my fundamentals.
We all are hackers, in fact, AO is the WHITE-HAT playground to me.
So you actually have created your own OS? Youve acutally helped create the internet? Youve actually made a toaster fly and capture porn channels on some russian satelite? Your computer can make coffee? You can take a lil remote controlled car toy, and make it surf the web virtually? You are NOT a hacker. You are not anything close to being a hacker. Any real hacker would not even waste his time responding to your comments, let alone, be bothered by it. And yet you call yourself a
/me bows before you, my l33t m4st3r :eek:Quote:
but I am a HACKER
No offense intented, but.... your comments is a joke.
Cheers.
Funny thing is, I've seen that same nickname asking the exact same question on other forums,and he has gotten the same answer.... I don't think anyone has to worry if he keeps going to security forums to ask about hacking.Quote:
Over the past week or so I've seen alot of these guys on for some reason. Peaple get greened for the most stupid stuff ever. I'm proof of that... but I dunno it just seems like he should be banned by now as he clearly has nothing to offer except entertaining little threads such as this which ultimately degrades & kills off most boards.
No actually you said you were a hacker because you have "HACKER-FUNDEMENTALS". And I don't care if you break things or not... I just don't like your type. And when I say that I mean peaple who need to become or fit into something... and use the fact that they own a computer as an excuse for it all. But serously, if you go out of your way to be called something then clearly your interest don't lay within computers at all... more like some kinda social events behind them. As for "not knowing you"... its the internet who gives a rat's ass.Quote:
DUDE, all i said was that I have HACKER-FUNDEMENTALS(like not breaking ****), I never implied that I was forced into anything!!! How can you judge me if YOU DONT EVEN KNOW ME??!?!?
TheSpecialist:
You keep on saying that I want to fit in somewhere......where do you get that from????
To tell you the truth, I dont have anybody to show any of my "skills".
I have been doing HOMESCHOOLING for 'bout 6 years, and we are constantly moving from one place to another.
So, dude, dont tell me that I've been sitting 24h for 13yrs in front of my PC just to "FIT IN"!!??(why on earth would i do that??)
I never told myself that I must learn something.
No, I am doing what-the-*****-ever pleases and interests me.
My short-lived analasys of you, makes me think that its people like you thats breaking up this community.You keep on complaining about threads like these(in wich newB's ask questions), why dont you show me a thread, even just one, that you can say you posted a SUPERIOR THREAD??(I'll be waiting for this)
Oh yeah, one last thing, please elaberate on what you call "my type" and "your type",
for I wont be as naive as you are by taking a WILD guess and BELIEVING it!!(I'll be waiting for this too)
So tell me what makes you so special?
Are you the father of all knowledge??
Dont flatter yourself!!!
Friendly note for small boy: In my analasys I marked that you CANNOT SPELL THE WORD PEOPLE,
you spell people with a "ea" as in "pEAple".
Go learn yah spelling and fix yah signature an' EACH and EVERY thread that you have ever written, boy.
Octa Z
******
Is it just me or does this remind everyone of another IRC war?lol...chill ppl..incidentally,and WAY off topic,does AO have an irc server?
Peace:)
Dream on KID....kinda touching, "I"VE BEEN REBORN!"Quote:
But ever since I started getting my knowledge here, I changed, I became a true HACKER.
No I dont know how to break codes or secure networks or anything like that, but I am a HACKER because of my fundamentals.
We all are hackers, in fact, AO is the WHITE-HAT playground to me
I'm with thespecialist on this one....surprised this thread hasn't commited suicide
EDIT: /cry more n00b
AO is not a playing ground....its a place to learn, so sit down in your chair and pay attention to the front of the class.
Who's "we are all hackers"???? Are you calling me a hacker? I'm not a hacker, why would you assume that about me....very ignorant assumption too.
I'll tell ya some things about yourself that you didn't know...You're a n00b, a skiddie, who is dying for some attention...so you openly call yourself a hacker. You are a Lamer. If you knew anything at all about the hacking community, you'd know that "true" hackers do not give themselves the name, they earn it. Callin yourself a hacker in public is not looked upon very kindly, and only shows how ignorant you are. I bet you didn't know that about you...SIlly rabbit, trix are for kids.
Wow HANDzCLEANx seems to be like one of those people who have been 'healed' by god and are now preaching their new fanatical faith.
First of all without blackhats, whitehats would be nonexistant, why would there be need for them? And the fact that you've supposedly been homeschooled for 6 years and been moving around is a good motive to feel the need to prove youre the l33t3st hax0r out there on the face of this planet known as earth. I want to write more but ive gotta run.
By the way HANDzCLEANx, my 'analasis' on your spelling is that you cant spell 'analasis' so why are you 'analazing' peoples spelling?
none of u spelled it right...its "ANALYSIS, and ANALYZING" for christ's sake.
:)
Actually, a firewall really helps. You just have to make sure that all outgoing traffic is blocked, and nobody will know. That's usually the way I do it and so far it has worked quite well. Nobody has been able to trace me...
:ubergun:
Who set the flame bit to "1"?
Unless your an elite hacker you cant ever hide your tracks. Even being an elite hacker you can be caught but the elite hackers. My secrets are Virtual Private Networks, Pre-paid phone cards, canceled DSL and Cable dial-up accounts for starters.Quote:
Originally posted here by kidi_hacker
Hi every body
I use a proxy then i hid my web surfing. but am i anonymous in use of hacking tools such as vulnerablity scanners , ftp crackers, telnet crackers, and so on???
How can i hid my clue and ip when i hack ? help me please. :( :confused:
kidi_hacker
Trackit
The best way to keep yourself anonymous is to do some war driving, pick up on an unsecured AP an do your scanning from there. At least it will look like it's coming from someone else and not your IP or proxy address. The other thing about proxy that I found is that it does keep track of your mac address so you would need to spoof that as well. Also in most cases people have anti-spoofing turned on there border routers or firewalls which will enessence will drop your packets..
creating a clean netstumbler box is the current anonymous way for net access, back in the good-ol days, the rig was a little different. acoustic coupler, quarter tone modifyed dialer, payphone in the back room of a coffee shop, mall etc...
I see KorpDeath getting greened for all these one line posts that don't contribute at all. I'm not saying it's his fault he gets APs for these posts. And I'm not saying that I don't post one liners as well. I'm saying people should save their greens for someone who really contributes something related to security. And their neggies for trolls and skiddies like kidi_hacker :DQuote:
Opposed to common belief, trolls do serve a purpose. They are toilets of the community for everyone to deposit their red dots in.
mjk, I thought my comment on how this thread was heading was quite pertinent and helpful for all those people who are tired of seeing people get in personal quibbles over what amounts to a bunch of B.S.
Just remember winning an argument online is like winning at the special olympics...I mean, you're still retarded, right?
Anyway this thread wasn't about complaining about antipoints, so in essence my comment had more to do with the subject of the thread than your whining, didn't it?
No offense meant, just bringing up a pertinent point. And yes I did take the time to type out more than on line. :thumbsup:
I don't think anybody is in a position to be judging dude(mjk). It's just the internet relax have a good time! You know there will always be legions of little whining leprechauns!
KorpDeath,Quote:
Originally posted here by KorpDeath
mjk, I thought my comment on how this thread was heading was quite pertinent and helpful for all those people who are tired of seeing people get in personal quibbles over what amounts to a bunch of B.S.
Just remember winning an argument online is like winning at the special olympics...I mean, you're still retarded, right?
Anyway this thread wasn't about complaining about antipoints, so in essence my comment had more to do with the subject of the thread than your whining, didn't it?
No offense meant, just bringing up a pertinent point. And yes I did take the time to type out more than on line. :thumbsup:
My statements weren't directed at you... More at people in general who hand out greenies... I actually liked your post :)
Sorry about being such an ass :D
mjk
It would appear that kidi-hacker cannot stand the heat, and has left the kitchen.
Flame bit to zero please.
One post, some reds and s/he goes running.
What is the world coming to ?
Eee, when I was a lad...............
Me runs off to put me marshmallows back in the fridge. they're not going to get toasted here today..........
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Originally posted here by mjk
KorpDeath,
My statements weren't directed at you... More at people in general who hand out greenies... I actually liked your post :)
Sorry about being such an ass :D
mjk
I realize your remarks weren't directed at me, bro. No harm no foul, and you weren't being an ass, just voicing your disdain in the wrong forum/thread.
peace
Hey, will you quit shooting down my accomplishments.Quote:
Just remember winning an argument online is like winning at the special olympics.
As far as the whole "Hacker" thing goes.... I don't care if you consider yourself a "hacker", I don't care if you consider me a "hacker."
In the words of Popeye, I yam what I yam and that's all that I yam.
Titles and labels can't define people, we as individuals and as groups are far too abstract and varied for it to be possible to label us as anything more than human. Well, some of us are *******s, but we're a sub group of human. I am a hacker, and so is that little skiddie who started this... How is that possible? What possible commonallity do we share? What links us as hackers? THe fact that we use computers? The fact that we're more skilled than others? ****, by that logic, my mother is a hacker. I still fail to see any skill coming from this skid mark who started this. True skill is the ability, desire, and will to learn for yourself. Questions are good, but do the footwork, questions are for the details.
I don't know why I wrote this, I also am not sure exactly how much I've drank so far.
Hmmm.
Well, I'll lave y'all with one final thought:
Tomato's can help prevent prostate cancer, so have sex with the next tomato you see.
NO! D0pp139an93r,
Anyways, you seem to have the monopoly on all the good looking ones............rather............
"Drink more Bloody Marys"
:D
That's "lateral thinking".............after enough.........positively horizontal?
Kidi Hacker,
quoting you: "...am i anonymous in use of hacking tools such as vulnerablity scanners , ftp crackers, telnet crackers, and so on???"
Yes, you are very anonymous from most using only a proxy and I'll explain below.
quoting you again: "How can i hid my clue and ip when i hack ?"
You don't have to and here's why and the explanation I promised. Since you want to hack into somebody else's computer, you have your head up your ass and no one will venture up there to find you, therefore you are quite anonymous in that respect. Additionally if you are successful or break the law in any other way, since you have already manifiested your intent, you will have a new roommate who will teach you the finer arts of hacking using your back orfice as the object lesson and once again, while in jail, you will be anonymous to the outside world. So in your particular case, by all means use a proxy.
Heh, Back Orifice....
:rofl:
I don't know if it was intentional or not, but it was funny.
(Sorry, I'm a bit hungover...)
D0pp139an93r,
Yep it was, it will probably go right over his head though. However, when he goes to jail, his new roommate will teach him all about it...... :eek:
cheers
*sigh* It sure would be good to hear from kidi_hacker one of these days lol
This thread is still around? Hey look at me I have a bit of an inferiority complex. I am a retarded *******! Wow so it looks like I've made a name for myself now. This really "makes me into something" now you know what im saying. Whats one of the other words im looking for? Ummm.... special? Hell... im so stupid, moronic, ah crap im so special I could closely be compaired to God! Esspecially now that I own this special silver bottle cap after loseing the special duh'lympics. Now that I've started a word to call myself and stuff im here to share it VIA: the web so I can watch other losers fallow behind in the hopes of being appart of something or being called something. This is all to fuel my own entertainment and self indulgence.Quote:
Originally posted here by D0pp139an93r
In the words of Popeye, I yam what I yam and that's all that I yam.
Titles and labels can't define people, we as individuals and as groups are far too abstract and varied for it to be possible to label us as anything more than human. Well, some of us are *******s, but we're a sub group of human. I am a hacker, and so is that little skiddie who started this... How is that possible? What possible commonallity do we share? What links us as hackers? THe fact that we use computers? The fact that we're more skilled than others? ****, by that logic, my mother is a hacker. I still fail to see any skill coming from this skid mark who started this. True skill is the ability, desire, and will to learn for yourself. Questions are good, but do the footwork, questions are for the details.
Cause I am a poke'mon master(baitor)!
Im screUber l33t!
I'm the retardest kid ever and your not so :p to you, bud.
PAY YOUR RESPECT MAN OR KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Hell... im so stupid, moronic, ah crap im so special I could closely be compaired to God!
You seem to have a lot of HATE in your soul, you keep fighting with anyone who doesn't harmonise with you.I cant conceive that you are aged 19.You sound like a 4 yr old infantile.
You need to get layed or puff a BIG FAT JOINT to open your dolt mind,and to see what the world really is: A place where "KNOWLEDGE IS POWER" and "POWER IS MONEY" and "MONEY IS HAPPINESS" ,thus logically, KNOWLEDGE IS HAPPINESS. Doesn't matter WHO you are or WHAT you want, IT WILL ALWAYS START WITH KNOWLEDGE.
theSpecialist, think back. When you wanted to turn on the PC for the first time in your life, did you know how by INSTINCT????????
Or do still not know how to turn on the PC, and every time you want it on you call yah MUMMY or DADDY???
NO DUDE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE!!!!
Someone might have told you(knowledge attained), or you might have seen, and learned, from someone(knowledge attained).
Your(theSpecialist) problem is that you have a ABILITY/POWER/CONTROL struggle, you seem to be wanting it all for yourself(even your nick hints this fact)!!!!
Stop whatever you are doing, get down to the 1st dealer you see, buy some WEED, let your eyes be extended and envision what a power-covetous mortal you really are.......
H2Z
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:)
Magtag, ons het lekker ganja 'n Natal. Yebo!
*thinks about getting a poll entitled "How long do you think HANDzCLEANx will stay on the forum with his oh-I've-now-seen-the-light-type attitude"*