AO Addict Status

Greet's Mod's and Admin's of AO. I was wondering (and this post might not be friendly with the newbie's/jr member's) about the post level of the AntiOnline Addict's earlier. If you look at the site, almost 80% of the site is comprised of Addict's/Senior's because the post barrier (275) is so low. I think it should be raised a little, especially being it is the last (and really only) post related thing on the website. For instance, with people having 1,500+ post's a regular here, the AO Addict post minimum should be raised. I mean you have so many people with WAAAAYYY over 275 (even 400 for that matter) but after you get the 275 then that's it. The only site benefit that's post related was just accomplished (and quite easily). So yeah, I'ma stop rambling and hear what the mod's/etc think.

Why does it really matter? Post count means nothing. I've never liked the idea of a forum that you have to post a lot to get into. I'm here primarily to read and learn, occasionally posting where I can help someone or share my opinion. So why is it that I'm forced to post if I want to read some good security discussions?

You want the requirement to be raised... Is there something that goes on in the Addicts forum that you don't want us young members to know about? Free pr0n?

Anyways, if the number was raised, we'd probably have a lot more post pumping coming from newbs who want to get into that forum and spam it to death.

PLEASE don't raise it I MUST get in there ASAP! It's my goal in life! :p (just kidding)

mjk

The Addicts forum is just a General Chit Chat forum really and sometimes if somebody has a really difficult problem they will post it there. Terr wanted it to be an invite only forum origanally which is now a possibility, throw all of us out of addicts and get people posting again in order to get invited for being a good member or something.

I have to admit I agree with mjk on this score - it's only going to lead to even more post whorage etc. Addicts is only like a reward for sticking around and not being a complete pain in the ass. Its a place where we can (but rarely) talk about stuff you wouldn't want the skiddiots on the boards to be in on. Unfortunately that also means some of the 'junior' (interms of postage) members don't get to add their (sometimes valuable) input but hey you've got to have some kind of 'selection process'.

mjk - trust me not a lot goes on in addicts - certainly not free pr0n :(

I understand where your coming from but sticking around at 275 post's mean's nothing when we have member's in the 3,000's. And I agree, the site is for learning about security and whatnot, I'm just saying.

Addicts is no different from general chat really. The post count is sufficiently high to keep out idiots who just sign up and post crap to annoy people, but low enough so that it is open to everyone who has been here a while without needing to become a post whore.

I want to add to Spyder32 post in a different sence. Their too much people with 400 post now. They should be more level after 400 post! The suggestion was allready made to combine post/ap to make a title but it was difficult to code. :(

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Originally posted here by pwaring
Addicts is no different from general chat really. The post count is sufficiently high to keep out idiots who just sign up and post crap to annoy people, but low enough so that it is open to everyone who has been here a while without needing to become a post whore.

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Heh, yeah. You make a pretty good point pwaring. ;)

We've been discussing an extra site benefit that would be based on post count a while ago, and here are some figures:

- Users with 3000+ posts: 4
- Users with 2000-3000 posts: 6
- Users with 1500-2000 posts: 8
- Users with 1000-1500 posts: 20
- Users with 500 - 1000 posts: 85
- Users with 275 - 500 posts: 110

That means there are currently 233 users with Addict+ status.
On a total of 55,000 more or less active users, that's only 2.4%.
But if you compare it to users with 50+ posts (there's only 825 of those), that's 27%.

Yeah but Neg, how do you figure 55,000 active member's?? I mean your above figure's are correct, but I highly doubt we have 55,000 active member's. And I'm basing it on the fact that actively there are more Senior's/Addict's than newbie's and whatnot. But oh well, doesn't matter. Pwaring's post made sense, so it doesn't matter. Another site benefit would be cool though, what was in mind Negative?

That's why I said "more or less" active users ;)
There are a little over 55,000 users in the database, but there are a bunch of users with 0 posts, users that haven't posted in months (or even years), etc etc...
I'd say you're almost right...heh: I'm pretty sure there still are more active non-addict members than there are addicts.

It's all a matter of time, IMO... you could raise the Addicts-level to 500 posts, and in a couple of years (if not months), you'd have to raise it again. Eventually, every active poster on this board will become an Addict. And judging by all the "Yeah, I'm an Addict now!" posts, it's still something to look forward to...

Once you have Senior Status (400 posts) and 11 green dots, it's basically all over... LOL.
Unless you're aiming for the top-10 poster / top-10 AntiPoint list, of course... and that's an ever-changing list.
I guess what I mean is this: you could keep on raising all the requirements for the member levels (Junior, Senior,..), but what's the point?

The extra site benefit had something to do with "custom", "user" and "titles", btw.

LOL, I see your point Neg. Sorry for the suggestion, just a thought.

I feel bad! With my 925 post, I'm probably in the top 100 of the poster here! I feel like post whore now...

SDK, if you go to User Memberlist and click Top25 Poster's you'll see. From each page on, is another 25 so by page four, your already a Top 100 poster. I think your on page two ;)

hell yeah! I'm the top 50 of the post whore! I'm 43 to be exact! I can believe MsMittens is allmost to 4K, she was at 3K like 3-4 months ago?

Edit : I just noticed that I'm in top 300 oldest member in AO and only pwaring and avdven are older me and have more post that me...

That mean I'm a freaking old post whore that nobody want to touch!

There aren't many members who have been around longer than me who still post. hogfly and avdven are the ones who spring to mind, plus JP obviously and a few others.

/me suddenly feels very old :(

I joined a whole 4 days later than you did... heh.

And I thought I was old. Sheesh.. I'm a child compared to you guy's ;)

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hogfly and avdven are the ones who spring to mind, plus JP obviously and a few others.

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I haven't seen hog and avdven post in a loooong time. Hog's not even on IRC lately.

Cheers,
cgkanchi

Hmm, could be a nice idea, but the fact that nothing is stopping people from posting the classic AOL kid way of replying to everything with "Me too!" I don't think raising the post count would do much. I'm kind of with the invite only idea. I don't really care if I was invited back, because if someone doesn't want me in there than I probably shouldn't be there in the first place right?

I would really like it if only security posts counted for posts. Now that would be nice! They do it for the Usenet stuff, how about the rest of the site besides what's on the front page? Again, I'm more than willing to sacrifice my post count for this idea.

As an example, this post I'm making here should not count for my post count. I'm not helping anyone, and I'm not trying to help anyone secure anything, why count it? I havn't earned it.

Raising the post level for the Addicts forum would only increase nonsense posts by postwhores who will get into Addicts no matter what. The post level for Addicts won't be raised :D
The "next" site benefit is still being worked on...

Hmmmmmmmmm,

I have been drinking (again) so here goes.........

How about dividing the antipoints by the number of posts?.........that should "out" the post whores, but more importantly the time wasters? OK I know that there are people who have points from when the rules were different, but that does not include that many people?

My rough rule of thumb is that you should have over one (modern) antipoint per post........OK I know that people get attacked and such, but I would suggest it as an ambition?

And maybe no more than 10% of posts in technical humour and 10% in cosmos? and the "nonsense threads" in GCC

General chit chat is difficult because a lot of hardware/software/virus/adware issues get raised there? but the nonsense thread is open to abuse?

So, how many members have we with a post count of over 500 who do not have a ratio of at least 1 post to antipoint.

Maybe it is about quality, not quantity? Yes, I realise that asking a question is not going to get you points, but how many individuals have asked over 100 questions?

What I am trying to say is that there are more dimensions here than meets the eye?

:drink:

Anyone that can get to 275 posts w/o being banned should have the right to post in the addict forum. It's not like golden information get passed around in there anyway.

I wanna take this time to thank Negative for answering the recent Site Suggestion's (including this one, thankfully) and for paying attention to this forum. He coulda just said **** it and not answered our request's. :D

Slightly off topic here,but why doesnt AO boot off the users who havent posted and've registered three years ago?I was browsing the users list,the list of users who havent posted at all's pretty long..keep an expiry date like say six months or so?