Back With A Vengance

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May 24th, 2004, 04:43 PM
adiz

Back With A Vengance

Hello All Once Again,

I know you will not remember me, but I was posting here very often about 6 -7 mo. ago. However, I decided to take a break off of "real computing" and started to focus more on 3D animation and graphics. However I just recently purchased a book called "Hackers Tales: Stories From the Electronic Frontline" (written by Dr. K). This book turned my interest back the internet and network security. I am still extremely new to the security area but I am trying. I have just purchased another book called; "The Unofficial Guide to Ethical Hacking (Written by Ankit Fadia)." I am amazed at the wealth of information out there and the how much there still is to learn. I have been visiting alot of other forums and chats on the web and for some reason I always come back to Anti-Online. I want to congratulate all of you on making this a wonderful place to learn about security. I will once again begin posting on here but more so I will be doing alot of reading, reading and more reading.

I want to take this time to reiterate and thank all the knowledgable people here to guide us newbies as opposed to flaming us.

Thanks,

Adiz
May 24th, 2004, 04:57 PM
MemorY

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"The Unofficial Guide to Ethical Hacking (Written by Ankit Fadia)

First Advice here: Throw the book away ! search google why, there is thread about it here, i cant find it now....
May 24th, 2004, 05:00 PM
phishphreek

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"Hackers Tales: Stories From the Electronic Frontline" (written by Dr. K).

I'm reading that too. Actually I'm almost done with it. Its not too bad... seeing that its just a bunch of stories. Its different... thats about all I can say about it.

Most of the stories are from s.kiddies or former s.kiddies... so it gives you a better glimpse into their world...
May 24th, 2004, 05:02 PM
adiz

Memory you are right, I am sure the stuff I am reading is already outdated, and I realize that. However, these two books have created a thirst for knowledge and I have already started searching information on the internet. I do like these books because I like learning the history of the subject and then I can more easily understand the present and future. But yes, Memory I already have started working on my own information and slowly compiling my own arsenal of tools.

Adiz
May 24th, 2004, 05:03 PM
D0pp139an93r

Ummm, security books written by Ankit Fadia are like Windows manuals written by Linus Torvalds.
May 24th, 2004, 05:06 PM
adiz

phish - Dr. K is a horrible writer in my opinion but he has alot of cool stories and that is about it. I just sorta wanted to start learning from the ground up. He kinda repeats himself alot so it is sorta annoying but I liked it.

Adiz
May 24th, 2004, 06:12 PM
phishphreek

adiz: Those stories are not Dr. K's stories. They are stories submitted by so called "hackers".

Its not Dr. K's writing that you don't like... it's all the s.kiddies.

Dr. K only compiled a book of "hacker" tales...
May 24th, 2004, 06:27 PM
adiz

Oh my bad then. I knew that they weren't his stories but I thought he rewrote them. So yeah, I guess I retract my statement.

- Adiz
May 24th, 2004, 06:56 PM
Spyder32

Hate to sound like a dick, but can I ask why the "Back With A Vengeance" thing?
May 24th, 2004, 08:26 PM
Ennis

I think I remember you Adiz, welcome back man.
May 24th, 2004, 10:23 PM
TheSpecialist

"Hackers Tales: Stories From the Electronic Frontline"

Actually I remember about a year or so ago some guy was spaming and asking for stories here for that book. Might be the same guy... but anyways as lame as some of the stories are mostly he did not write the majority of them. As the same with 90% of that dang l33t h4x0r bullcrap hiting bookshelves. In my eyes none of them are really any good. What is really bad is haveing one bad author co-write for another one example would be that happy hacker lady and Anitka or whatever his name is...

And lets be honest here... even hacking exposed is just a introduction to thier other books. Their stuff on linux and web apps are way better... even then its still not going to shape you into anything. The book can explain what a attack is, how & why it can be done, even give tools to do them... You could talk about buffer overflows a million times... they'll tell you about them and tell you where to find old exploits. But god forgive if they go as far as telling peaple that they need some knowledge of some HLL and the possable few weeks or even a year or two getting used to MASM or TASM to actually find their own stuff. Or tell you about how once you do actually find anything someone else already has already seen the same in a matter of minutes before you did then guess what... whatever you found becomes out-dated.

http://www.antionline.com/showthread...t=hacker+tales
May 24th, 2004, 10:48 PM
adiz

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Actually I remember about a year or so ago some guy was spaming and asking for stories here for that book. Might be the same guy

Nope wasn't me sorry. I haven't even been here for a year (08-18-2003 was my register date). Plus I didn't even hear about the book until I a few days ago. I titled this thread "Back With a Vengeance" because I have a new desire to learn about technology and the security side of things. I am not sure if anyone here has experienced a burnout (or whatever you would like to call it) but that is sorta what I went through.
School Finals and lots of rough weekends (chug chug) worked on me and I slightly lost interest.

So that is the answer to most of the questions. Sorry if I came off as a lamer or whatever I am not trying to say I am anything or something at all. I was just saying I really appreciate the help and the information I have attained from the knowledge here.

Thanks,

- Adiz
May 24th, 2004, 11:14 PM
TheSpecialist

Wasn't talking about you specificly. More like the Author of that book, man.
May 24th, 2004, 11:34 PM
D0pp139an93r

Damn, I remember that... That dude was spammin everything for stories.
May 25th, 2004, 12:17 AM
Soda_Popinsky

The Thread: http://www.antionline.com/showthread...830#post656107

The Post: http://www.antionline.com/showthread...269#post747269

We don't like him because he cut and pasted AO.

http://www.rediff.com/search/2002/apr/18ankit.htm

Check this out.

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So far, what has the feedback been like?
I get about 100 emails a day in my inbox. Some have questions; others compliment me after having bought a copy of my book. But the best one that I received lately was of a consultant who told me how he is completely fascinated with my book. He spent three hours flipping through it before he bought it and it's completely unputdownable for him. In fact, he mentions how it has been affecting his job and deadlines because he is so enamoured by my experiments in the world of hacking.

What a ego :D

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The users on antionline.com, a security Web site, ranked his security site second in the world. He was also invited by the US Federal Bureau of Investigation to lecture its agents at a convention in Florida last year, which was called off at the last minute due to the September 11 attacks.

True? :eek:
May 25th, 2004, 03:09 AM
D0pp139an93r

I sure as hell didn't vote for it...

I doubt very many of the seniors would.
May 26th, 2004, 05:46 PM
adiz

We all gotta start somewhere!

- Adiz