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I think that a user should have to post a reply in a thread, before he or she can assign AP's to a post in that certian thread. It would help to control alot of the AP stuff that is going around, and could programmed making use of the vBulletin sessions, I'm sure. Plus, it would help to uncoer AP alliences (If they still exist) and rid of that problem as well. I think overall, it would just help out in controling APs, which now seem out of control.
Peace.
MB
Although i think its a good idea to be forced to post before you can assign antipoints, i dont think it works out logically... when a person reads a thread, they read it post by post and when they find the need to give points, they can do it there... with your idea, theyd have to go post, and then have to come back, find the post, and assign the points, which would be sort of a bitch of a problem if the thread was long... and that would also lead to a massive amounts of single line replies, like, "just posting to give points" and etc...
good idea though, but those little details suck =)
dave
After you post, you're takin back to the thread. Stop making it out to be more work than it is. If the person really deserves the AP's, they'll do it. There's probably a way to block lines like that, or users would probably just ban people that posted like that off the site.
Hey Hey,
Danny Boy is a good friend of mine but I'm gonna have to completely disagree with him on this one. I think it's a horrid idea. While the principal may be good "You have to contribute in order to evalute a post as good or bad"... the practice would be horrid. We get someone spamming the boards and want to neg them so they're banned (one of the main purposes)... Then we're going to have to sit and repsond to their spam before we can neg them? That's not good at all. Also someone posts a link or a good program that we think deserves rewarding... we have to post and say "Good Link" or "Nice program" before we can assign them greenies? What about in discussions when someone posts valueable information. "Good Post" comments usually get attacked right now... we're going to have to start allowing them and accepting them as the "norm". Good threads are going to be cluttered with useless posts because people want to give someone APs (be they good or bad) but have to say something first... Threads may be bumped to the top of the list while no new or intersted information is added because someone wanted to say "Good Job".... It's ridiculous.... It's going to do nothing but clutter up valuable posts... every thread will be come the Non-sensical thread (or whatever the hell that garbage is called).... Post counts will soar because people who neg or greenie 4 or 5 people a day will have to make 4 or 5 additional posts... even though they have nothing of value to contribute.
I like ya MB, but this is one of the worst suggestions I've heard/seen yet.
Peace,
HT
I understand.
There's got to be some way to regulate the flow of APs though, because there is an awful lot of bad ones going around. When I think of a better idea, I'll let everyone know. :P
But think of it this way, say you fell behind a few pages on the nonsensical thread or something like that... and you want to give greens to a couple replies somewhere on those pages, imagine how tideous it would be... and don't get me wrong, i fully support the idea, it would guarnttee that ppl fully read threads and what not before bombing ppl with points... maybe the ppl here can make that u assign points but if u dont post to the thread within like 10 mins, they never appear to the person u gave them to.
I completly agree with you, because some people give out negs and don't give reasons to why they gave out the neg leaving the user clueless to why you gave out that negative point (Even though you have to comment some people don't leave constructive comments). Although this system wouldn't stop any AP Alliances because they could simply post something completly off topic or irrelevent to whatever they are posting and give out an AP so it doesn't completly stop them but users and moderaters will notice the posting sooner or later and get suspicious. I also think they should monitor all APs (the moderators) this way they can see who's in an AP alliance and etc.
If you've already posted in that thread. (Which I assumed from the "fall behind" part) then you would already be able to assign APs. I don't believe APs should be able to be assigned for the non-sencial thread anyways. I can't believe that **** is still going on.Quote:
But think of it this way, say you fell behind a few pages on the nonsensical thread or something like that... and you want to give greens to a couple replies somewhere on those pages, imagine how tideous it would be... and don't get me wrong, i fully support the idea, it would guarnttee that ppl fully read threads and what not before bombing ppl with points... maybe the ppl here can make that u assign points but if u dont post to the thread within like 10 mins, they never appear to the person u gave them to.
I think they should force people to put in a valid comment, because if they don't have a reason for giving you APs, you don't deserve them.Quote:
I completly agree with you, because some people give out negs and don't give reasons to why they gave out the neg leaving the user clueless to why you gave out that negative point (Even though you have to comment some people don't leave constructive comments). Although this system wouldn't stop any AP Alliances because they could simply post something completly off topic or irrelevent to whatever they are posting and give out an AP so it doesn't completly stop them but users and moderaters will notice the posting sooner or later and get suspicious. I also think they should monitor all APs (the moderators) this way they can see who's in an AP alliance and etc.
MB
Hey Hey,
The AP system has flaws, we're all aware of this.. but we also all know it does the trick and most people are kept happy.. To me this thread is another example of whining.. maybe not from MB but from the replies... so someone neg's you and you didn't deserve it.. big deal. live with it, move on. yada yada yada.... The truth is that implementing an idea like this would serve no useful purpose and benefit no one other than the spammers and trouble makers and maybe a few of the AP whiners.... The system may be flawed but it does work.... this implementation would do nothing but cause problems.
Peace,
HT
I think it's an idea that shouldn't be implemented based on two main reason's: AP Alliances don't exist anymore (atleast I don't think so, and atleast the problem has quivered). The second reason being it would cause too many problems and would encourage b/s posts just to assign posts in a thread.
You're completly wrong HTRegz I have no reason to complain/whine
But if I were to get negged more often I would like to know why you negged me so it doesn't happen again and I think most newbies would also like to know why they are being negged..Quote:
Total AntiPoints That You've Received: 415
96% Positive 4% Negative
Raion that's the idea of why you can add a comment to your AntiPoint assignment. It's to alert the user why your assigning what your assigning and what it was merited for in the post.
I know but some people neg just to 'balance' out and don't put valid reasons for their AP
I balance out on post's that deserve neg's. That (and only that) should be where you balance out.
I know but not all newbies see it that way
Sure... all we'd need is 100 more moderators. The number of AntiPoint-assignments given out each and every day is massive :)Quote:
Originally posted by Raion
I also think they should monitor all APs (the moderators) this way they can see who's in an AP alliance and etc.
Moderators don't have any control over AntiPoints, btw. We can't see who assigns what to whom, we can't take away/give extra antipoints,... and I'd like to keep it that way.
Bah! We all know you'd like the extra power Neg ;)
hmmmm....maybe a "top ten AP Assigners" that looks at total (number of) assignments over previous 7 day period and generates list from there. If one stays on the list for "x" days in a row, then the system could "water down" their point giving ability until they are off the list.
Just a thought....
Negative: Noone ever said you have to read what they comment instead just skim through it...
I like this idea, that way those that are curious or have suspicions against someone, will be able to see that the person in question is giving out a huge amount of AP's.Quote:
hmmmm....maybe a "top ten AP Assigners" that looks at total (number of) assignments over previous 7 day period and generates list from there. If one stays on the list for "x" days in a row, then the system could "water down" their point giving ability until they are off the list.
Just a thought....
Especially if they are constantly on this list.
And if they are still thinking that someting suss is going on then they can contact an Admin or a Moderator who then could contact some one in a higher position to check it out..
But i don't agree with that, then there'd be people that are on that list that would start complaining that there AP assignments aren't having an effect anymore, wether it's greenies or red ones that there asigning.Quote:
then the system could "water down" their point giving ability until they are off the list.
Unfortunatly the AP system is one of those things that carn't make everyone happy.
And the only real solution is that maybe it get's taken offline and they come up with some sort of ranking system..
cheers
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