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Hello ,
Can a program run in windows environment without been displayed by the task manager / program manager or whatever...(I mean it isn't displayed with Ctrl.Alt.Del).
If so, how does the programer accomplish this ?? .. Any tips on the logic ??
-XN
I love the way we answer questions. If people have a legit request, we give them loads of links and information. If they are slightly more shady, we say things like "Google is your friend" and "There are posts like this all over AO". If the "d00d" is obviously here for the wrong reason, we flame the hell out of him.Quote:
Originally posted here by TheSpecialist
Without that little tidbit of info there won't be much to offer you except comments like API is your pal and so are sites that offer code for you to paste, plagerize, cut, or what have you.
A true democracy. Cybracracy. Whatever. :D
Malware ?? .. No..Quote:
Originally posted here by TheSpecialist
Clearly for malware... if not I would enjoy laughing at hearing the entertaining sack-o-crap you have to offer. What purposes would this serve other than the obvious?
Malware coders and 'anti-malware' coders both have the same knowledge in the subject... But its just a change of ethics ... I believe so...
Now, I'm not gonna code an anti-malware though.. Just curious of the technology used...
I use C++..
I'd be satisfied with the logic though, if u don't wanna give me the code..
Thank u.
XN
but if you do that then everyone comes down on you for being to rough. negs the **** out of you the give greenines to the dope that post shady s#%T
That's because the shady crap usually ends up in a long, somewhat intelligent thread...usually...sometimes...at times...Quote:
Originally posted here by PoSer
but if you do that then everyone comes down on you for being to rough. negs the **** out of you the give greenines to the dope that post shady s#%T
Anyway - it either ends up in intelligent discussion or contoversy, which people like. Points are awarded (either good or bad), the question is answered (vaguely or not) and we move on. Somewhat the same every time. Great to watch.
Anyways BACK TO THE TOPIC...
There is no way to prevent the process being displayed in the Processes tab in Windows Task Manager... But you can hide it from the Applications tab by registering the process as a Windows service.. This can be done with the RegisterServiceProcess API call.
You never said what language you're programming in... But if you want source code on how to do this a good starting point is Planet Source Code
mjk
edit Oops didn't see that you said you're using C++... In that case you'd include <windows.h> (I believe). Then call RegisterServiceProcess.
Thanx mjk.
Application Tab ??.. What exactly is that .... I think I'm being 2 foolish .. :(
In XP, you do the three-fingered salute, then click Task Manager. The default tab that is open is the Application Tab. It shows the names of the programs that are running....exactly what you asked for, neh?
embro, perhaps some of us have been dealing with such issues long enough to suspect something shady ;). 2 posts by you in the same thread, yet no resolution to his question. Poser, try to add something more important to the thread next time please.
Nikon, look up information on spyprograms. They use stealth technology, which can allow them to be installed completely in stealth mode. They will not show up on the task menu, there will not even be a startup folder for them. Find out how its done...do some reading and you'll get the idea. Of course changing the name of the running process to something similiar to a windows process, is also a nice way of "camouflaging a pgrogram. That gets more into the malware side of the issue so we'll leave it at that.
GL.
Check a spy-program called IOPUS STARR.
www.iopus.com
vb 6.0
just type on the load app.taskvisible=false
will not display in application
not to display in processes ...ummmmmm. thinking of it, even system progs are displayed, so till now i think there is no way
maybe u can make an event at the key press that will do something to stop the keys from being pressed , like on ctrl + alt do an event but i think not something obvious in order not to make the prog detectable
will tell u if had new idea
maybe the solution is stupid, not a big code
think like that
while your supposed to be able to see everything under the processes tab in xp, i remember reading an artical a few days ago that says otherwise. apparently there is a vulnerability that allows programs to hide itself from xp altogether, but was never able to find any *solid* information on it or even if it does indeed exist. just thought i'd throw that out there, anything is possible.
i agree to jackal. its about keyloggers, that can be able to hidden themselves including on the process tab (as the documentation said so). However, i didnt isntall it to assure that its is hidden on process tab